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post Jun 30 2010, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(letmein @ Jun 30 2010, 01:43 PM)
I sent my 2.0 for 1000KM service 2 days ago. As recommended, change the engine oil to fully synthetic, also have replaced the oil filter. Yesterday when i was driving out for lunch, suddenly felt the engine rev higher than before and reluctant to change to higher gear. I double checked that it was in D mode. That time i was moving slowly because of traffic, should be less than 20km/h, the gear was always on 1 or 2. First i thought it might because of slow moving but i never had the dragging feeling before. Then i changed the gear to N when moving at 15-20km/h, the car slowdown(like pressing lightly on brake) stopped itself without me pressing the brake. Then i moved back to D and it wont move until i press the accelerator, and the dragging feeling is like u forgot to release your handbrake fully. After some distance i found it back for normal and the next few KMs travelled did not have such problem until i almost reach my office, same problem occurred again. During the journey back home i encountered the same problem twice. This morning i get the same problem on highway, suddenly i felt the dragging and the engine was forced to lower the gear to push the car harder in order to accelerate but after some distance it went back to normal. It never happened before 1000km service.

This seems like an intermittent problem! I wonder anyone encounters the same problem? Please help!!!  icon_question.gif cry.gif
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this is the way synthetic oil does....coz, when engine is switch off for a long time, S. oil will get cold fast.
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post Jun 30 2010, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(letmein @ Jun 30 2010, 02:56 PM)
You mean this is normal?! It happens after 30mins of driving as well.
Sad that 2 weeks old car has this kind of problem. Not sure if it could damage the engine if i continue driving it. I'd better book a time with SC first..
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30 mins is damn long....muz b something wrong....at most this probably will happens after cold start engine for 5-10 mins...after that rpm drops to normal....
it is juz heating the engine oil....but urs, 30 mins, might had 2 do with....erm...mayb throttle cable/distributor
go SC to double check it....oh ya...plz b sure, nth stuck at ur pedal too... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 30 2010, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Jun 30 2010, 03:46 PM)
one of the symptoms is car jerking at 40 or 50KM/H.. but if more than that no problem no jerking at all..
thats what has been told by the owner lah..
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that is the crank pulley symptoms???
i had that problem too....
how to solve it??
the SCT said that problem won't do any harm to the engine/car 1....
i feel like something is wrong....terribly..
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post Jun 30 2010, 02:58 PM

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i still feeling it....
but what's the problem that causes it??
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post Jun 30 2010, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Jun 30 2010, 04:33 PM)
errr.. when i say jerking its very bad jerking. you feel the whole body jerk. the feeling is the same like someone "goyang" your car.
i dunno the solution.. better check with SC for clarification.

i knew bad incident happened to one of owner before. he posted in FB.. cannot recall if he posted in LYN.
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my jerk was not that bad...juz abit....until now still had the problem...problem is.....it happens randomly....
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post Jun 30 2010, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(izputra @ Jun 30 2010, 04:45 PM)
I think for your case, it is just a normal light jerk due to gear upshift. my 2.0 also can feel the light jerk during gear upshift especially when engine running cold & i consider that as normal since  our forte used the conventional gearbox, not the CVT anyway...  wink.gif even my father's Super-ECT transmission Vios also can feel the light jerk during gear upshifting
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but the problem occurs not while up or down shifting gears....is during mid drive, cruise around 40-50km/h
as i said...i drove like ah pek, a slow driver....also a light footer...
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post Jun 30 2010, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(izputra @ Jun 30 2010, 05:00 PM)
40-50km/h should be the range of speed where the Forte upshift/downshift from 3rd to 4th gear vice versa depending on the car's load & road conditions. try cruising away from that speed i.e. 70km/h to observe whether the same thing happen...
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nope...above 65, nothing ald...
juz speed between 40-55/65.....
problem is....the gear shifted to 4th in between, but during gear up or downshift, no jerk....only while cruising...
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post Jun 30 2010, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Jun 30 2010, 05:33 PM)
yeap.. only when cruising.. its not jerk because of gear change..
maybe u wanna check with SC.. smile.gif
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i did, but my SCT said, is nothing 1...no harm 1....bt i m very worried
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post Jun 30 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(izputra @ Jun 30 2010, 05:45 PM)
That's weird..so it cause by something else then. need to be rectify before this thing become worst. Last time when using my old wira & waja, this light jerking is happen frequently due to on/off of the aircond compressor when cruising at low speed. but no such thing in the Forte now...
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well, it happens 2 me...if not crank pulley, wat else the problem it could be??
oh btw....once i turn on the engine, air-cond always on together....hehe
so i won't feel hot inside
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post Jun 30 2010, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(toytoy @ Jun 30 2010, 05:59 PM)
For me the jerking only happens when upshifting from 2nd to 3rd gear or from 3rd gear to 2nd gear. other than that no jerking.

EDIT : One thing i need to add is it happens only when the foot is not on the accelerator. E.g. When i m cornering, i let go of the accelerator, when the car slows down i feel the jerk. But during exiting toll, i step on the accelerator from 0 - 80km/h, i don't feel the jerk.

The jerking feels like gear shifting but i don't think its becoz its not CVT engine. Even my wira or proton saga blm last time don't have this kind of jerking/pulling feel. You can feel downshift in a smooth drag feeling (once) but with forte it's like (dek dek dek, 3 times jerk). I asked SC during 1K service and they said it's normal, even took my car for a drive and still they said no problem. So i m not sure if it's pulley problem.

The undercarriage sound is more substantial. I can hear it everytime i off the engine. Last time wira and proton don't have this sound. But the toyota startlet turbo i drove last time got. It's from the exhaust cooling down. Quite loud, but i think should be ok biggrin.gif
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jerk as 2nd to 3rd gear is normal...4th n 5th no more...
but....the statement i bold is the problem i faced during mid cruise...in low speed, not in corner, but in straight....
in corner, never had this problem....whether i m accelerate or disaccelerate...it still gaves me the jerk...like jerk 3-4 times...not heavy type, but light type...can feel it when really noticing it....
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post Jun 30 2010, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(letmein @ Jun 30 2010, 06:07 PM)
For the jerking problem, so far it happens to 1.6 only?
Btw, what is our foglight bulb type?
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fog = normal...lots of luxury cars also kena...read earlier post...
jerk = not sure...but i read mostly 1.6 i think
is it related to 1 of the problems of Gamma engines?
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post Jun 30 2010, 05:13 PM

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lol....aircond had to switch off b4 turn off engine???
bah....so troublesome....

is this the reason causes the engine jerk during mid cruising??

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post Jun 30 2010, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(toytoy @ Jun 30 2010, 07:12 PM)
I used to turn off the aircond before stopping the engine. But then i heard New cars like Forte will cut off the power to the compressor before starting the engine. Thus there will be no problem.

I also dunno whether it's correct or not. Anyway we have 2 years warranty. Furthermore the manual oso never said to turn off a/c before turning off engine. So i leave it on. If compressor or battery kong during 1st 2 years then claim warranty hehe. tongue.gif
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yup...it's true...that's y i do it..since 'under warranty'....
i dun do anything which void warranty anyways...

letmein : sry 4 misunderstanding...i think the fog lamp bulb is H3 type..if not mistaken...
coz it's standard 2 all fog lamps

to all : i juz did some reading abt theta2 engine for 2.0SX.
it's believed to be as almost same identical engine with 4B11 of mitsu lancer/evo X, juz difference in material
but the block of the engine believes 2 b the same. the genesis coupe of hyundai turbo is from mitsu TD04 turbine.

so lucky all that get 2.0 fortes....i wish i could change 2 theta2 myself

sourse : http://www.nahgoc.com/f/showthread.php?p=7 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_La...2000-present.29 (read ninth gen. lancer)

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post Jul 1 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(ihtfw @ Jul 1 2010, 01:32 AM)
Guys...just a little input on the jerking issue. I have also been experiencing jerking, and it seemed pretty noticable today. Jerking happens when i downshift, ie when i slow down or depress the brakes. Normally happens within the 20-40km/h range. It will jerk two or three times sweat.gif

But when i am accelerating, i do not feel the jerking. Upshifts are quite smooth. Just the downshift repeated jerking. Quite annoying. Seems like the car is confused or trying to mate the sped with the suitable gear. Can it be solved hmm.gif

Besides that, is it true that the car lacks low end torque? Kinda need to push hard to gain decent momentum. Not high speed racing, just normal decent speeds
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mine is while accelerate or disaccelerate, will happen.....

Lover : when u 1st learn how to drive manual trans car, when ur clutch and pedal rhythm not properly match....the car will jerk, at the end, die fire.....nid to start all over again...
that's the jerk, but not that serious...kinda a light jerking, not heavy type...
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post Jul 1 2010, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Lover @ Jul 1 2010, 01:43 AM)
i see. is it the brake not control well? many new cars also like that when they press abit brake den will jerk .

ony 1.6 gt dis prob?
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the jerk problem u mentioned...yup...but not as heavy as it is...is juz like a light jerk, u will notice it when u r concentrating....
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post Jul 1 2010, 05:33 PM

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my bumper dented while parking juz now....dunno stupid Giant hypermart parking management put something unnoticeable and let me hit it....juz slight dented

can warranty claim the bumper??
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post Jul 1 2010, 05:46 PM

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=.='' then i hv 2 take it 'knock knock' the dented part and repaint....
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post Jul 1 2010, 06:30 PM

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WAH ..... i think ur problem 1000 times worse than mine.......
i dun hv 2 b sad again... xD
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post Jul 2 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(bmkia @ Jul 1 2010, 11:05 PM)
WTF.....
I really thought ur serious...

Bro Saimatkong,

Please add me in... bmkia (1.6 SX - Clear White)  biggrin.gif  Finally took my 1.6 whitey at rawang today and just got home.

Damned tired now, the moment I step into the car ard 4.30 just now to inspect the car, it started raining heavily... end up having to reduce the tyre pressure in the rain from 44 PSI to 36 for all 4 and end up soaking wet. By the time I left Rawang, it was like 6 d.... kena jam kau kau with rain all the way back to 1 Utama.... but the drive (despite being cold and wet ) is worth it. tongue.gif

The car got no "jerk" or rattling problem but alignment something off, it steers to the left. The sound system is GOOD esp with CD, USB ok but radio a bit weak. Gonna go shower then starting reading the car manual d. Tomoro gonna go fix tint with Amuroray in Cheras.

For people here that dint get their car yet, I managed to buy wheel cap (kia silver + installation) for RM100 from the store guys there. Also asked them to install my "K"emblem for free which I brought there.
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i had the 'jerk' feeling after 1k service, and during 2.7/2.8k mileage that time...now mine is 3.4k mileage
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post Jul 2 2010, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(toytoy @ Jul 1 2010, 11:58 PM)
Fully synthetic oil after 1k service might be the cause?

But i felt the jerking b4 my 1k service hehe...

Bro, try RON97 fuel and see if the jerkings reduce biggrin.gif
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same....nothing happen....juz car more energy oni...anyway, switching back 2 shell ron95 during nx pump....
since i m more on city drive, dun nid use ron97

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