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 ~**Proton CPS Tribe V7**~, >Power That Means Business<

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laytiong
post May 26 2010, 09:14 AM

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@pearjar: use wolfram alpha website to convert. that's wht i did on my iphone. u can go to website directly also. type "xx.xx kg-M to newton meters"

@spiroth: i was offered 1.7k for e-manage blue plus tuning until happy. AFC-Neo i tink has less options compared to e-manage. besides u dun need a fancy screen. as long as can rempit
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post May 26 2010, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(laytiong @ May 26 2010, 09:14 AM)
@pearjar: use wolfram alpha website to convert. that's wht i did on my iphone. u can go to website directly also. type "xx.xx kg-M to newton meters"

@spiroth: i was offered 1.7k for e-manage blue plus tuning until happy. AFC-Neo i tink has less options compared to e-manage. besides u dun need a fancy screen. as long as can rempit
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E-manage blue + install + tuning only 1.4k at JC Racing.
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post May 26 2010, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ May 26 2010, 09:07 AM)
New Neo is 1.6k+200 for install and tune.
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Just call the shop.. Install+ dyno tune.. rm1350 brows.gif
TSAzuma-kun
post May 26 2010, 09:56 AM

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safc, afc-neo and e-manage can give what effect?


Added on May 26, 2010, 9:56 amsuddenly gatal pulak tangan whistling.gif

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post May 26 2010, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(laytiong @ May 26 2010, 09:14 AM)
@pearjar: use wolfram alpha website to convert. that's wht i did on my iphone. u can go to website directly also. type "xx.xx kg-M to newton meters"

@spiroth: i was offered 1.7k for e-manage blue plus tuning until happy. AFC-Neo i tink has less options compared to e-manage. besides u dun need a fancy screen. as long as can rempit
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sweat.gif I thought u wanna that data... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ May 26 2010, 09:56 AM)
safc, afc-neo and e-manage can give what effect?


Added on May 26, 2010, 9:56 amsuddenly gatal pulak tangan whistling.gif
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TSAzuma-kun
post May 26 2010, 10:00 AM

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but i want to know the function first.
cant understand from reading. xplaination is better
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post May 26 2010, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ May 26 2010, 10:00 AM)
but i want to know the function first.
cant understand from reading. xplaination is better
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S-AFC/ AFC-Neo is Air Flow Converter... It change air flow rate to get best/optimum A/F ratio... That's all i know...
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post May 26 2010, 10:08 AM

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too much racun... Aaaahhhhh.... Cant take it... sweat.gif

While rempit got time to look at the fancy screen r???
sphiroth
post May 26 2010, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(pearjar @ May 26 2010, 09:54 AM)
Just call the shop.. Install+ dyno tune.. rm1350 brows.gif
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Go for it. brows.gif

QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ May 26 2010, 09:56 AM)
safc, afc-neo and e-manage can give what effect?


Added on May 26, 2010, 9:56 amsuddenly gatal pulak tangan whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ May 26 2010, 10:00 AM)
but i want to know the function first.
cant understand from reading. xplaination is better
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QUOTE(pearjar @ May 26 2010, 10:03 AM)
S-AFC/ AFC-Neo is Air Flow Converter... It change air flow rate to get best/optimum A/F ratio... That's all i know...
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Correct. AFC/SAFC can change airflow setting to tune the A/F ratio only. E-manage can also do ignition timing (if you bought the ignition harness). Its not really something that can improve hp/torque, its just like a 'conditioner'.

A/F too rich, engine response become sluggish and consume more fuel while A/F too lean, might cause damage to the engine.

QUOTE(mrl @ May 26 2010, 10:08 AM)
too much racun... Aaaahhhhh.... Cant take it... sweat.gif

While rempit got time to look at the fancy screen r???
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Its not for you to see, its just for showing off to your friend. laugh.gif
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post May 26 2010, 12:31 PM

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based on your dyno chart, the best afr is 13 right? does that only apply for campro cps engines?
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post May 26 2010, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(nayte @ May 26 2010, 12:31 PM)
based on your dyno chart, the best afr is 13 right? does that only apply for campro cps engines?
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AFAIK, for NA it should be the same. hmm.gif


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post May 26 2010, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ May 26 2010, 12:48 PM)
AFAIK, for NA it should be the same. hmm.gif
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I thought the best afr for complete combustion is 14.1 right? What will happen if we set 14? Overheat?

And, somebody did say the cooling system is not that good, anyway to improve that?
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post May 26 2010, 01:08 PM

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14 for me is kinda lean already

Cooling system? Get dual layer aluminium radiator ^^
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post May 26 2010, 01:46 PM

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I want to improve the torque summore.
I want to change the air filter first. I've recommended to change xractor but the car still new sweat.gif
dont want to touch anything near engine yet
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post May 26 2010, 02:05 PM

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Extractor does increase more torque and HP than air filter smile.gif
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post May 26 2010, 02:05 PM

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I know but sweat.gif
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post May 26 2010, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(mrl @ May 26 2010, 01:01 PM)
I thought the best afr for complete combustion is 14.1 right? What will happen if we set 14? Overheat?

And, somebody did say the cooling system is not that good, anyway to improve that?
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The 'ideal' is 14.7. But since our fuel and also air is not ideal, the best afr for lowest emission is 14.1. To get the most power, its around 13-13.5. This is from what I've read and please correct me if I'm wrong.

QUOTE(shinjite @ May 26 2010, 01:08 PM)
14 for me is kinda lean already

Cooling system? Get dual layer aluminium radiator ^^
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CPS got extra oil cooler if I remember correctly.

QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ May 26 2010, 01:46 PM)
I want to improve the torque summore.
I want to change the air filter first. I've recommended to change xractor but the car still new sweat.gif
dont want to touch anything near engine yet
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Airfilter no problem. Put back the original one when going for service.

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TSAzuma-kun
post May 26 2010, 02:09 PM

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Ya..going for air filter mayb nex month after gaji icon_idea.gif
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post May 26 2010, 02:35 PM

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post May 26 2010, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ May 26 2010, 12:08 PM)
Go for it. brows.gif
Correct. AFC/SAFC can change airflow setting to tune the A/F ratio only. E-manage can also do ignition timing (if you bought the ignition harness). Its not really something that can improve hp/torque, its just like a 'conditioner'.

A/F too rich, engine response become sluggish and consume more fuel while A/F too lean, might cause damage to the engine.
Its not for you to see, its just for showing off to your friend. laugh.gif
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Last time using Nan83 a/f reader, my car show 16 at idle and 14.8 at WOT.... sweat.gif

QUOTE(mrl @ May 26 2010, 10:08 AM)
too much racun... Aaaahhhhh.... Cant take it... sweat.gif

While rempit got time to look at the fancy screen r???
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Hehe.. Need to wear racun protector ler...

Me also need to sorok.. Wife ask, will say 'alat penjjmat minyak'. tongue.gif

QUOTE(sphiroth @ May 26 2010, 02:07 PM)
The 'ideal' is 14.7. But since our fuel and also air is not ideal, the best afr for lowest emission is 14.1. To get the most power, its around 13-13.5. This is from what I've read and please correct me if I'm wrong.
CPS got extra oil cooler if I remember correctly.
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13.5 is dyno dot2 line, most efficient maybe..... Some said 13.8 is the best... Zen/ KCNG icon_question.gif

SC foreman said that cps come with oil cooler, both auto and manual.... But couldn't find it at my car... sweat.gif

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