Cantonese ppl > Hokkien ppl

or

Hokkien ppl > Cantonese ppl

what is the population of hokkien and Cantonese?

hokkien ppl many, but more ppl can speak cantonese in malaysia compare to hokkein.

hokien la duuhhh, go klang all speak hokien, go penang all speaking hokien, go jb all also speaking hokien. Only kl people speaking canto only..

got more malay people

Kuan lei mei eh si?
Hamisu lu ai cai?

Cantones is the 2rd largest group..2nd after hokkien = Hakka!

son, its hakka, not hokkien nor canton

in fact,i think hokkien ppl are more than cantonese ppl ...

but cantonese is more commonly used in kl n selangor area

i'm hokkien lang

got statistics or not?

thanks...

penang hokkien , KL selangor = cantonese

cantonese:hokkien
3:1 ratio

This post has been edited by 009haru: May 7 2010, 01:49 PM

Bro why bother hokkien or cantonese...
We are all chinese, right??

Dialect Population[14]
Hokkien (Minnan) 1,848,211
Hakka 1,679,027
Cantonese 1,355,541
Teochew 974,573
Mandarin 958,467
Hainanese 380,781
Min Bei 373,337
Foochow 249,413

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_Chinese

do not talk shit,

hokkien go taiwan and xia men( dunno english call wat) can use ..

canto go hong kong learn wing chun only

hubei or hunan dialect is good oso

Thats very informative....

Thanks again...

Didn't know there are so many Hakka ppl in Malaysia...

somemore more than Cantonese...

you know why ? canto ppl is kantoi.

ampang, serdang got alot hakka

ipoh also !

why u say?

most of them are pretend cantonese

its good to see the reduction in cantonese usage recent years, lalas use more mandarin than canton also

kthxbai

Why is it good to see a reduction is Cantonese usage?

doesn't really matter la.. in lyn, hokkien is the new english

woah... epic statement...

gua si hokien lang... huat arrr!!!!

i is dunno also
except for banana and real canton ppl, i dunno why ppl of other dialect grp like to use cantonese for no reason..
i see alot hokkien and hakka families in KL, when at home they use 100% cantonese, my mom said these are the traitors lolz

This post has been edited by dattebayo: May 7 2010, 02:02 PM

i learn china mainland dialect to tackle sweet young PRC ...hubei

hokkien canto and all outdated liao lor..

No such thing as reduction in Cantonese usage...

in fact Cantonese have been monopolized the TV programme, radio for long long time...

nowadays, my fm, 988, tv3 and ntv 7 all speak Cantonese instead of Mandarin...

one day... Mandarin will get obsolete soon...

In the future... all kids speak Cantonese in school... no more mandarin...

kthxbye...

this is still acceptable, my fren use 100% tamil ..i call them ..

do not talk shit,

all media use canto because based on kl ...

all can understand canto but not many speak canto ...

lu is srowpork spotted

My FM at least got 40% slot for mandarin
988 should be the same
tv3 long time no air cina show
ntv7 home made shows all mandarin based

I dunno I have fed the troll or not

this is not true... canto only dominate HK media...

no matter what dialect u use oso u still is chinese...

hokkien kot....
coz like everyone knows how to speak hokkien, except me

If you speak Hokkien or Hakka on myfm and 988....

nobody wants to choi you...

agree...

my fm and 988 play 80% of mandarin songs. hardly have cantonese song like 10 years ago.
our local media seems like reduce a lot of cantonese. cantonese new song hardly reach bolehland for the past few years.

still got mindfcuk hokkien dramas aired on ntv7 daily

as for hakka, no liao lor, only left hakka tered in /k/ liao

hokkien n hakka ppl busy working la...

unlike canto lalazai lalamui, nbtd listen radio and spam here

sabah and sarawak got a lot of hakka....
maybe they contribute 1/3 of malaysian hakka...

I think hokien, some idian and malay also can speak hokien, lol

because working guys ..

canto usually lcly, no mix with others ...so usually hokkien teach their colleague speak hokkien

canto kia lcly....majulah hokkien lang

This post has been edited by fookeatmin89: May 7 2010, 02:32 PM

my mum is hokkien and my dad is catonese one wor

then who am i?

i dun speak cantonese or hokkien only mandrin

oz i live at perak(cantonese) there when i was small for 10 years (not yet adapt cantonese)

then i live move to Penang(hokkien) for 8 years,still pretty hard for me to speak hokkien

as my parents usually speaking mandrin with us

i can know what you talking about but i still will answer you with mandrin one

Min Bei ?



1st time i dengarlah ?

Same with me

Follow dad usually so cantonese lor... but I use hokkien more

u seem like retard, no offense ...

if I were u, I would hv learnt the 3 dialects perfectly at the age of 10.

all i know is cantonese ppl very want FACE

like ah beng. want to wear big big gold during dinner - to show off
then talk very lansi - but actually is poorer than ppl

Well... it isnt easy to be Chinese....need to know 4 and more languages to survive....

Most Malay friends i know only know how to speak 1 or 2 languages...

canto oso got humble wan la..like ip man


so what?

like u can drive bus lorry sedan ....basikal..it's for ur own good

the more the better

Only Sabah-lah..Sarawak depend on city/town. Sibu - Foo chow. Kuaching still Hokkien.

erm,did i say i understand?mean i can also speak cantonese and hokkien

it just feel stranger in my mouth,so i only talk mandrin

and also,from my experience,different family got different type of cantonese one

do you guys agree?do you guys speak cantonese like on the radio one?or the hk drama?

my grandma at my hometown speak some campur cantonese one,

it take time to understand,this year my grandma finally can go China to visit her family

which she has wait for almost 60 years liao

aiseh.. lucky i can speak malay, eng, mandarin, hokkien, cantonese.. im proud.. thanks

i thought cantonese people more nice,no?

maybe only apply for my hometown people..hehe

coz if you come penang(hokkien),they pretty rude one

dun like the way they deal with things,haish

Me too haha..Probably means Noirthern Fujian bcos Min - refering to hokkien & bei (north) haha.

Perak actually not fully canto state.. Sitiawan/Manjung is Foo Chow towen. Taiping is Hokkien. Tlk Intan - I think Hokkien.

china 1 state = 2 or more malaysia

what to compare, learnt china mainland dialect and takle PRC ..wub

LOL! Simple lah, Hokkien scold badwords very nice to hear! Funny some more! And when gangster use Hokkien, very sexy in some way or scary.

Some more other races in Malaysia using Hokkien bad words.

Hokkien FTW!

And yes, Mandarin is created for a reason, to unite the chinese. So please, our school teach mandarin, then speak mandarin lah. Sometimes I speak mandarin they die die reply in canto, and I don't understand canto, then I just hangguk kepala. What to do...

This post has been edited by Hookah Stuff: May 7 2010, 02:56 PM

telok intan canto la...

mo more argument. The correct data is in my hand.


Hokkien 36%
Hakka 21%
Cantonese 19%
Teo Chew 12%

And please bear in mind. Lots of ppl who speak cantonese are hakka. not cantonese ppl. For example, ppl in ipoh.

i see lots of canto ppl butthurt here

I don't get it...

Why most Hakka ppl don't want to speak Hakka language?

mah gai lin??

You have to understand the culture of hakka people. Even though they speak cantonese outside their home. They still speak hakka within their family. Because there is a long history behind hakka ppl. They need to fit in to survive. Thats why you find hakka ppl in both fujian and guangdong. It is their way to live with "others".

nga ma ee ... ai oi kong meh kong la ... ee kacau ai zho ma kai .... diau lia mah ah ... ai chang oi tong hakka yin kong um tek ah ... hakka yin da zhi mou siong kong di mau ...

This post has been edited by macyhouse: May 7 2010, 03:15 PM

not hainanese the most LCLY meh

lihat the ex-MCA president, he's a hainanese

and most of them got 'angin kepala' too

btw, namewee is a hainanese too

The name "Khek" already ring bell liao..New visitor or Guest..hakka is the only Chinese ppl without a state. Migrated fromn the North to Guandong & Fujian province. & thereafter to Malaysia & etc...

malaysian got manchu chinese o not? speak xibe lang?

Hainanese is actually part of Minnan or Hokkien grouping..Lotsa similarity.. They migrated fromn Souther Fujian to Hanan Island not longt agao ~ 1000yrs ago..The original ppl of Hainan actually those Austronesian -malayo Polenesian ppl..similar culture to those Alisan ppl of Taiwan & even those kadazan in Sabah.

hainan language manyak difference with hokkien woh

i live in Perak,Slim River

a very small kampung

Well not really i'm Hainanese & also fluent in hokkien so I know the differences haha

It's because of all those cantonese tv shows in the past. but these past few years, there's suddenly a lot of shows from taiwan.

There's even FTA satellite tv that can be received in Malaysia. My friend has one. Uses the Astro dish, but pointed at a different bird. Only 6 channels, but no monthly fee.

I can see what will happen in the future is that whatever dialect will become obsolete and only the elder generation will speak dialect. You can see parents are now speaking mandarin and/or english to their kids only. Actually you can observe this easily in Singapore as they banned dialect in media long time ago. Malaysia is just about the same.

There are some other special ancestry group like 龙岩/leng-nga as people who can speak leng-nga dialect are very rare but because they are in fujian, speaking hokkien is also native to them. But lots of leng-nga ppl in malaysia do not know how to speak leng-nga dialect anymore. Another one would be 广西/guang xi

I remember i saw a statistic b4, sarawak got around 30k hakka....if sabah also around 30k, means sabah and sarawak contribute around 1/3 of hakka population in malaysia lor....
Abt kuching got more hokkien ppl, kch really got many ppl speak in hokkien cuz hokkien is commonly speak language in kuching town...
I always encounter b4 when buying something at shop...tauke speak hokkien wif me to promote his goods but speak hakka wif his family

Cantonese is more commonly use in malaysia because of the media. We have MY FM that use cantonese. My dad is hakka and my mom is hokkien. too bad i can only speak cantonese and mandarin because those 2 language are not widely use in KL. Even when i go to JB/SG, i can still use cantonese here as the people here do understand cantonese.

hamisu?

its ghey language.

hami tai? talk like man. dun siah shueay hokkein

it's in a category of min 闽。。。
got 闽北 and 闽南。。
under min nan got hokkien, teochew and hainannese....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_Bei
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_Nan

This post has been edited by cyc85: May 7 2010, 04:47 PM

not really true. You feel that cantonese is more commonly used because you live in either KL, Ipoh and some other place. You have to remember KL is a small place in Malaysia and speaking of "commonly used dialect", you need to have a wider view. To be more exact, there is no single dominant chinese dialect in Malaysia. This depends on which area you are living in.

In SG, it is unlikely for you to find someone who can understand cantonese except when they are actually Malaysian, Hong Kong ppl or some really elder Singaporean. If you speak cantonese in JB, most of them will give you a stare, "har?". Mandarin is now the de facto language used in JB among chinese community due the influence of Singaporean media.

depends. if u penang hokkein u will not understand.

johor, melacca, and the east coast hokkein ppl can understand hainan/hokkein.

my granma from fujian. i speak fujian. everyone exept penang hokkein ppl can understand me.

hai wanna ask something, people that live area Selangor... they use hokkien, cantonese or mandarin??

not really la, mayb too many malaysian in Singapore? but i normally use mandarin in Singapore, but when i see people talk in cantonese, then automatic i will switch to cantonese. feel more macho to talk in cantonese ^^. but if u go to singapore chinatown, 90% of the folks there speak cantonese.

Hami su beh sai meh? Kar chey Penang lang kong. Hami tai si Johor hokkien?

hami tai is my granma teach one. wuhahahah

not sure johor ppl understand onot?

"hami su" in hokkein is meaning "what slide?"

Ok kamsiah kamsiah. Learn new Hokkien word.

Klang is a hokkien city. ppl speak southern hokkien in Klang. Elsewhere all cantonese.

Interesting I heard more mandarin in SG 10 years ago amongst youngsters. Today I hear far more English there.

Agree on cantonese and KL part.

On johor bit, it's true that hokkien and teochew look down on own dialect and therefore choose to pass on only mandarin to children. Johor is malaysia's mandarin speaking capital. Melaka is the same.....sad

100% agree. To summarise

Hokkien-> mandarin speaking
Hokkien -> cantonese speaking (in Klang valley)
Hakka -> Cantonese (in Klang valley and canto speaking areas)

Hokkien and Hakka people not proud of own language?

all MALAYSIAN use hokkien when cursing regardless of race.

hokkien give us the most beautiful words when it comes to cursing.

this is true ...i like use hokkien words to scold / curse ppl..
it's so smooth

Kia walang ki chuai kay ki meh ai mai? Mincai penang u bo

no offence, but i also experience some very rude hokkien people, so, i guess, cant say that all cantonese people lcly and i cant say that all hokkien very rude. so please respect

yup,the 1st thing i learn from hokkien is the cursing part

its really nice to use leh,hehe

plus,if people curse you,you'll also know what

all i know is kl/pj mostly cantonese, but klang all hokkien. but all can speak mandarin.

Anyway, no matter Hokkien or Cantonese, Chinese are united by Mandarin. Thank God Shih Huang Ti made that effort else Chinese language status would be like Indian and Bahasa. Diverse but not nothing unifying.

I'm hokkien but when i met my friend from KL i speak cantonese and they so surprised " u can speak canton ??" .. I lolzzz

I don't think so.

Sabahan don't really use that because they do not know Hokkien in the first place.

Some of them only know Hokkien curse words when they study in peninsular.

Are you really sure Mandarin existed in those days?

Especially during Shih Huang Ti era.

It's a fate suffered by all Chinese dialects. Lookup diglossia on wikipedia. Standard Mandarin is the official / literary / "high" language.

Is not about pride or what. Remember most of them speak their own dialect in their home. This is what we call as language assimilation. In penang there are lots of cantonese ppl who do not know how to speak cantonese properly but speak fluent hokkien. As i said, it regional and nothing to do with pride.

Most importantly, nowadays people don't really cares about their ancestry and its language. They care about $ and survival in a remote place.

This is something funny that people tends to label another bad person based on their appearance, ancestry etc.

If a chinese cheat another non chinese person money, the conman will be labeled as "chinese cheater" instead of conman.

Same to ancestry problem, people tends to label hakka and super stingy, selfish, hokkien as endless greed, cantonese as rude and noisy blah blah blah.

In the end, it is something individual and has nothing to do with our ancestry as a whole