QUOTE(calibre2001 @ May 7 2010, 06:46 PM)
Interesting I heard more mandarin in SG 10 years ago amongst youngsters. Today I hear far more English there.
Agree on cantonese and KL part.
On johor bit, it's true that hokkien and teochew look down on own dialect and therefore choose to pass on only mandarin to children. Johor is malaysia's mandarin speaking capital. Melaka is the same.....sad
100% agree. To summarise
Hokkien-> mandarin speaking
Hokkien -> cantonese speaking (in Klang valley)
Hakka -> Cantonese (in Klang valley and canto speaking areas)
Hokkien and Hakka people not proud of own language?
Is not about pride or what. Remember most of them speak their own dialect in their home. This is what we call as language assimilation. In penang there are lots of cantonese ppl who do not know how to speak cantonese properly but speak fluent hokkien. As i said, it regional and nothing to do with pride.
Most importantly, nowadays people don't really cares about their ancestry and its language. They care about $ and survival in a remote place.
QUOTE(cheerioet @ May 7 2010, 07:47 PM)
no offence, but i also experience some very rude hokkien people, so, i guess, cant say that all cantonese people lcly and i cant say that all hokkien very rude. so please respect
This is something funny that people tends to label another bad person based on their appearance, ancestry etc.
If a chinese cheat another non chinese person money, the conman will be labeled as "chinese cheater" instead of conman.
Same to ancestry problem, people tends to label hakka and super stingy, selfish, hokkien as endless greed, cantonese as rude and noisy blah blah blah.
In the end, it is something individual and has nothing to do with our ancestry as a whole