Yup

You can try to make those 2 orders separately by order date as well. Just to be safe.

One huge difference is the sizing of the club crest + front sponsors + shirt manufacturer logo. The kid size jerseys has smaller club crest + front sponsors + shirt manufacturer logo compared to the adult size jersey. Another difference is the price. Kids size jersey is cheaper.

XL kids size is the equivalent of adult S size.

That is if you buy the jerseys abroad via online or by visiting the foregin jerseys in UK.


Yes it is not good, but you can rectify it by sticking oil paper inside the plastic cover (where the PU nameset/sponsor sits)


Simple. The SMALL FRONT NUMBERS are for the international team jerseys. They are the small front numbers lah, the small numbers place at the front of the national team jerseys. Like the england home jersey, the front number is the small number located at the front (beneath the umbro and england crest)

Syumul..

We can enjoy this hobby if we know how to.. Ensure that you have a proper budget to follow... set limit per month.. (easy said, not easy done though) Try to avoid using credit cards but use debit card to help controlling your budget.

And try to be nice and be friends with other collectors because they might help you provide some useful sources to buy authentic but cheap jerseys. Be honest, do not join into this hobby because of making profit and easy money from this noble hobby. We have some members who do that and betray us because we trust people when we share some sources and links to obtain good deals and bargains. But then once we found out that they are making side business and milking out money from this, it hurts us and don't ever break a trust from any member.

I've had ups and downs from this hobby. The bad side is I had few financial issues because of this hobby and I lost some friends because of it also. I'm a person who used to trust people easily but then once I know that a certain person cannot be trusted (no matter how huge his collection is or if he is a die hard match worn collector) I will never trust that person again. So trust is important.

The ups is of course.. I get to know so many friends, locally and abroad.

Have fun.

Roughly RM150-RM180 based on condition

Suspect maybe next month or in this month. Maybe after world cup finishes.

I'm with odieseven on this. Problem with female cutting jerseys is the sleeves are too small. Cannot place the EPL patches or starball on the sleeves. Besides for some muslims, they might feel more comfy to wear boys size or even men size jerseys.

Yes, you are 100% right. But there is a way to handle your wife if you know how to. Hint: Charles & Keith or vincci

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jun 7 2010, 10:25 PM

This is funny.. The same newspaper that showed the news on a raid held on fake sports good at JB has an article that is promoting fake jersey?



Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...7939&sec=nation

Anyway to those who think that buying fake jerseys in which is supporting the market and business does no harm, there was a good TV documentary show at astro (Channel 732 - Crime & Investigation Network) that is called Fakes (Part 1 and 2). This documentary show discusses about the fake industry at Thailand and China and it also involves fake Football Jerseys. Sadly the show's repeat was aired in early Jan 2010 so we missed it. But to those who wants to see the trailer of the show, here's a snippet:

http://www.citvasia.com/flash/fakes.swf



My point here is.. that many people don't know what has gone through when a factory produces fake goods.. in this case, fake jerseys. From the documentary show that I watched, I was shocked to see the workers at the factories producing fake jerseys were treated badly. Some were chained to the machine, working in cramped and not hygienic places.. the workers here are victims. Some are forced to worked because the parents owe money to loan sharks,.. Terrible..

And also.. there are rumours that some of the fake jerseys are unsafe to health.. check this out: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/157...rove-fatal.html

Sorry mate, missed out on your question. I think aw13 has answered it for you.

Another thing that annoys me and could in a way lead to people buying fake jerseys are some people who are selling authentic jerseys but selling them at ridiculous prices. This in a way kills off the interests of some people who are interested to look for genuine stuff..

Well it's ok if you own the item and the item you are selling is valued appropriately. For example, a genuine match worn jersey...of course has a higher price market value. But what makes me disappointed is when there are some people buying something that is sold at a decent price elsewhere and then later sells it off at a stupid ridiculous price (in some cases... profit margin up to 100% or above). It's not against the law but still... it is unethical to me.

It happens everywhere especially in this hobby....

Actually I think what erks people like makakeke and others is that these profit hunters sip the info from others and then quietly whallops everything and then re-sells it at crazy prices.

Yes, he/she is quick enough.. that is true. But that is not the reason why it upsets people but from where they get the info.

If you have your own efforts to obtain the sources, that is your 100% right. Tell me, who on this earth wants to do business with no profit?

It's the matter or issue on ethical. You join a forum, never or rarely join or mingle with us, quietly read infos on good and cheap deals, then quietly for yourself you go and whallop a lot and then resell it. First of all, the intentions is clear that you want to make purely 'untung atas angin'. Secondly, from where you got that info.

This is why some 'hardcore' jersey collectors are reluctant to join my-fjc. Because they are reluctant to share info on great deals. I know few.. one collector, he has the biggest collection in Malaysia and he is a bit reluctant to join my-fjc because of this. Another person, who is the "godfather" of a certain team jersey collection was at first reluctant to join us because of this issue as well, but finally he is abroad and we salute him for sincerely sharing a lot of precious infos. This hobby is tainted by these kind of people.

The key here is trust. When you trust someone, you are willing to share info on great sources to help complete your collection. Trust me it works. You need it in a huge network who shares the same hobby. Which is why trust is important. And the same reason why I denied someone to enter our forum because of 'trust' issue. Sorry to say, I might be mean but that's vital. Besides the decision was made as a group, not mine alone. So once you break the trust... sorry mate.

At the end... yes, you can make profit from your sales. But please do it ethically. No fake jersey. No need to quietly sip out info from others and then misuse it.

Finally godash, I agree with you on the right as a buyer. We should boycott these kind of people.. which is what we currently do hihi..

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jun 12 2010, 10:45 PM

Where did you buy them..

Sorry to say but both starball and respect patches looks fake to me.

Why?

1. The plastic film should be crystal clear and has a clear backing.. Yours has that white blurry fuzzy look on the areas that doesn't have material on the plastic film.

2. On the plastic film for the UCL Starball for 09/10, there should be a small square written 'TOP' on top of it. Yours doesn't have it

3. As far as we know.. most of the respect patches are senscilia technology with no plastic film.

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jun 13 2010, 09:26 PM

No wonder it looks familiar.

Actually the ones sold at la vanita.. the starball and respect patch, they are not made by SportingID. You can verify this with the singapore members..

It's fake dear. There is nothing to compare because umbro never made this jersey (as a player's match jersey or training jersey).

In fact this was the 'false alarm' kit that was leaked previously as being rumoured to be England's new home kit... which was false

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jun 14 2010, 10:16 AM

That's the pain of having those unethical sellers who are main priority is to get profit.

I remember you saying that you were lost just now.. regarding the argument that we were discussing.

To cut short and make things easy to understand.. (no need to give gramma story.. manufacting profit la, kitbag la, mamak la) at first we were angry when one reporter from The Star newspaper wrote something about the World Cup 2010 and was indirectly promoting fake jerseys. Then I added that, we are pissed off with these kind of people (selling fake stuff) but not only that, but with unethical sellers.

What do I and the rest mean about unethical sellers?

1. People who buy cheap and then sell expensively. Like the case you had.
2. Members joining my-fjc, then quietly sniffing the infos in the forum (spotted deals, bulks, bargains) and then misused it by buying them (small quantities or bulk, doesn't matter) and then re-selling them at ebay, mudah.com.my at crazy prices.

Example: Recently there was an ebay seller selling some Player Issue jerseys from the Nike Warehouse Sales in 2009. They were originally sold for £39.99 (shipping fee £8.00). Total: £39.99 + £8.00 = £47.99 or RM230++

Then this unethical seller resold one of it at RM750

How many % profit this seller gets? You do the maths...

No need to debate on getting it directly from supplier or what. Clearly we can see.. this kind of seller is so greedy.

Example: Whalloping the rare patches sold at some sellers like at wiggysports.co.uk (rare AXA Fa Cup Patches, retro The Football League patches) and then reselling them at mudah.com.my or ebay. Profit margin might not be that high but it was unfair because the info was first shared in my-fjc forum. There were some members who wanted it but were too late or didn't have the chance to do so because of these unethical sellers who pretend to be jersey collectors but were more to sellers (in fact, some of these people never even showed their collection).

Sometimes I wonder, should we impose a rule that new members or existing ones must show off their collection to gain their trust in the forum (that they are genuine collectors not profit hunters pretending to be collectors)? It's harsh because new members who want to learn this hobby might not have one... So it's a bit hard to apply.

So we had to act fast and ban these kind of members from the forum. Warning was given though beforehand but were ignored.

That's what the argument is about mate.. Hope that we can educate ourselves and others to stay away from these kind of sellers.

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jun 14 2010, 11:48 PM

The World Cup badge is not PU but actually senscilia material..similar to the CWC patch or respect patch

__mill,

If you want to find ladies size jerseys.. you can try looking at nike boutique stores at mid valley, one utama, sunway piramid and other shopping malls. But the quantities are limited here.

The best alternative is to buy them online from reputable online stores such as kitbag (www.kitbag.com). You can use your credit card or debit card (or even your maybank atm debit card) to purchase them online.

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jun 16 2010, 05:36 PM

Yes, it can my friend.

I've previously written a howto guide on using your maybank atm debit card to purchase jerseys online at online store or at ebay (using paypal). It was on the previous LYN Football Jersey Talk thread that was closed. Here's the link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1303914/+1340#

Have fun!

Actually in UK.. the PU type EPL namesets are popular at local stores.

But in Malaysia and Singapore, they opted to have the lextra type EPL namesets.. because they scared that buyers will be skeptical and reluctant to buy.. because of fearing them to be fake ones..

Which is why, if you buy kits from kitbag, never get them print the EPL namesets or patches because they are replica sized (PU). Better get them printed here. But from subsidesports, can because they will use lextra namesets

Coca-cola league namesets are all PU and only one size.

It is International Signed For, or registered mail. Requires signature upon delivery.

Nope, you cannot skip that part. Why, because the normal Maybank ATM card is just MEPS and BANKARD only. You can to convert it to Maybank Visa debit card so that the ATM card has a visa logo, becomes a visa debit card and you can use it to buy anything online using the visa merchant. Not only online but also overseas as well.

It cannot work if you use normal ATM Card.

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jun 17 2010, 03:32 PM

Not hard la buddy.. got evil bay (ebay).. now you know how to use your maybank atm debit card to buy at ebay using paypal.... apa lagi boss...

My England jersey with Insignia (v Algeria 2010) has just arrived on time today.... hehehehe... (was bought at kitbag and delivered on 6th June 2010)



The insignia is actually very thin velvet material... not embroidered

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jun 18 2010, 05:08 PM

Yup.. normal airmail. 12 days.. that's normal

Nope they don't because they use normal airmail.

And I think the actual ones worn by the players in the World Cup is also velvet material, not embroidered.. because it is too troublesome for the kitman, according to wiggy sports' blog:



Source: http://wiggysports.wordpress.com/2010/06/1...ld-cup-scrolls/

So the thin velvet material is ArtCut DB flock, which is the same material used for carling cup final 2010 patches

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jun 18 2010, 05:20 PM