hihi come let me share you some more pictures of my watches



lol i am a fond lover for franck muller watches >.<

Damasko new watches with new A 35 movement and Silicon escapment

Stowa A10 is a movement they buy from Soprod.
The same A 10 could be found in http://www.orangewatchcompany.com/milsub/index.php
Soprod made these A 10 to compete with ETA 2892

the Damasko movement would have alot of tech innovation. eg
-  EPS® spring
-  four-point ball bearing
-  Silicium escapement
- Double-eccentric ratcheted winding system

maybe thats why these watches prices cost EUR$2990. in terms of tech they seem to a head of Sinn now.

from watchprosite

Soprod made the A-10 as a direct replacement for ETA 2892. The width dimensions are the same between the 2892, 2824, and A-10, so the same hands and dials one used for ETA movements can also be used for the A-10, but the A-10 is 1 mm thicker than the 2824, so casing modifications may be necessary. It has a 42 hour power reserve and hacking seconds.

oops sorry didn't know how to use the system here

i think this will do it

lol i took it using my iphone but all of those i bought from franck muller klcc and sincere klcc the sinn watch i bought from germany

&idThe ETA 2892 is facing alot of competition

Selita SW300 is design to compete in this market too. Soprod may end up dominating the higher end market.
http://www.sellita.ch/index.php?option=com...emid=23〈=en

just looked at SW200 data sheet. i am surprise that my CW 600 movement is a top grade! the Incabloc shock absorber explained in the user manual did help me ID that. somehow on the forum ppl kept saying no grading from Selita.

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Added on August 1, 2010, 8:30 am

The creation of new movements came about due to Swatch Group's policy not to sell unfinished movements in part to combat what Swatch groups claim to be the counterfeiting of their watches.

For several years smaller watch makers have purchased the following movements:-

1. The ETA for automatic watches
2. The Unitas for mechanical &
3. The Valjoux for chronographs

This has the advantage of allowing the smaller makers to ramp up quickly & lower their costs of R & D . By standardizing the movements, it allowed Swatch to lower the costs of production & revive the Swiss watch industry.

The consolidation of the Swiss watch industry by Swatch & Richemont effectively created a duopoly in horological circles.

We first saw this with Rolex creation of their own in-house movement for the Daytona Chronograph after Zenith was acquired by one of the two majors.

The above movements have been around for several decades & despite what watch snobs refer to as the lack of purity of certain brands due to their use of the above generic movements, I would argue that these movements are reliable & proven. Speaking from personal experience, some of my watches that use these generic movements are more reliable than some in house movements from high end watch manufacturers. I have taken the step of substituting some of my older watches with these movements for daily use & inserting the original movements when I decide to sell or trade the watch.

There were allegations & rumors around European watch circles that individuals were purchasing cases & dials from spare part suppliers & inserting ETA or Unitas into them.

A good example is Panerai where the previous mechanical movement was in fact a Unitas. Some enterprising individuals noticed this & started buying Panerai parts from Ebay & assembling them with Unitas movements . All well & fine until the purchasers took the watches for service to authorized repair centres !!

The use of third party movements as well as the swapping of movements has historical precedents.

The early (& very collectible ) Dunhills & Cartier watches used IWC & LeCoutre movements, early versions of Tudor watches had Rolex movements .

There were incidents of Tudor owners purchasing Rolex cases & swapping the movements across which resulted in savings of up to 70% over buying the Rolex versions of the watch. Rolex subsequently replaced the Rolex decorated movements & phased out their movements completely from Tudor to prevent customers from arbitraging from this.

The late Nicholas Hayek claims that this will help spawn innovation in the watch industry. There is some truth in that more independent manufacturers are coming out with in-house movements but still depend on the big two for a vast majority of their parts. It remains to be seen if Swatch will also restrict the sale of parts & caused the independents to be  "manufacturer" in the true sense of the term.

As for me a collector, hobbyist & consumer, the strategic move by Swatch may result in higher costs of procuring mechanical watches & having to put up with the questionable reliability of these new in house movements.

These represent my personal views and is not to be construed as a criticism of Swatch's strategic intent or to cast doubts on the reliability of the new in house movements .

In my mind, a watch should not only tell time but do so reliably & accurately.

that sounds like a description for Quartz watches.

Patryn ( & CK)

I heard that the no date Rolex Submariners ( 14060 M) are no longer in production . I was hoping to verify this as I came across an AD who has a few "old new stock " ( One was not COSC certified ) .

Might be very collectable if this is correct as prices for obsoleted Rolex models have reached stratospheric proportions , Zenith movement Daytonas, the old Milgauss & Sea Dweller , to name a few.

Any information you have on this would be appreciated.

Thanks

Well the vendor wanted RM18K for the version without the COSC certification!! . Have to think long & hard first before moving ahead with the purchase. The non-date Subs are no longer featured on Rolex's web catalogue which may have given rise to the rumor of it's impending obsolescence .

It is an AD & he has an extensive range ( including the green glass Milgauss &  Steel black face Daytona ) . I suspect he is a major purchaser of Rolex as it is rumored that Rolex will allocate a certain number of sport watches per order of regular range watches.

The COSC versions are slightly cheaper before discount but I agree that the one to get is the non-COSC version which is already very collectible .

Given the easy availability of information, these AD's know that they are sitting on an asset that will appreciate in time.

Came across a Steve McQueen Explorer ( the version with the orange second time zone arrow ) in immaculate condition with full box & papers in HK the other day. The prices asked were closed to what a mid range Patek retails for!!

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Added on August 5, 2010, 9:22 am

Steel is preferable in the circumstances. Gold plated tends to wear off in this climate given the high humidity here.

Does the milgauss come with a date version ?

I have this Longine. RM8 - 9k retail about a year back. It's a 42mm. Nice understated classic watch. Besides the font which I dig, I loved the way the seconds hand moves - like a Rolex.
Too bad no date on the Milgauss, I saw the green crystal one and always wondered if there was a date version.  I could be wrong, but I think most of the IWC watches are also magneticlly shielded - I know the Ingenier is, but the price range is different !  Somehow I think the Rolex will retain better value though.

got my watch today. it was so beauty   
no experience when adjusting the watch time, thought have broke it. 

haha I guess I meant it's a continuous sweeping movement.

I'm a real newbie in these matters, but I think how fast the "seconds" hand moves is driven by how many oscillations per second. 25,000+ me thinks.

Frequency: Amplitude, in the case of mechanical watches refers to how many times an hour the watch goes tick for a given time period! It is often referred to as half-swings per hour or beats per hour (BPH). Thus a watch beating at an amplitude of 28,800 per hour ticks 8 times per second.

care to share their movement? look simple though..

possible around 200?
what's the difference between auto and manual?

Hey guys. Hoping to find someone who's familiar-ish with the cost of servicing Tag autos.

My Tag Carrera (pic attached in spoiler below) has recently gone a little wonky, in that:-
1) it doesn't seem to keep power all that well anymore (power reserve down from 44 hours to under 12 hours, even lost a couple hours of time when sitting in winder once) and
2) the crown's rather difficult to pull out and winding is horrendously coarse

I took it to Tag's service centre last week and they quoted me RM1350 for an overhaul on the movement plus RM160 for a new crown, all in for a handsome sum of RM1510. A tad pricey for a watch which retails for a little under 10k.

I'm contemplating sending it to an external watchmaker for servicing (ie Watches of Switzerland, to name one), would anyone be able to advise on the cost and quality of such watchmakers?

Thanks

@CK77 have U see est of cost done by TSC and another watchsmith in Summit USJ? Can share these info?

@ck77 and patryn33
Had the watch for 2 years and 2 months-ish (warranty was 2 years, just passed it sigh).

WoS wanted me to leave the watch with them for a few days as they have to send it to their workshop to diagnose the problems. Tag service centre managed to open the thing and have a good look at it within 15 minutes.

Another friend of mind also recommended me to check out Summit, so looks like I'll have to hit both Summit and Amcorp one of these days

Anyone knows if they're able to hit me with a quotation on the spot?

This is my IWC watch.....
Anyone interested ? I may sell it to someone who appreciate this watch. ( PM me )