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Humanities Why people believe in lucky numbers?
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TSBeastboy
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May 7 2010, 12:02 PM, updated 16y ago
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Do superstition affect you? It did to me. Recently I bought a car and had to pay some money to buy a number plate. Its not becoz I like the number. Its becoz I want to avoid certain numbers that will make it hard for me to sell my car later (I oredi kena with my previous car which had two digit '4' on the plate, cilaka.) So I did it for financial reasons.
Yes many of us don't believe in lucky numbers but we still choose to avoid it because its seems nobody want to buy anything with a "bad" digit on it. So indirectly a disbeliever oso encourage the practice of lucky numbers.
The question: Do lucky numbers work?
Before you say no, let me give this scenario. Lets say you were shopping for a house and you got two to choose from on the same street. One is no. 44, the other is 68. Price same, both are equal in all other respects. Which would you buy? Why? If you avoided no. 44 and you say lucky numbers don't work, isn't that a contradiction?
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abubin
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May 7 2010, 12:16 PM
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I don't believe in lucky number. You previous car buyers complain about the number probably because they want to make you reduce the price. People who go for numbers are losers. When something bad happened to them, they will blame it in their car numbers, house numbers, their fengshui, their surroundings, their father, mother, children, collegues but NEVER THEMSELVES.
Give me a number plate with 4444, I'll gladly take it. Such a nice number. Maybe thieves will avoid stealing my car for fear of getting bad luck, LOL.
This post has been edited by abubin: May 7 2010, 12:17 PM
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TSBeastboy
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May 7 2010, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ May 7 2010, 12:16 PM) Give me a number plate with 4444, I'll gladly take it. Such a nice number. Maybe thieves will avoid stealing my car for fear of getting bad luck, LOL. Ha ha, good idea! All the car on the road will make way for you when u pass, lol... Lucky I managed to get a good price for my car... by selling it to someone who don't believe in numbers. Can u believe the car no. was 1144 and it had far less problems than my fren whose car no. is 168 (he kena accident summore). This post has been edited by Beastboy: May 7 2010, 02:04 PM
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faceless
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May 7 2010, 04:37 PM
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You had to bid for the number 4444. Malays like the number four because "empat" can be twisted to "dapat". Just like how chinese twist "pat" to "fat".
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abubin
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May 7 2010, 06:50 PM
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you see.. that is evidence that these are bullshit.
Malays like 4 because dapat but 4 is bad for chinese. So, does that means the numbers can recognize it's owner to be chinese or malay and then work it's magic? LOL
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beatlesalbum
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May 7 2010, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ May 7 2010, 12:16 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I don't believe in lucky number. You previous car buyers complain about the number probably because they want to make you reduce the price. People who go for numbers are losers. When something bad happened to them, they will blame it in their car numbers, house numbers, their fengshui, their surroundings, their father, mother, children, collegues but NEVER THEMSELVES. Give me a number plate with 4444, I'll gladly take it. Such a nice number. Maybe thieves will avoid stealing my car for fear of getting bad luck, LOL. Are you implying all car thieves are Chinese? How presumptious and racist of you.
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teongpeng
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May 7 2010, 08:56 PM
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ppl want nice number because its associated with status. if u got 8888 number plate ppl will think u are some kinda rich bugger and have better impression of you.
ppl with random number like 4592 or sumthing pppl will say...what la this cheapskate spend a bit ma...buy better numbers.
Something like that.
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teongpeng
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May 7 2010, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(Beastboy @ May 7 2010, 12:02 PM) Before you say no, let me give this scenario. Lets say you were shopping for a house and you got two to choose from on the same street. One is no. 44, the other is 68. Price same, both are equal in all other respects. Which would you buy? Why? If you avoided no. 44 and you say lucky numbers don't work, isn't that a contradiction? if price is same ofcourse choose the 'safer' option. Just in case.
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TSBeastboy
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May 7 2010, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(teongpeng @ May 7 2010, 08:56 PM) ppl want nice number because its associated with status. if u got 8888 number plate ppl will think u are some kinda rich bugger and have better impression of you. ppl with random number like 4592 or sumthing pppl will say...what la this cheapskate spend a bit ma...buy better numbers. Something like that. Yup I get wat u mean. The belief in lucky numbers is still the root cause behind that. JPJ smart. They know you are willing to pay to get lucky number so they auction it. So no surprise, if u got any of those 'magic' numbers, then u must be rich enough to bid. Its amazing, everyone I know don't believe in lucky numbers but they all play safe as you say, ha ha.
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Alone
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May 7 2010, 10:21 PM
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i'd rather buy no. 1 it's much more worth the money compared to 8888
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faceless
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May 10 2010, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(abubin @ May 7 2010, 06:50 PM) you see.. that is evidence that these are bullshit. Malays like 4 because dapat but 4 is bad for chinese. So, does that means the numbers can recognize it's owner to be chinese or malay and then work it's magic? LOL What I am saying is bad or good numbers are determined by cultures. Caucasians think of 13 as an unlucky number. For chinese 13 is a good number.
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jaclynjac
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May 10 2010, 11:28 AM
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Pak Lah said before his lucky number is 13, all his belonging with 13 as well, including his car number.
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Darkripper
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May 10 2010, 12:00 PM
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I do believe in lucky number... not because i believe that the number will bring me the luck, but it just make me have more confidence and feel more comfortable during competition and etc....
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abubin
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May 10 2010, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(faceless @ May 10 2010, 09:33 AM) What I am saying is bad or good numbers are determined by cultures. Caucasians think of 13 as an unlucky number. For chinese 13 is a good number. Culture or religion or race, if 13 is considered good for one person then change owner to someone else becomes bad??? Numbers know their owner and works good or bad according to their owner? Psychological effects sure that I can accept. Like you get your favourite number eg, 13 it boost you confidence in your badminton match. But when people go overboard and say stuffs like 13 I will get into accident then it's too much already. No pyschological effects involved, just relating a number to a random event that will bound to happen to someone. Another example, if 13 is so good for person A, then he/she can go bet in number 13 only in casino and win money lah. Why need to work so hard? Oh no..it doesn't work this way..then how? It works only when you can relate the number for something good or bad in your life? That again is mumbo jumbo stuffs related to same concept of god and religion.
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robertngo
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May 10 2010, 10:09 PM
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this is human nature that always trying to find patent and meaning in stuffs that often dont have meaning.
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TSBeastboy
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May 11 2010, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(robertngo @ May 10 2010, 10:09 PM) this is human nature that always trying to find patent and meaning in stuffs that often dont have meaning. True. One thing about Malaysians that's a bit different though. If you start pondering about the meaning of things, people start seeing you as an oddball with an undesirable trait of thinking too much. People always tell me: just do lar, u think so much what for? Even people with masters degrees tell me this!
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faceless
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May 11 2010, 10:01 AM
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Abubin, I did not say number are lucky or unlucky. I said people are taught what numbers are lucky or unlucky by the upbringing. I never had 4 in my life (eg student number, house number, phone no, car no, ic number, military no, birthdates ...). I don not consider myself lucky or unlucky.
I would agree with you that the luck element will not change because of change in ownership. You would also be surprise how the sum total of phychological effects can affect bad or good. Wall Street observers found market had a tendency to be bad on Friday the 13.
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rockets
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May 11 2010, 12:27 PM
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The same can be said about religion.
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abubin
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May 11 2010, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(faceless @ May 11 2010, 10:01 AM) Abubin, I did not say number are lucky or unlucky. I said people are taught what numbers are lucky or unlucky by the upbringing. I never had 4 in my life (eg student number, house number, phone no, car no, ic number, military no, birthdates ...). I don not consider myself lucky or unlucky. I would agree with you that the luck element will not change because of change in ownership. You would also be surprise how the sum total of phychological effects can affect bad or good. Wall Street observers found market had a tendency to be bad on Friday the 13. Yup, the upbringing play a big role on a person's mentality. Because our parents or grandparents believed in such a thing, we end up believing as well. As society advance into more and more logical way of thinking, less and less people will believe in such a thing. As for the Friday 13, wall street market is worst if because in US, majority of the people believe in Friday 13 being a bad luck day. Therefore, they might sell short or not do trading on that day. Thus this effects can be seen as a whole. Again, using this as example, does such market trend occur in India or China? No it does not. Therefore it further prove that it is more human factor than divine stuffs.
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faceless
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May 11 2010, 04:48 PM
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I did not say divine stuff. I said some total of phychological effect which means every one belief and sell as you put it.
Added on May 11, 2010, 4:48 pmsorry SUM total not SOME total
This post has been edited by faceless: May 11 2010, 04:48 PM
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abubin
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May 11 2010, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(faceless @ May 11 2010, 04:48 PM) I did not say divine stuff. I said some total of phychological effect which means every one belief and sell as you put it. Added on May 11, 2010, 4:48 pmsorry SUM total not SOME total It doesn't matter if you said divine stuffs or not. Those who believe in something that is baseless and cannot be proven scientifically means it is something divine. Cause the only way it will happen like the person believe is when something divine happening. There might be lots of things happening in this world that we still cannot prove but lucky numbers are certainly a mumbo jumbo. Whichever you believe, you must have your own reason. This post has been edited by abubin: May 11 2010, 05:30 PM
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cozeyzero
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May 13 2010, 05:38 PM
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8383 is it lucky number?? hihihi..
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teongpeng
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May 13 2010, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(cozeyzero @ May 13 2010, 05:38 PM) 8383 is it lucky number?? hihihi.. lucky number not like that see wan. must see your birthchart and your compatibility also.
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C-Note
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May 13 2010, 09:23 PM
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joey yap said theres no such thing as lucky number
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robertngo
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May 13 2010, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(teongpeng @ May 13 2010, 07:33 PM) lucky number not like that see wan. must see your birthchart and your compatibility also. how can the birthchart possibly determine your luck?
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C-Note
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May 14 2010, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(robertngo @ May 13 2010, 11:00 PM) how can the birthchart possibly determine your luck? why is the earth round and not square?
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TSBeastboy
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May 26 2010, 06:00 PM
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If this doesn't convince everyone that numbers are lucky, I don't know what will. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news...n-10-years.html"A mobile phone company has suspended the number 0888 888 888 – after every single person assigned to it died in the last 10 years."
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VMSmith
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May 26 2010, 06:09 PM
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Holy shite, I'm so going to share this on Facebook!
It would be even more dire for us Chinese if it was all 4s.
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ComposMentis
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May 26 2010, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(Beastboy @ May 26 2010, 06:00 PM) If this doesn't convince everyone that numbers are lucky, I don't know what will. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news...n-10-years.html"A mobile phone company has suspended the number 0888 888 888 – after every single person assigned to it died in the last 10 years."  wow so many 8,chinese would die for this number
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VMSmith
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May 26 2010, 06:12 PM
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Maybe this piece of news should be part of the "Bad Karma" thread as well. Added on May 26, 2010, 6:14 pmQUOTE(C-Note @ May 14 2010, 12:50 AM) why is the earth round and not square? Uh...because gravity pulls everything around it with equal strength? This post has been edited by VMSmith: May 26 2010, 06:14 PM
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teongpeng
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May 26 2010, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(robertngo @ May 13 2010, 11:00 PM) how can the birthchart possibly determine your luck? thats something to be explored aint it?
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ComposMentis
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May 26 2010, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(VMSmith @ May 26 2010, 06:12 PM) Maybe this piece of news should be part of the "Bad Karma" thread as well. Added on May 26, 2010, 6:14 pmUh...because gravity pulls everything around it with equal strength? not equal actually,the strength of gravity is stronger at poles so the earth does not look like a perfect circle but instead has an oval shape This post has been edited by ComposMentis: May 27 2010, 02:11 AM
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VMSmith
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May 27 2010, 01:53 AM
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Yeap.
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faceless
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May 27 2010, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(VMSmith @ May 26 2010, 06:12 PM) Maybe this piece of news should be part of the "Bad Karma" thread as well. Added on May 26, 2010, 6:14 pmUh...because gravity pulls everything around it with equal strength? Good answer Smith. This is the best answer to that question. Yes logical
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abubin
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May 27 2010, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(ComposMentis @ May 26 2010, 11:47 PM) not equal actually,the strength of gravity is stronger at poles so the earth does not look like a perfect circle but instead has an oval shape but that is due to earth axis being a little slanted towards the sun's gravity.
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ComposMentis
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May 28 2010, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ May 27 2010, 12:56 PM) but that is due to earth axis being a little slanted towards the sun's gravity. thanks for correcting but to be more precise it's due to the rotation of the earth , right?
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rocket_jet
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May 28 2010, 06:36 PM
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every numbers is good. depends on which is your favorite...just like colors
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ComposMentis
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May 29 2010, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(rocket_jet @ May 28 2010, 06:36 PM) every numbers is good. depends on which is your favorite...just like colors you might change your mind after reading this http://www.ndtv.com/news/world/mobile-numb...years-27923.php
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soul2soul
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May 29 2010, 10:27 AM
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never strike Toto....
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ComposMentis
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May 29 2010, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ May 29 2010, 10:27 AM) it all depends on luck + a little bit of intuition on the number
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SUSDeadlocks
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May 30 2010, 12:19 PM
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Do people get lucky by choosing a lucky number, or did they get themselves the lucky number simply because they are PLAIN lucky?
Try to think the other way around, you know, just for kicks.
This post has been edited by Deadlocks: May 30 2010, 12:20 PM
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SUSseller009
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May 30 2010, 12:35 PM
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This post has been edited by marsalee: Nov 8 2010, 01:01 PM
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SUSDeadlocks
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May 30 2010, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(marsalee @ May 30 2010, 12:35 PM) i dunno 1 thing i know happy go lucky Exactly. People can be just as lucky and happy without even the need of "lucky numbers". But no, some "cult" insisted that this particular happy fellow go lucky simply has a motha-freaking huge collection of lucky numbers in his house.
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ComposMentis
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May 31 2010, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ May 30 2010, 12:43 PM) Exactly. People can be just as lucky and happy without even the need of "lucky numbers". But no, some "cult" insisted that this particular happy fellow go lucky simply has a motha-freaking huge collection of lucky numbers in his house. + 1 for that
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kennie
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Jun 1 2010, 12:56 AM
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actually it just happen naturally. what is a lucky number? its a number that brings luck to you? or you personally experience something lucky which related with that number, or simply because of that particular numbers follows you or appear in your sight or related with anything about you in your life. So of course indirectly you will fall in love with that numbers. another reason would be the financial value, the intangible value which recognize by the society.
Its just a natural habit, human being tends to avoid anything which related with something they fear with. Such like the number of 4 for chinese, it is natural for human being to fear of dead, so indirectly we, the human will try to avoid them.
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objectifyme
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Jun 1 2010, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(kennie @ Jun 1 2010, 12:56 AM) actually it just happen naturally. what is a lucky number? its a number that brings luck to you? or you personally experience something lucky which related with that number, or simply because of that particular numbers follows you or appear in your sight or related with anything about you in your life. So of course indirectly you will fall in love with that numbers. another reason would be the financial value, the intangible value which recognize by the society. Its just a natural habit, human being tends to avoid anything which related with something they fear with. Such like the number of 4 for chinese, it is natural for human being to fear of dead, so indirectly we, the human will try to avoid them. But if the number 4 in Chinese means death, but something good in Malay? What does that mean? That the numbers work according to what race you are or the language you speak? I don't think so. I think it's just a mental obsession with numbers because society promotes it. Just my opinion. I don't believe in lucky numbers. This post has been edited by objectifyme: Jun 1 2010, 09:26 AM
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ComposMentis
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Jun 1 2010, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(objectifyme @ Jun 1 2010, 09:25 AM) But if the number 4 in Chinese means death, but something good in Malay? What does that mean? That the numbers work according to what race you are or the language you speak? I don't think so. I think it's just a mental obsession with numbers because society promotes it. Just my opinion. I don't believe in lucky numbers.  yea just like 13 is a bad number in some countries
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objectifyme
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Jun 1 2010, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(ComposMentis @ Jun 1 2010, 09:31 AM) yea just like 13 is a bad number in some countries  Is it a good number here?
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ComposMentis
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Jun 1 2010, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(objectifyme @ Jun 1 2010, 09:47 AM) Is it a good number here?  for chinese ,yes it is
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objectifyme
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Jun 1 2010, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(ComposMentis @ Jun 1 2010, 09:48 AM) for chinese ,yes it is  What does it mean? I've only ever heard of 8 being a good number.
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TSBeastboy
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Jun 1 2010, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(objectifyme @ Jun 1 2010, 09:25 AM) But if the number 4 in Chinese means death, but something good in Malay? What does that mean? That the numbers work according to what race you are or the language you speak? I think so. Its autosuggestion, aka self fulfilling prophecy. Try this bowling alley experiment. Keep saying to yourself, "sei lor" when you throw the ball. You might find it landing in the gutter most of the time. Now try to play another game and tell yourself "strike" when you throw the ball. Quite likely you won't do as bad. If you got money and time, you can repeat the experiment 10-20 times and see the results for yourself. What the number sounds like in your language can make all the difference. To cancel out the effects in any language, simple. Just don't believe in it.
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objectifyme
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Jun 1 2010, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(Beastboy @ Jun 1 2010, 09:51 AM) I think so. Its autosuggestion, aka self fulfilling prophecy. Try this bowling alley experiment. Keep saying to yourself, "sei lor" when you throw the ball. You might find it landing in the gutter most of the time. Now try to play another game and tell yourself "strike" when you throw the ball. Quite likely you won't do as bad. If you got money and time, you can repeat the experiment 10-20 times and see the results for yourself. What the number sounds like in your language can make all the difference. To cancel out the effects in any language, simple. Just don't believe in it. If you're putting it that way, then yes. I agree that it would have an effect on you. But I believe that's just having confidence in whatever you're doing. If you don't have confidence in making the shot, you most likely won't. It doesn't really have anything to do with numbers as numbers don't automatically do anything good or bad for/to you.
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ComposMentis
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Jun 1 2010, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(objectifyme @ Jun 1 2010, 09:50 AM) What does it mean? I've only ever heard of 8 being a good number.  13 carries almost the same tone as 'sure live(more like bringing great luck to your life)' in cantonese , so this is why chinese are so fond of this number This post has been edited by ComposMentis: Jun 1 2010, 11:31 AM
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miraclejustin
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Jun 1 2010, 11:27 AM
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I dont believe in lucky number. But i believe that if you feel good about things, good things will come to you eventually.
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TSBeastboy
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Jun 1 2010, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(ComposMentis @ Jun 1 2010, 11:25 AM) 13 carries almost the same tone as 'sure live(more like bringing great luck to your life)' in cantonese , so this is why chinese love this kind of number so much  If you've traveled to Hong Kong before, you'll notice most buildings don't have 13th floor. Got floor 11, 12, 12A, 14. I asked my hotel concierge before and he said floor 13 will attract ghosts.
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ComposMentis
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Jun 1 2010, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(Beastboy @ Jun 1 2010, 11:32 AM) If you've traveled to Hong Kong before, you'll notice most buildings don't have 13th floor. Got floor 11, 12, 12A, 14. I asked my hotel concierge before and he said floor 13 will attract ghosts.  really? wow that opens up my eyes
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