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> Malaysia got more Cantonese ppl or Hokkien ppl?

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post May 7 2010, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(selenium @ May 7 2010, 04:45 PM)
hamisu?

its ghey language.

hami tai? talk like man. dun siah shueay hokkein
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Hami su beh sai meh? Kar chey Penang lang kong. Hami tai si Johor hokkien?
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QUOTE(Hidan @ May 7 2010, 05:20 PM)
Hami su beh sai meh? Kar chey Penang lang kong. Hami tai si Johor hokkien?
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hami tai is my granma teach one. wuhahahah

not sure johor ppl understand onot?

"hami su" in hokkein is meaning "what slide?"


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post May 7 2010, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(selenium @ May 7 2010, 05:28 PM)
hami tai is my granma teach one. wuhahahah

not sure johor ppl understand onot?

"hami su" in hokkein is meaning "what slide?"
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Ok kamsiah kamsiah. Learn new Hokkien word. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 7 2010, 05:35 PM

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Klang is a hokkien city. ppl speak southern hokkien in Klang. Elsewhere all cantonese.

QUOTE(xpole @ May 7 2010, 04:55 PM)
hai wanna ask something, people that live area Selangor... they use hokkien, cantonese or mandarin?? smile.gif
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post May 7 2010, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ May 7 2010, 04:55 PM)
not really la, mayb too many malaysian in Singapore? but i normally use mandarin in Singapore, but when i see people talk in cantonese, then automatic i will switch to cantonese. feel more macho to talk in cantonese ^^. but if u go to singapore chinatown, 90% of the folks there speak cantonese.
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Interesting I heard more mandarin in SG 10 years ago amongst youngsters. Today I hear far more English there.

QUOTE(DarkForXe @ May 7 2010, 04:50 PM)
not really true. You feel that cantonese is more commonly used because you live in either KL, Ipoh and some other place. You have to remember KL is a small place in Malaysia and speaking of "commonly used dialect", you need to have a wider view. To be more exact, there is no single dominant chinese dialect in Malaysia. This depends on which area you are living in.

In SG, it is unlikely for you to find someone who can understand cantonese except when they are actually Malaysian, Hong Kong ppl or some really elder Singaporean. If you speak cantonese in JB, most of them will give you a stare, "har?". Mandarin is now the de facto language used in JB among chinese community due the influence of Singaporean media.
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Agree on cantonese and KL part.

On johor bit, it's true that hokkien and teochew look down on own dialect and therefore choose to pass on only mandarin to children. Johor is malaysia's mandarin speaking capital. Melaka is the same.....sad

QUOTE(DarkForXe @ May 7 2010, 02:56 PM)
And please bear in mind. Lots of ppl who speak cantonese are hakka. not cantonese ppl. For example, ppl in ipoh.
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100% agree. To summarise

Hokkien-> mandarin speaking
Hokkien -> cantonese speaking (in Klang valley)
Hakka -> Cantonese (in Klang valley and canto speaking areas)

Hokkien and Hakka people not proud of own language?
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post May 7 2010, 07:19 PM

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all MALAYSIAN use hokkien when cursing regardless of race.

hokkien give us the most beautiful words when it comes to cursing.
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post May 7 2010, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Shark1911 @ May 7 2010, 07:19 PM)
all MALAYSIAN use hokkien when cursing regardless of race.

hokkien give us the most beautiful words when it comes to cursing.
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this is true ...i like use hokkien words to scold / curse ppl..
it's so smooth
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post May 7 2010, 07:42 PM

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Kia walang ki chuai kay ki meh ai mai? Mincai penang u bo
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post May 7 2010, 07:47 PM

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no offence, but i also experience some very rude hokkien people, so, i guess, cant say that all cantonese people lcly and i cant say that all hokkien very rude. so please respect
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post May 7 2010, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(sky heart @ May 7 2010, 07:33 PM)
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this is true ...i like use hokkien words to scold / curse ppl..
it's so smooth
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yup,the 1st thing i learn from hokkien is the cursing part

its really nice to use leh,hehe thumbup.gif

plus,if people curse you,you'll also know what tongue.gif
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post May 7 2010, 08:07 PM

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all i know is kl/pj mostly cantonese, but klang all hokkien. but all can speak mandarin.
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post May 7 2010, 08:10 PM

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Anyway, no matter Hokkien or Cantonese, Chinese are united by Mandarin. Thank God Shih Huang Ti made that effort else Chinese language status would be like Indian and Bahasa. Diverse but not nothing unifying.
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post May 7 2010, 08:11 PM

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I'm hokkien but when i met my friend from KL i speak cantonese and they so surprised " u can speak canton ??" .. I lolzzz
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post May 7 2010, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Shark1911 @ May 7 2010, 07:19 PM)
all MALAYSIAN use hokkien when cursing regardless of race.

hokkien give us the most beautiful words when it comes to cursing.
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I don't think so.

Sabahan don't really use that because they do not know Hokkien in the first place.

Some of them only know Hokkien curse words when they study in peninsular.
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QUOTE(Hidan @ May 7 2010, 08:10 PM)
Anyway, no matter Hokkien or Cantonese, Chinese are united by Mandarin. Thank God Shih Huang Ti made that effort else Chinese language status would be like Indian and Bahasa. Diverse but not nothing unifying.
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Are you really sure Mandarin existed in those days?

Especially during Shih Huang Ti era.
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QUOTE(calibre2001 @ May 7 2010, 06:46 PM)
Hokkien and Hakka people not proud of own language?
It's a fate suffered by all Chinese dialects. Lookup diglossia on wikipedia. Standard Mandarin is the official / literary / "high" language.
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QUOTE(calibre2001 @ May 7 2010, 06:46 PM)
Interesting I heard more mandarin in SG 10 years ago amongst youngsters. Today I hear far more English there.
Agree on cantonese and KL part.

On johor bit, it's true that hokkien and teochew look down on own dialect and therefore choose to pass on only mandarin to children. Johor is malaysia's mandarin speaking capital. Melaka is the same.....sad
100% agree.  To summarise

Hokkien-> mandarin speaking
Hokkien -> cantonese speaking (in Klang valley)
Hakka -> Cantonese (in Klang valley and canto speaking areas)

Hokkien and Hakka people not proud of own language?
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Is not about pride or what. Remember most of them speak their own dialect in their home. This is what we call as language assimilation. In penang there are lots of cantonese ppl who do not know how to speak cantonese properly but speak fluent hokkien. As i said, it regional and nothing to do with pride.

Most importantly, nowadays people don't really cares about their ancestry and its language. They care about $ and survival in a remote place.

QUOTE(cheerioet @ May 7 2010, 07:47 PM)
no offence, but i also experience some very rude hokkien people, so, i guess, cant say that all cantonese people lcly and i cant say that all hokkien very rude. so please respect
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This is something funny that people tends to label another bad person based on their appearance, ancestry etc.

If a chinese cheat another non chinese person money, the conman will be labeled as "chinese cheater" instead of conman.

Same to ancestry problem, people tends to label hakka and super stingy, selfish, hokkien as endless greed, cantonese as rude and noisy blah blah blah.

In the end, it is something individual and has nothing to do with our ancestry as a whole
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post May 7 2010, 08:53 PM

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wa lang hokkien lang chin ya gao eh...
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post May 7 2010, 08:55 PM

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Hakka more in Sabah, KK
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QUOTE(maymay @ May 7 2010, 01:44 PM)
got more malay people
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