Does anyone of you know how much is Res med in Malaysia?
Its a machine for treating Sleep Apnea problem.
Anyone of you got this problem as well and been using this machine?

http://www.resmed.com/us/clinicians/treatm...html?nc=aboutus

obstructive sleep apnoea is well known in obese people...
it doesn't "treat" the problem, it just relieve the symptoms so that u can maintain good oxygen saturation when you're sleeping.

lots of people with OSA tends to have lower blood oxygen saturation because of upper airway obstruction, by giving positive pressure, it helps to pump oxygen into the lungs.

ultimately, losing weight...lots of weight is the best remedy to this problem..

kilfex u seem to know alot of it. where is your first time came across this sleep apnea.
you know after i done the test with REsMed Machine, my whole body feels energetic and so fresh the next day and i don't even felt tired.

well the product doesnt cure.
the effect ur feeling might just be a placebo.
as he said. lose weight. it helps

thanks zedstat. i think i get wat u r saying. it just to help you to feed your senses thinking that you are well everyday but still not the solution as the real solution is cutting down the weight.

nope, the effect is not placebo, one can feel drowsy and sleepy due to the carbon dioxide retention in body when you have obstructive sleep apnoea,
you'll have lower blood oxygen saturation to start with.

The machine helps to relief all these symptoms by making sure you have good oxygen saturation in blood. that's why you feel fresh the next day when you wake up.

i do come across lots of these cases...but i'm not the patient.
depends on the severity of disease, if you're young , you should start off with diet and lifestyle changes because that helps a lot.
Sleep position sometimes can affect the patency of airway when you sleep.

when nothing above works, surgical indication like removing part of your palate sometimes help.

im having that problem too. dieting is still along way to go, but of course, i will work on it. but im also interested to know, how much is the machine cost? coz i duno how long it will take me to diet and lose weight, so i really nid a solution for the time being.

hi devil_x,

Sleep apnea is very common these days but many people took it too lightly and some people thought they sleep late. Best time to get sleep is at 9pm or 10pm. And getting up at 6am is the goal but i still hoping for that goal.

Sleep apnea will change your lifestyles. It makes u tired and also lazy to exercise.

this is the domino effect.

1) Not enough Sleep > tired > lazy to exercise > eating increases > getting more fat > double the sleeping hour and more tired.

The machine in the market have a few brand now but it is very expensive locally . ranging from 4.5K (china) - 9K (australia)

If u want to get diagnose to check the severity, u can go to Sunway Hospital and look for Thomas. He is very good in this . 2 days u need to sleep there for check up and cost u RM 3K for this check.



This post has been edited by hackwire: Jun 9 2010, 11:56 AM

Now the awareness of this sleep apnea disease has brought up to wake the public.
Nobody aware of this disease till now and we are still trying our best to bring the awareness about sleep apnea up as it is a very dangerous and deadly disease.
You can google up sleep apnea and check out the affects, symptoms, etc.

Highest range CPAP machine by ResMed cost Rm8k and sleep study somewhere around Rm300.


If you need more information, I'll tell you more about it

This post has been edited by Cyan7: Oct 9 2011, 09:58 PM

im using resmed right now . guys, there are a lot of doctors trying to warn how dangerous this sleep apnea but u know what, they are trying to sell you the machine . i read the star paper and i found out that all these professors or doctors are just part of one big scam trying to sell you this machine.

private insurance in malaysia will not cover your hospital sleep test and not even bear the cost of this machine for policy holders even though these sign of early heart disease. The private insurance have covered there butt well . Do you know in US, this machine is actually provided for sleep apnea patient and even cover the cost of parts replacement?

And because this case is so new to malaysian, we are not even up there to force insurance company to rewrite the policy. Many had died in car accidents in the highway due to this problem , only now we begin to address it as dangerous.

For your information, private sectors hospital and insurance don't give a shit about us. all they wanted is money. I am lucky that the govt welfare subsidize my machine at half price. Who says the govt don't help the poor. I have to thank the people in University Hospital PJ and the staffs from Resmed who helped me to get ResMed S9.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Oct 11 2011, 02:17 PM

Glad that you are one of the satisfied customer.
I agree with the US, Australia part where they provide free servicing, etc.
Unfortunately, Malaysia does not because we have to ship the stuff all the way from there which is quite costly.
and there's many ways to help patients getting this machine such as EPF, KKM, JPA, etc.

Anyhow, as you stated, many accidents happened due to sleep apnea and government is trying to come up with a plan where all public transport drivers (taxi, bus, etc) will need to go through the sleep study soon.

US insurance provide this coverage and even provide spare parts replacement according to the duration of wear and tear such as the air filter, mask and tube. Im still using this parts even the duration has exceeded ...

the insurance company here will not bear the cost of this mainly because they didn't include this problem in their cost. It's probably the same as car insurance where one can purchase additional option for windscreen. Anyway, insurance co always have their back cover before they even implement anything new into their policy.

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Hi all,

Not sure if this thread is still active.

My hubby was just diagnosed with OSA with AHI of 31.8. Doctor said it's classified as severe. He is not keen on using the CPAP machine and opted for surgery. But I'm not comfortable with him going for the UPPP surgery as I've read about many complications post-op, some severe and permanent.

Just want to know if anyone knows how effective SomnoGuard/SomnoDent is for someone with severe OSA? Hubby is not obese, in fact I think he's rather fit for his age. He eats healthy and exercises regularly. His lower jaw is short compared to the upper jaw which may be one of the causes of OSA. He only snores when he sleeps on his back. Unfortunately due to past shoulder injury, it's painful for him to sleep on his side.

Can anyone share some thoughts and experiences? I'm majorly stressed out!

Thanks!

It is probably too late an answer for your husband but judging by your description, your husband must tread carefully about doing UPPP especially when you mention he has a short lower jaw. He should have a sleep endoscopy done to ascertain where the problem is before he allows any surgery to be done otherwise he will not get the best benefit of surgery because the surgeon will not be able to ascertain the exact site of obstruction without doing a sleep endoscopy.

About sleeping on the side, the details in the sleep study will indicate whether he will benefit from sleeping on his side as in a significant people the problem still persists even when they sleep on their sides. Do not just look at the AHI reading.

How did you get the govt welfare subsidize for this machine. Could you please PM me on this

CPAP machine is for real bro, not placebo.

I'm obese and in 2018 i was told by my specialist that i'm suffering from sleep apnea all my life (the end of my fingers always blueish; not pinkish like everyone, i always sleepy even in meeting and driving :0, my oxygen reading in normal condition never > 85%). long story short i was recommended the ResMed CPAP machine by my specialist, it cost me RM7k (machine + full mask).

The 1st time i use it I felt like I had a full night deep uninterrupted sleep; even though i was testing the machine for just half an hour. Now I'm using it everynight.

if u are suffering from sleep apnea, I strongly suggest u to get it. The only caveat is (aside from $$) just when i'm travelling, I had to carry another bag for the machine LoL

I realised that I suffered from Sleep Apnea many years ago from my partners. I have not done anything about it until recently. I went to see a specialist at KPJ and did 2 sleeping test and as a result I found out that it is true. My sleep apnea also cause my high blood pressure. This is because of the lack of oxygen in one's blood especially during at night when one stops breathing. I have heard people dying in their sleep.

To those who say this is due to obesity, it is not the only reason, stop giving irresponsible advice if you are not familiar with this condition. Obesity is one of it but I don't think I am overweight. I trained at the gym more than most of you do any exercise.

I am still contemplating to get the machine. I am looking at Resmed and Phillips. The latter is cheaper but not so established like Resmed. The total costs has come down a lot. It is about RM5k for a good one and the machine is quite small.

You can claim EPF from account 2 to get this and also when you are doing your tax returns you can also deduct this (I think it's up to RM3K). Anyone wants genuine advice can contact me.

I agree, not all sleep apnea cases is due to obesity. Myself not overweight.

Resmed and Philips is good. I have both, Philips for use and the other as spare. I need to use APAP, otherwise next day I will be very tired. I can't afford to have APAP breakdown, that's why I have a spare. Some prefer Resmed due to EPR, easier to breath feature. Philips also have similar features (C Flex etc). Personally, I don't find much difference between two.

Very important is to get the right mask that fits you. Check if it will fit your face and no leaking.

Hi Sundancekid, may I know how much did it cost you for the sleeping test? Does insurance plan normally covers this?

I am thinking to go for one as I have always been tired even after getting enough sleep but recently just got worse, together with my bruxism.