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post May 11 2010, 04:51 PM, updated 16y ago

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i heard that 'chinese' hate manchu people and say they are not 'chinese'. why? what make 'chinese' chinese? they have the same color skin, slanted eyes, ching chong language oso.
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post May 11 2010, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(ah-kow @ May 11 2010, 04:52 PM)
Han chinese hate the manchu chinese

learn your history, indianman
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i don understand... y? they not 'chinese' enuf?
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post May 11 2010, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ May 11 2010, 04:55 PM)
i dun like manchu ppl oso...like last time my great great great great grandfather see manchu ppl trus kill on spot
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wow... y so hate

QUOTE(abbychan87 @ May 11 2010, 04:55 PM)
manchu is with pigtail, whereas HAN is without it
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stail ok... but that doesnt mean u can hate them

QUOTE(strace @ May 11 2010, 04:56 PM)
because they are mongol ching chong
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what mongol? they speak mandarin oso
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post May 11 2010, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(abbychan87 @ May 11 2010, 04:57 PM)
manchun conquear the china before, as it was the last dynasty of china
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so china (han) never conquer la?

QUOTE(don^don @ May 11 2010, 04:58 PM)
宁可我负天下人,绣叫天下人负我! laugh.gif

anyway... go learn china history if you're really interested. not bad wad the history, very interesting... smile.gif
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but china change the history.... they said manchuria is theirs, but manchuria is the one who invade them, and mongol, and tibet, and 2 more country i dont rmmbr... they only want to justify their action on tibet and others that in the power of manchurian bfore, when manchu want to make manchu country, manchukuo they said its japa puppet country... y so evil

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post May 11 2010, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ May 11 2010, 05:05 PM)
manchu ppl last time is dog to the emperor ...follow blindly without thinking..where han ppl all got brain and try to overturn manchu but unsuccessful coz wong fei hung last time lost battle to bruce lee
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no.. i manchu is a very good people comes from good ancestor
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post May 11 2010, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(garytong @ May 11 2010, 05:06 PM)
manchus are uncultured barbarians.
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they have culture ok.... i say Chinese absorb their culture
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QUOTE(ZakaRiaRia @ May 11 2010, 05:05 PM)
like ip man vs hong fist la ..

I'm chinese, I like machu ...

machu and han dont differentiate now de..

btw, hokkien ckt wins!!
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eh.. u not chindian?
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post May 11 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(lordsapt @ May 11 2010, 05:07 PM)
FAIL TOPIC

TS dont even know what is manchurians
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i know manchurian... their country is in the east China, between russia and korea.... beijing is theirs once, the capital of the jurchen
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post May 11 2010, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ May 11 2010, 05:08 PM)
tats like ... 300++ years ago Qing dynasty started

now u cant find 1 manchurian bcos after the end of the Qing dynasty their language completely lost , they all speak mandarin and they change their traditional long long surname to han chinese surnames
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thats y i think its funny sometimes coz they hate manchu when they might actually one
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QUOTE(daruma @ May 11 2010, 05:11 PM)
mandarin is manchu?

original chinese must be hakka.
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yes.. mandarin is one of manchurian language... thats y they sound more nice
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QUOTE(rourou @ May 11 2010, 05:13 PM)
- 夏 Xia dynasty (2070-1600 BC)
-商 Shang dynasty (1600-1046 BC)
-西周 Western Zhou dynasty (1046 - 771BC)
-春秋 Spring and Autumn dynasty (770-476 BC)
-战国 Warring States dynasty (475-221 BC)
-秦 Qin dynasty (221-206)
-汉(西汉,东汉)Han dynasty (Western Han, Eastern Han) (206BC- 220 AD)
-三国(魏,蜀,吴)3 Kingdoms (Wei, Shu, Wu) (220-280 AD)
-晋(西晋,东晋)Jin dynasty (265-420 AD)
-南北朝 Southern and Northern dynasty (420-589 AD)
-隋 Sui dynasty (581-618 AD)
-唐 Tang dynasty (618-907 AD) manchu
-五代 5 dynasty (907-960 AD)
-辽 Liao dynasty (907-1125AD) manchu
-宋(北宋,南宋)Song dynasty (Northern Song, Southern Song) (960-1279 AD)
-西夏 Western Xia dynasty (1038-1227AD)
-晋 Jin dynasty (1115- 1234 AD) manchu
-元 Yuan dynasty (1206-1368 AD) mongol
-明 Ming dynasty (1368-1644 AD) han
-清 Qing dynasty (Before Opium Wars of 1840 (1616-1840 AD))manchu
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what i rmmbr

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post May 11 2010, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(simsim @ May 11 2010, 05:15 PM)
this thread has no historical reference whatsoever

TS, when you say "Chinese" i includes, the han and the manchu and etc, so your terminology is wrong.

the chinese are made out of 80% Han chinese, its like in india there are different types of indians, the tamils, the hindis; and difference caste, well the chinese have different types of people as well who speak different languages and have difference cultures. but they are hadly as bad as the caste system that india still practices today.

i think hate is a wrong word, maybe after the ming dynasty there were people who didnt like the Qing, but the Qing dynasty did have one or two of the best emperors China has ever had. but of course in the end, a power hungry queen, a puppet emperor and corruption ended the dynasty. there are hardly any manchus nowadays. good luck hating them.
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whn i say chinese, i mean han+manchu who lost identity, coz manchu still say they are manchu
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QUOTE(yeezai @ May 11 2010, 05:18 PM)
the russian should take over the chinese long time ago...now china becomes russia...
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manchukuo was ripped 2, one russia take, one china take... after china say its puppet country of japan... its normal a new country seek support from other country... and many country edi recognize manchukuo.... but china think face said it was theirs
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QUOTE(rourou @ May 11 2010, 05:19 PM)
i think only in Qing is manchu lar...... in the olden days china is split and there were wars... the strongest which unit them was the Tang.  hence chinese also call themselves "tang" till today.  ini history my husband teach me one lar... laugh.gif
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no jin is manchu.... its all their people, but migrate, and form a country
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QUOTE(lordsapt @ May 11 2010, 05:21 PM)
genghis khan is mongolian, not even chinese =.=
ok i may be wrong, mandarin is china's common language, and it is not created by manchurians, it is created by qin shi huangdi(dunno how to spell) so that the unified china have a common language that everyone can use to talk to each other.
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QUOTE(mrfuad87 @ May 11 2010, 05:23 PM)
vieatnam many people say mandarin, then ist viatnam
is china?

genghis is like china oso what
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vietnam is hmong.. they are not han
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QUOTE(Avex @ May 11 2010, 05:24 PM)
Puyi was an ignorant emperor. Got dupe hahahaha
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puyi ran after manchu empire collapse... back to his country manchurian(manchukuo), after china took manchukuo, he has been under the china monitor, even has to marry han chinese... so sad
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QUOTE(lordsapt @ May 11 2010, 05:29 PM)
now i know many people FAIL as a chinese lol

once again, GENGHIS KHAN IS NOT A CHINESE, HE IS MONGOLLIAN!!!!

and i repeat, mandarin is china's common language, and it is not created by manchurians, it is created by qin shi huangdi(dunno how to spell) so that the unified china have a common language that everyone can use to talk to each other.
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no u dum, u think its easy to 'create' new language... mandarin is manchu language... manchu oso have many language.... thats y they sounds diff than hakka, canto
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QUOTE(Thalis @ May 11 2010, 05:31 PM)
TS... I really suggest you do some serious reading... your comments are really not helping your own thread at all....
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i told u china change they story
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QUOTE(quintessential @ May 11 2010, 05:31 PM)
does chinese like turks?

hell yeah. kazakhstan is china's best friend. and they have mata sepek liek han chinese. plus kazakh chicks are hotter.

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ya kazakh are not 'chinese'.... but some are them oso china citizen

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