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 V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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post Nov 26 2010, 06:40 PM

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Normally the price for bird nest will increase during december/january? since february is CNY
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post Dec 11 2010, 04:08 PM

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yeah i also dont really like consultants. and internet lack information about latest gadgets for swiftlet farming too. i also wish to share my knowledges about BH. But mine is operated in a old way. 5 chicken coup humdifier that's all. temperature around 29-31C for upper level. Going to update my BH status after i back next week helping my mum to monitor the BH.

So far problems i faced:
1. Few new birds are dead( lizard?)
2. Lizard.
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post Dec 15 2010, 07:53 PM

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guys, My BH last 4 months around 1.3k nest. 800 nests in the 1st floor. after 4 months, it increased to 1k nests. Mean 4 months increase 200 nests only. Is that normal? We harvest like 20 days once. Hopefully can see more increment on 2nd floor tomorrow.
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post Dec 28 2010, 10:32 AM

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guys, how do u people maintain your chicken coop humidifier? i got a broken unit. Dont know how to repair it. sad.gif
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post Jan 17 2011, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(sfchung @ Jan 15 2011, 07:23 PM)
Hi folks,

I have been lurking around this forum for years. Perhaps right where V1 just started. Unfortunately I didn't have the fortune to be able to start a BH yet then and so kept a very low profile. However, things have changed and I am on the verge of starting a BH soon in Sarikei,Sarawak on a plot of agriculture land not too far from town. Will be doing the bird call test when I go back for CNY although my sis and sis-in-law have seen the area and saw a number of BHses around the area and the birds are rather visible too.

I must have listen to tons of swiftlet sounds (samples off the net) but to date, I still find it difficult to postively identify whether it is an external or internal sound. Baby chicks sound are probably more distinctive but the others I am not too sure. There are categories of sounds I believe for eg:

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U from sarikei as well? Where do u plan to build your bird house? Most of the new BH in town especially premises one, doesnt show a good result unless u build beside BATA tauke or the coffin shops one. Because the town is sooo saturated with bird houses. But then recently the area near to the swimming pool got a lot of bird houses.
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post Jan 21 2011, 07:54 PM

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what is the current price for bird nest? in sarawak dropped so much now only Rm4100 per kg
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post Jan 26 2011, 01:33 PM

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Same thing happen over sarawak here. In my place, there are 2 men who tried to steal my uncle bird nests. The first time they succeed. The second time they try to break in, 2 of them were caught on spot. A group of 5 people which are my uncle friends and nearby BH owners, beat them with baseball bat and some woods. Then my uncle join the party by kicking them doh.gif laugh.gif . If not mistaken one of their legs were broken. The other one just bleeding and sent to the police station. This thing happened 1-2 years ago. Since then, we tighten our security measures and nothing happen so far. I wonder how to break in if we use steel/concrete doors? Go in through monkey house would be suicide unless they have tactical gears. laugh.gif
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post Feb 4 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(benchai @ Feb 3 2011, 10:09 PM)
Around Sarikei there is no need to do bird testing. If you have any agriculture land and money just build and wait.

Build a good size BH and with the right technic you can retire in 4 years time.
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This is not true at all. It is not that easy. As the town already very saturated with BH.
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post Feb 18 2011, 02:22 PM

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I just came back from my hometown and help my parents with their bird house as well. They add another 2 humidifiers in the upper stair. Total up 4 humdifiers, 2 each room. But as usual, my parents didnt put humidifier in the downstair ( most populated area). Last few months were mating months? Because i saw alot of new swiftlets flying around. And manage to harvest more than usual (4.5kg). We were surprised because normally we harvest twice a month which total up around 1.5-2kg. I did count the bird nests too. I noticed the increment not so fast compared to last time. From august to december last year, increase from 1.3k to 1.7k nests. But as long there are increment, we will be happy. We are rural folks anyways except im studying at town right now. The bird shit seriously make me nearly fainted even i did wear my mask laugh.gif . So i asked my mum, "ma, go buy oxygen tanks like diver use one", and she laughed. tongue.gif Are the bird shit harmful?

So far i found few problems. The first problem with my BH is that there are lizards. Not sure got mouse or not. But i think my parents found few solutions for it. I will try to discuss with them more when i am on holiday which is next week. They operate the humidifer for 3 times a day. 45mins each time. Sometime im worried if it is too much or too little rclxub.gif . Should i get thermostat instead? And i told my mum to use fujibin humidifer for downstair one. Just use one since the fujibin humidifier can cover a large area.
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post Feb 18 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Feb 18 2011, 05:33 PM)
I have lizard problem too, please share how your parents over come the situation.
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i think they are using some sort of chemical product/potion or whatever it is. Im not really sure yet but they told me the liquid thing actually is to prevent ants from entering the BH. Odourless chemical i believe. Lets see how effective it is when i go back next week.
Just to share some of my BH pics: note the 2nd picture. The last plank is too close to the wall. That time constructor doh.gif

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post Feb 20 2011, 04:55 PM

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thanks for sharing WW.

Actually my area is rural and it is near the end of Sungai Rejang which connects to China sea. We are not the pioneer BH, because we build in 2008. The earliest is around 8-9 years ago. Around 3 BHs were built that time. Without them, i dont think our BH can be successful. sweat.gif . Pure luck i guess.

You said u enter ur BH without wearing mask? shocking.gif . How can u survive the smell? Even my eyes feel 'pedas' when clean the BS. How frequent do u enter ur BH for checking?

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post Feb 24 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(sfchung @ Feb 23 2011, 07:32 PM)
1) My BH neighbours , within 100-200M, are 4 storeys and 5 storeys and looked very well financed. I am going to build only a 3 storey BH. In this scenario, they have a height advantage and probably more capital than I. How would you compete in this environment? I probably can put more time into this as it will be full time. I plan to squat close to the BH to know and understand swiftlets intimately. This is standalone BH on agriculture land 5 mins from Sarikei town.
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Somewhere near swimming pool location isnt? i have a few friends built their Bird House around there.


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QUOTE(jasonhzh @ Feb 24 2011, 10:44 AM)
Hi everyone. My dad currently just completed build a 2 storey BH near Termerloh,Pahang and  plan to buy few humidifier to control the humidity and temperature. But we are not sure which types of humidifier is better and more suitable since we are still new to bird farming.

Any sifu can give me some recommendation about the humidifier and where i can buy it ?And usually how many humidifier needed for a 2-story 22x80 BH.

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If i were you, i will choose the chicken coup humidifier instead of ultrasonic one. Because the cost is much cheaper and easy to maintain. smile.gif

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post Mar 3 2011, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Mar 2 2011, 04:16 PM)
Talking about ELCB, pls. do check your Earth in your BH cos I just found out in one of my BHs, the earth line is not earthed and as such it so dangerous for if there is a leak, I will be gone to see my ancestors or to be with God. Useless if there is a ELCB without an Earth line grounded.

I called up an Electrician to hammer in a new earth and then my ELCB tripped, meaning that there was a leak in one of my humidifiers and luckily, I always switch off my humidifiers before handling them. Yes, do shut off before cleaning your humidifiers to be safe than sorry....
too late to be sorry any way.
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how do u clean the taiwan humidifer? Mine is pretty dirty and one of it malfunction. Do u clean ur humidifier frequently? alot of bird shit
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post Mar 21 2011, 06:59 PM

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Swiftlets over here are weird. Sometimes they dont tend to play around at the monkey house. Sometime make me wonder if my swiftlet population decrease as well. Luckily, after we count the nests, they are actually increasing.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 9 2011, 06:54 PM)
Yes you are right. 80% of the people lose money. Only 20% can make little money. Please stay away from this industry.
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20% make little money? I thought 20% make big money. No?
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post Apr 20 2011, 09:32 AM

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For my case, i start to harvest when they are 700+ nests which was last year. We harvest around 1.5-2 months. Now i think they are 2k nests, so we have to monitor 2-3weeks once & if condition is flavourable, we will harvest it. I think it is bad idea to only harvest 3 times in a year.
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post Apr 22 2011, 10:43 AM

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Max harvest per month i have seen is 7-10kg in my area. 10xRM4 = 40k per month. Average harvest for 2 storey BH? There are thousand of 2storey BHs, if u want the average it might be less than 500g(because of the failure rate). It is very hard to define successful BH or not. For me, if it costs u 400-500k to build 1 BH, after 5 years not even yielding 1kg per month, i consider fail. It depends on your area actually. For my 2storey BH @ RM140k (built in August 2008) until today, now around 2000 nests. I dont know how much is the average yield either. Not consistent. This month we manage to harvest less than 1kg i think, as mentioned by West Wing there are alot of eggs and chicks over the last 2 months. This is indeed very true. There is once we harvest 4kg and that was around december 2010-january 2011. And we have not even get back our capital yet, hopefully by the end of this year. You see, even for 2.5years @ 2k nests BH which i consider good and satisfy, still need minimum 3 years to get back the capital.

It is definitely not easy to success in this field. If i have invested RM200k in Public Mutual unit trust 5 years ago, i would have gain 150% which worth RM500k now (dont believe? check out Public Mutual thread under my post). But if i build a RM200k BH 5 years ago, by now i might only break even with my 200k capital or more to profit zone but definitely wont get you near 500k. However, it is different story if you build it and sell it.
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post May 10 2011, 08:48 AM

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anyone manage to harvest bird nests these few days? I was quite surprised with the amount this time. 3 times higher than previous month which was full with eggs and chicks. This thread abit quite though.
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post May 10 2011, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ May 10 2011, 02:36 PM)
This time, the harvest is much better than the last as there was this delay due to the weather. Most fellowmen told me of the increase of EBN and that's a very good sign.

Although, part can be harvest now and there are still many birds waiting to fly away so pls. be patient and harvest the rest after the birds fledged. This way, we get our harvest and the birds get to populate and better harvest in the future with more birds returning to breed.

My view on the matter to share. Congratulation on your 3X increment of nests.
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In my area, the bird fledged already. No i dont mean the nest increment is 3 times laugh.gif . It is the amount we harvest compared to last month tongue.gif How about your area?
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post May 17 2011, 07:13 PM

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Do you guys know what is the market price for bird house recently? I have done some reading and someone say it is 1k per nest. Let say if a bird house have 1k of nests, the bird house itself worth RM 1 million. Is this really true?

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