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gizmoduck
post Jul 8 2010, 11:49 AM

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I'm getting my phd so that I can patronize people. Especially my own children.
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post Jul 9 2010, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(gizmoduck @ Jul 8 2010, 11:49 AM)
I'm getting my phd so that I can patronize people. Especially my own children.
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haha this is a valid reason biggrin.gif
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post Jul 9 2010, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(zyndex @ Jul 9 2010, 03:00 PM)
U can study abroad.
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and your reason for that is ?
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post Jul 9 2010, 08:38 PM

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Reason of me wanting to get a PhD cause I'm majoring in Psychology, want to go deep into child development, for the sake of my future kids or better environment in related field. Still stuck in degree now. sad.gif
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post Jul 10 2010, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(Psychology @ Jun 26 2010, 12:57 AM)
If you consider the main Pros and Cons, the reason you're going PHD is either for the fame, Dr. or the knowledge. Doing a couple years of study to increase my salary doesn't seem to outweigh working for a few years and becoming a CEO. For me at least.
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Work a few years can become CEO already? tongue.gif
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post Jul 10 2010, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jul 9 2010, 08:38 PM)
Reason of me wanting to get a PhD cause I'm majoring in Psychology, want to go deep into child development, for the sake of my future kids or better environment in related field. Still stuck in degree now. sad.gif
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this sounds a bit like education essential inquiry , but allow me to ask , what are the job prospects for psychology graduates ?
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post Jul 10 2010, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(ComposMentis @ Jul 10 2010, 09:36 AM)
this sounds a bit like education essential inquiry , but allow me to ask , what are the job prospects for psychology graduates ?
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Mostly professionals like psychiatrist, researcher on particular stuff, head hunter in bank, etc. I don't know why people are doubting the job opportunity for psychology graduates. Just think this way.. Our community is getting bigger and bigger, means higher chances of people getting depression or some other psychological illness. So why are you worrying about your future jobs?

p.s: psychologist is the most needed profession in Malaysia, said by my professor during my times in HELP (2005). Yeah five years ago but the number still never increase cause most of the fresh graduates went overseas.
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post Jul 10 2010, 11:32 AM

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post Jul 10 2010, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jul 10 2010, 10:58 AM)
Mostly professionals like psychiatrist, researcher on particular stuff, head hunter in bank, etc. I don't know why people are doubting the job opportunity for psychology graduates. Just think this way.. Our community is getting bigger and bigger, means higher chances of people getting depression or some other psychological illness. So why are you worrying about your future jobs?

p.s: psychologist is the most needed profession in Malaysia, said by my professor during my times in HELP (2005). Yeah five years ago but the number still never increase cause most of the fresh graduates went overseas.
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no I am not a psychology graduate , just curious about the job prospects smile.gif
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post Jul 19 2010, 12:36 AM

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Guys, I'm thinking of pursuing a Masters Degree in Economics or MBA, any of you know of any good scholarship out there ? Btw, I'm thinking of enrolling at LSE.

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post Jul 19 2010, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(nabelon @ Jul 19 2010, 12:36 AM)
Guys, I'm thinking of pursuing a Masters Degree in Economics or MBA, any of you know of any good scholarship out there ? Btw, I'm thinking of enrolling at LSE.
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try to ask this on education essentials or this thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1447870

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post Jul 22 2010, 11:24 AM

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want to get better salary so every month i can buy new ps3 games also with g27 logitech steering wheel to play with Gran Turismo 5!!

but the pain and suffering i bear right now is very heavy. sometimes do feel regret to continue study due to lower allowance. most of my friends are already have their own house, car and family. but i still in the studying phase.

sigh~ but i know if can finish my study, the future will be brighter for me...
to have a constant n high motivation in study is very important!


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post Aug 9 2010, 04:45 AM

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QUOTE(happy_pink @ Jun 4 2010, 09:21 PM)
me is biotech
so phd can be in wat field?
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QUOTE(happy_pink @ Jun 5 2010, 06:49 PM)
ok first of all
i choose biotech because i like genetics, research.
but in malaysia this field is not very developed
so will be difficult to get job and go for far
and i searched internet
in usa, almost 40% of biotechnologists are phd holders
it means u cant go very far with your degree 
u really need to be expert on the field u going to research
i cant deny that i got a bit regret choosing biotech because of the job prospects in malaysia
but in term of course, things that i going to be study, i really like it
plus i love teaching
so my aim is to become a lecturer
so that i can research and teach
and most ipta and ipts in malaysia require the lecturers to have phd
actually does malaysia lack of bio or che phd?
can give some advice ?
thanks
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Hi happy_pink,
I'm a biotech graduate and now doing master in medical science, majoring in medical microbiology, where my research title is to screen, identify and produce a bacteria protein.
I would advice you to aim for overseas study for your future.
Personally I want to further phd is because I really want to be expert in the field of my study, as well as self achievement. I never think of becoming a lecturer, but I do think of taking as a full time researcher as my career. If there is no vacancy in local, I will go to overseas.
A bio phd? well, is depends on which particular field. I plan to do synthetic biology in my future.


QUOTE(highwind85 @ Jun 6 2010, 10:29 PM)
I worked as RA at UKM for 1.5 years before i went to ANU for my PhD...Originally decided to do my PhD in UKM..but half way thru, i decided to give it a shot to apply overseas...
I have a biochemistry BSc..Now doing PhD in protein engineering and crystallography..
To be frank, career for a PhD holder will only stabilize in your 30s...if you decide to go for it, you'll have to brace yourself for that..PhD is not for the faint of heart..
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wow highwind85, i do think of crystallizing my new found protein. is it possible i sent to you for x-ray diffraction? This is because I can't find people in Msia doing this. Nice to meet a structural biologist here. happy.gif

QUOTE(highwind85 @ Jun 8 2010, 02:29 PM)
RM2.5k is high..but bear in mind not all pay that well for PhD candidates..

NSF pays rm2.3k, USM fellowship around Rm2.1k with yearly increment, and UKM rm1.6k if BSc qualification or rm1.8k MSc qualification (subject to Supervisor's research grant)..

And not all universities require the findings to be published..but it is very encouraged that PhD students publish their findings as this will boost your CV..
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well.. I already got 1 paper done and to be submitted, 2 papers writing up... but damn, i'm still doing my master... ==''

QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jul 9 2010, 08:38 PM)
Reason of me wanting to get a PhD cause I'm majoring in Psychology, want to go deep into child development, for the sake of my future kids or better environment in related field. Still stuck in degree now. sad.gif
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I thought a "cane" will be always the best tool?
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post Aug 26 2010, 08:39 PM

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how abt DBA ?
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post Aug 26 2010, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ May 18 2010, 09:51 AM)
If anyone here has a PhD, can you share with us what made you decide to get a PhD?

Was it because

- better salary
- prestige
- job promotion
- genuine academic interest
- you didn't know what to do with life & you had a sponsor
- your father told you to

I did ask a couple of PhD's in real life. One said prestige, the other said better salary... which she now regrets becoz a lecturer's salary really sucks.

Does anyone really go for a PhD because they were truly interested in the knowledge?
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I am starting my PhD next year and I can't be bothered to go through the rest of the posts due to my slow connection, so I'll just go ahead and type
(I have done lots of research and asking my PhD friends prior to taking this step)

1. brows.gif DO NOT DO A PHD THINKING OF THE EXTRA MONEY, except if you are already working as a lab assistant/helper in the academic line and wish to further your career within it (you can probably have a better shot at funding, being an insider). You will earn more money working those 3-5 years and end up in a better salary position at the end of it.

2. cool2.gif "Prestige" is a side benefit - do not go in solely because of that - a PhD is a long and costly road with many nights of hardship - not worth doing it just for that - in the end you are just another scientist

3. rclxub.gif you didn't know what to do with life & you had a sponsor - I suspect quite a number of PhD students do this - however, a lot of them also dropped out precisely because they started their PhD for this reason

4. doh.gif your father told you to - ... not sure what to say to this

5. thumbup.gif These are the best reasons for doing a PhD
(i) Wanting to discover something that benefits the world
(ii) (Really) Want a job in the academic line
(iii) Strong interest in your subject + hate having a boss hovering you all the time + hate routine/bodoh-type jobs

In short, a PhD is like a job in research, except you don't get paid in money, your "salary" is the experience, the results of your PhD research project (which may potentially change the world, gain you *ahem* your supervisor *ahem* fame) and of course, your doctorate degree and you can have everyone call you "Dr."

That is all folks whistling.gif
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post Aug 28 2010, 06:29 AM

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it would be nice to be a able to go back uni and bum around and lepak and stuff.....yeah, i'd do it for that.
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post Aug 30 2010, 03:43 AM

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why why why...... pursue of knowledge is only available for the rich! degree programs 70k master programs 100k phd i dono how much...... looks like i won't be having any sort of title or the ability to post articles and make intricate research into fields i truly interested just because i only f***ed up once in SPM.... sigh.. despair...
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post Aug 30 2010, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(maxsia @ Aug 30 2010, 03:43 AM)
why why why...... pursue of knowledge is only available for the rich!
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Not if you get a scholarship/sponsorship. And a part time job while you're doing it.
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post Dec 13 2010, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Aug 28 2010, 06:29 AM)
it would be nice to be a able to go back uni and bum around and lepak and stuff.....yeah, i'd do it for that.
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Haha, trust me, when you come back and get into graduate school, there is no time for you to lepak at all. You don't even have time for dating.
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post Dec 15 2010, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Beastboy @ May 18 2010, 09:51 AM)
If anyone here has a PhD, can you share with us what made you decide to get a PhD?

Was it because

- better salary
- prestige
- job promotion
- genuine academic interest
- you didn't know what to do with life & you had a sponsor
- your father told you to

I did ask a couple of PhD's in real life. One said prestige, the other said better salary... which she now regrets becoz a lecturer's salary really sucks.

Does anyone really go for a PhD because they were truly interested in the knowledge?
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Better prospect for promotion. That was the initial reason.

Going through a phd, u get to learn how to do research in a proper and 'acceptable' manner. That is the most important benefit, but only if you work in research/academic. If not, work experience is more important than phd in most kind of professions.

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