Great stuff, man! T.sub male fighting certainly holds a lot of promise. Just that there wasn't much emphasis on them before this. The merging of different fs cultures between Hongkong and Singapore certainly paid off!

Bro Randy, you know, you always post so many clips... I can't watch them all but having recommendations is really ingenious of you. Your recommended clips are really SUPERB stuff!(posted a couple of comments in youtube itself). And my oh my, your channel have 700 clips just on fs fighting?!

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Nov 30 2011, 02:22 AM

Ura, while it is not correct me to judge you(by right, at all and even less so if I only interact with you online), I suppose some of your actions towards other fs kakis must be rubbing them the wrong way to warrant such comments on you by err...this new unidentified forumer here.

The main point I want to advice here is that we should always try be objective in our views and try as much as possible not to be bias.

I can see that you do often praise and give good comments and credit to others. But on top of that, We should give credit to others where credit is due EVEN IF IT MEANS showing our weaknesses(in this case, showing clips of fights even if our fs lost badly, esp when you are the only one having the video).
For example, in the first tread even when my team of fs, which I advertised so much, lost terribly to viper's team, it is only right that I post them as such and comment as I would comment as if NONE of the fs were mine. This is what is being objective about. In this way, people will know they can have a fair share of rewards(ie. showing their fs won the fights) according to their efforts(in catching, training their fs and bringing them to matches). This is what meritocracy is about. If you do this, people will be attracted to share the hobby with you and not resent you.

I think Viper, when he first commented on T.sub fights, was only giving an objective view from what he and everybody else can see from the clips which were available at that time. I think everyone here agrees that "The bigger T.sub species will most likely win a fight against a T.bha but it is not a 100% thing." No point trying to "proof" anything. A one-off challenge(as a form of jokingly gesture) is acceptable but continued taunting is really childish and unnecessary. It is akeen to bullying. Come on, We all know T.sub is bigger and more heavily built and "likely" to pawn T.bha if it wants to. Just that it is not 100% thing and also there are clips that clearly show T.sub at times can be shy. I personally think it is high time Xarms stop taunting Viper for a "challenge" but of course we can't control other people's action. I see that you have stop doing that lately, just hope you can do your part in not faning the fire between Xarms and Viper and start to built a bridge instead.

Also, in my opinion, I don't see you as "bragging" about T.subs(I see them as good contributions) and I think the third paragraph by (new forumer) is really quite unnecessary. But I think because your other actions(eg earlier taunting Viper for challenge against T.bha/or maybe some other things you may have said or done which I don't know about or could be the WAY you did certain things) may have cause some other fs kakis to be unhappy that's why they will resent everything you do. Just like you have shown that you have the skills to be a leader in bringing new information to the hobby, hopefully you can acquire the skills in also being a leader to people, bringing kakis together rather that breaking them up. And often it means letting others share the limelight at the expense of ours. And sometimes it may mean simply to let go.

My hope for this forum is that it is dominated by more positive aspects which builds the hobby rather that negative postings and squabbles. Sometimes some negative postings(as long as they are honest) are necessary but if left unchecked and carry on for too long, may cause some people to be "sian" and leave the group, or worse still, leave the hobby or cause newcomers to decide not to join. I believe all fs kakis would prefer a more happy tone to the forum and welcome a larger fs community.

Peace.

Sorry to reply late because last week i had trouble logging onto internet at night(only time i'm free to log on) due to daily night rain(dunno why but when it rains, my internet keep disconnecting) , and then this week i had been busy preparing for my stocktake.

I really don't want to drag this on seeing that everybody here have already moved on with the more positive aspects of our beloved hobby.

But for completeness sake, i will make a short reply.

No, Bro Ura, I cannot give answers to all your questions. I believe that you can see that the accusations brought against you is by the unknown person and any defence by you against those accusations should be directed at that person. I was merely advicing on what I read as well as seeing how you responded(which i didn't see u defending urself against those accusations in your reply to the unknown person). If you feel i was accusing you, then please accept my apologies as I am not. Let me clarify that i'm only advising base on the assumption that the accusations are true. If they are not, then I take back my words directed at you and consider them as general advice for all kakis. I believe that you and whoever is accusing you should be the clearest regarding this issue(of video postings).

Thank you for your kind words on me, but I am not God... not even a detective. I believe if the unknown person does not want to reveal himself then it is impossible for anyone to know who he is. Yes, as I mentioned, I agree with you that some of the words used by the unknown person were unnecessary. We should all use constructive criticisms, if need be, and not insults.

I suppose that because you feel that you are the victim here, you won't let this go easily. But my suggestion is that you try to, if not for all other kakis sake, at least for your own sake, because unresolved grudges will only eat you alive. It is better you channel any negative energy(eg anger or whatever) into something positive that can bring our fs hobby to new heights.

Let's remember that our hobby is about fighting spiders, not fighting people. I don't know who started it first(maybe Bro Koppao), but when the first sg guys joined this forum, they addressed each other as "Bro", something which I really admire for its politeness and respectfulness, regardless of how young/old the addressee is. It is a good thing it caught on with everybody and hopefully this fs "Brotherhood" will be preserved as long as our fs hobby is alive.

Cheers and peace



This post has been edited by mindstorm: Dec 8 2011, 03:42 AM

Yeah, thanks a lot for visiting us and allowing me to witness such a historical event, a malaysian L T.bha confronting a Hongkong T.sub. Never a waste of time to indulge in one of the things I enjoy most. It was a great pleasure to meet another fs kaki like you and an honour to be among you guys. I was impressed with your "bag of imports" and a big thanks to you for your presents, a Malaysian "T-sub"(or T-sub look alike) female and Berneldus given to you by Bro Ura! This i must say a bigger thanks to Bro Ura.

My Christmas Presents!
Berneldus

T-sub look alike from Muar(actual size about same as a big T.bha female)

At last! Thanks Bro Viper for uploading the matches, with sound effects and all! Your Hyperion is really a brave fs, dare to confront such a monstrous size distance cousin. I still remember Bro Jason's reaction when Bro Rudy took out his T.sub...his face was quite stoned and I think he uttered something like..."Walan eh..."

Anyway, having witness the face-offs, I can see that in reality, both species are actually quite reluctant to engage each other. Having many experiences trying to face different types of jumpers with each other and seeing their reactions, I can see that it is quite the same with T.bha and T.sub. It is only after many attempts to get them to spar with each other that Hyperion, after being psyched up, finally did try to spar with both the T.subs. The fact remains that both are different species and I believe that should they encounter each other in the wild, then it is a 99.99% thing that both will go about their ways without fighting. Chances is of course T.bha will make way for the much bigger T.sub.

Having said that, that day we also witnessed that a T.bha chopster(actually according to Bro Jason, it was only partial) is certainly a force to reckon with, at the very least in terms of spirit in this case. Bro Jason's partial chopster very daringly tried to chop the larger T.sub, but in the end the effect was no-effect.
Here's the clips(sorry for no-so-good quality because taken from my old camera but can see quite clear the attempts and hear the comments)
http://youtu.be/8xof-nfdkl4

Lastly thanks to Bro Jason for coordinating the meet up and letting us use his new beautiful home for fs sparing!

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Added on December 15, 2011, 2:54 amWah, bro BTL, really impressive place you have there going... a place specially set up and plants planted just for fs!

Eh..don't mind me asking you...what place is that actually..your backyard or you mentioned you have a orchid nursery and that is part of it?

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Dec 15 2011, 03:04 AM

Another scientific study on jumping spider fighting

Weapon Size Matters to Male Spiders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUP8e1-etAg

Hi, welcome!
The Ghost is getting old i think, not moving too actively. As Bro Ricky said, fighting different species of spiders rarely will yield much show, because different species tend to avoid each other rather than engage in a fight. Either that or one will get eaten...haha!

Anyway hope you enjoy yourself in this forum and if possible relive your childhood passion and join in the fun!
Actually old man, young man or small boy doesn't matter... just a hobby or pastime. Just like surfing internet, going for a swim, reading a book, playing cards(which some of us will do coming this CNY), playing with a dog, watching TV or any other pastime. As long as you enjoy yourself and it is not a crime, why not?
Well really up to you but i'm sure our sg veterans(got others not seen in this forum too) won't mind accompany you on a hunt and showing you some of their favourite spots. Or just go meet them and be spectator for their almost weekly grand slams. Sure enjoy!

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Added on January 1, 2012, 1:55 amViper, thanks for the great write up and prompt uploads of that day's meetup. Cool to see all the fights including some of our funny chat about the fs.

Oh yes, someone must challenge Jason's war cry of victory....!

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Jan 1 2012, 01:55 AM

Wow wow wow!

First, Bro Randy, i must say this format of writing is really superb, just like sports programs...u first introduced all fs bros and their team of gladitors with some comments.
This makes it very clear to the reader which fs belongs to which bro, how many fs each bro is bringing to the stage, and after knowing a little bit of the background of the fs, makes the reader want to find out which fs and which bro will emerge as champ.
Also the matches built up is very exciting too.
Of course this meet up is also rather unique in that so many bros show up with so many known powerhouse fses and also the presence 2 foreign talents - HK tbha and Red Devil.
I watched every match!

Kudos to bro Ricky for practically sweeping the house clean with his LOL, Rotweller, King Kong and Fatso.
Can see Fatso is a very healthy and steady chopster. However Kuantuan seemed to have lost his fire.
Also Cyclone is a fierce fighter, brutal... (if i'm not mistaken which is which fs - against Faris The Boss)
Bro Ricky is starting the new year with a high bar. The man to beat.

I am impressed with Seng's Killer, very good and aggresive fighter. Just that Rotweller is just as good and have strong defense and the better fs won.
In the same breath I have to say that the staying power of the large fses - Overlord, Guiness Stout and Changi was a tad disappointing.
It shows a fs will to win is more important than size.
Ura's Gold Hair, HK's tbha representative didn't put up much of a show too this time. Maybe passed his prime? But this is just one individual, and I'm sure from the HK Tbha team there is more to come...

Thanks for the dedication of Red Devil's fight. Very interesting as well as exciting! This rarer species shows just as much potential as our common T.bha in putting up a good show in the fighting ring. Best of all, its fighting style, although very slightly different, integrates well with our common Tbha. If only there is more of them. Looks like the onus is on Rudy to champion this species. Who knows how big is the biggest Red Devil species. And we have yet to see Red Devil vs Red Devil.

All in all, a great meetup, great and interesting matches, a great writeup and excellent clips!
Thanks to all bros who made it possible for everyone to watch!

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Added on January 3, 2012, 1:13 amBigHead wasn't the longest for me. I think he lived to about 3 and a half months(after last moult).

The longest i had was i think almost 5 months(after last moult) before it expired.
Here he is at around 4 months 1 week. (the one armed fs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOlGU8b7e8...7XuZUa8PiaMHC8r
Although no longer able to fight well but still look quite active and healthy.

I write "after last moult" to mean that does not include the stage from baby sling to adulthood. That would add another 3 months or so.
I think Bro Ura has a documented record in longest-living spider in captivity - his Tsub. Possible he can enlighten u on his past Tbha record in captivity too.

Their size is about the same as fs but much tougher. The females will practically eat any other same size or even bigger jumping spider that crosses her path.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Jan 3 2012, 10:16 AM

omg
despite being associated with university scientists and professors, i think they got that wrong.
probably that posting wasn't peer reviewed

NO way that is a genus thiania
More like telamonia dimidiata male
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telamonia_dimidiata
Kept a similar species myself before Telamonia festiva, which is quite common in parks and even gardens near forested areas

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Jan 10 2012, 12:00 PM

Wah, hope you have luck there man. Got females also sapu hor... seems very hard to get Tbha females there. Give me if you don't want them

So 'sai kung' in HK is a good hunting place? You go east or west side?

Here is some interesting facts i gathered out of my curiousity after i noticed that the Tsub given to me survived better and was more healthy and active than the Thianias given to me by Ricky which he caught in Cameron and also compared the ones i got from Sabah which is actually from KKpark. Ricky, Ura and me seems to be of agreement that the highland fs looked somewhat slow and lethargic and didn't survive long. Same with the ones i got from KKpark. It sparked me to wonder why and I think it is something to do with the air pressure differences rather than with the temperature differences between their natural habitat and where we bring them to which is lowland.

Elevations
Singapore
bukit timah peak is 163m

Hong kong
Sharp Peak, the highest hill in Eastern Sai Kung with the height of 468m
Sai Kung West country park - 150m

Malaysia
bukit tinggi, selangor 800m-1000(Viper's Rindaman - looks quite active also)
tapah hills, perak 927m
kinabalu park, sabah 1500m(ones i caught)
cameron highlands 1300-1800m(Ricky's Tcam)
Genting peak 1860 m

Air pressure
At sea level air pressure is 101.3 kPa (absolute).
There is a 10kPa drop(about 10%) in air pressure at 1000m

From this website
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-alti...sure-d_462.html
Can see that at 152m(~Bukit Timah), 305m and 457m(~East Sai Kung highest peak) is 99.5, 97.7 and 96.0 kPa respectively, which is quite small difference in air pressure compared to sea level.

Or for simplicity sake, there is an air pressure drop of about
6% drop at 600m
10% drop at 1000m
15% drop at 1500m

In conclusion we can see that Thianias caught around elevation of 500m or below should be able to adapt well to sea level environment as accounted for the Tbha and Tsub gotten from Hongkong as the air pressure differences is small. Here we can also conclude temperature differences is not an issue as Hongkong Tbha and Tsub are doing terrifically well in hot Singapore! Thianias caught around 500m to 1000m is still inconclusive as we only have Viper's Rindaman to see but it seems to be doing ok. We are also not sure of the elevation where Ricky caught his fses from "halfway" of Genting, although they too seem to be doing ok. Lastly it seems that those caught above 1300m like the ones in Cameron and KKpark are not able to adapt well to the increase in air pressure when brought to lowland.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Jan 17 2012, 08:03 AM

Wah... so many fights up for this CNY! Unprecedented. Thanks to Viper and Randy for doing all the uploading!

Really had a fun outing with 3 king hunters on Thursday... Bro Ricky, Uncle Kim and Bro Jason, later joined by also king hunter Viper.
First hunted near Felcra since 8am to about 11pm, then went up to halfway Genting till 3pm then back down to near Melawati.
Sorry couldn't join you guys to continue hunting until night fall? i suppose and for the live fights later on. But really appreciate it to still be able to see the fights which include my sole contender caught that morning from Felcra, Commando, now under Jason's care.

Really interesting to see Tbha from 3 countries, with Hongkong Tbha again breaking into the scene after recent moulting from subadults, being showcased.

From the clips on Thursday, final top ranking seems to be
APeno (Ah Kim, Hongkong)
Hyperion (Viper, Msia)
DynaForce(Ricky, Spore)
Commando (Mindstorm/Jason, Msia)
Cyperion (Viper, Msia)

The rest not really sure of their ranking
Ricky
Sultan P
Rotweller
Nintendo
LOL
Jason
HK TBha
Genting FS
Viper
Spar

Seems to me Hyperion form improved since I last saw him in December! This shows Viper really good fs keeper. Amazing display of bravery and tenacity against an opponent so MUCH bigger than himself, the giant Hongkong fs, APeno. I was really in disbelieve first time looking live at such a thick and humongous Tbha. The size comparison in the clip, Hyperion (Viper) VsAPeno (Ah Kim), really says it all. Hyperion, a Goliath compared to normal local fs, suddenly turn into David standing side by side with APeno. Anyway, hope to see Hyperion, continue his top form for another round in Spore before his final release.

A couple of photos showing 3 king hunters sweeping clean every lily patch spotted halfway of Genting.
With 3 super seasoned "top hands", fs where got chance to hind or escape?
Beside bus station

Beside main road

Also, after a brief sharing session with Bro Jason...

Policeman also help to hunt! haha!

Nice chap actually , tell us his kampung used to have many... said that the strong ones are from pandan leaves. Hmm..if only he knew about this forum... of all the past many many fs kings we saw here, i don't remember specifically any being declared as caught from pandan leaves...haha!

Once again, thanks Uncle Kim and Bro Ricky for coming up, bringing durians as well as all ur fine fses and esp Bro Ricky for the crix and also showing ur sharp snooker skills!

Happy CNY to all and drive carefully wherever you go!

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Jan 29 2012, 02:35 AM

Yeah, it is amazing how much power Hyperion have to be able to do that...pushing Apeno backwards for quite a distance. It would be like me trying to push strongman Ricky 20 feet backwards! No chance man, not even one feet... but Hyperion did just that, mustering all his strength. Must be due to his master's eager encouragement..."Hyperion, come on, Hyperion!"
From this match, can see Ricky is right to say that Hongkong Tbha seems to be more defensive in their fighting. More towards holding their stance rather than chopping forward, which Hyperion was more geared towards. But we know this is only the begining, I hope to see more Hongkong male Tbha action as we know that there are many more newly moulted HK Tbha in incubation period in Spore... I am sure more variety of fight moves will emerge. While much deserved credit goes to Hyperion, Apeno himself actually has shown to be a good fighter and I believe has yet to reach his peak.

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Added on January 31, 2012, 2:51 amForgot to mention Master Kim gave me one of his large HK Tbha which unfortunately has lost one of his pedipalps during his last moult, which I'll name him HK1. I think HK1 is only slightly smaller that Apeno, which Master Kim feels very "sayang" for losing one of his pedipalps. But I am VERY HAPPY to have him!

Not to waste such a fine stunning FS, today, as soon as I had a bit of free time, I put him to action...not fighting action though..haha!
Hongkong male mate with Malaysian female - Thiania Bhamoensis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EByOlbIpGaY&feature=youtu.be
(my comments in youtube)

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Added on January 31, 2012, 3:03 amYeah, very happy that Commando emerged champ for the long day's catch! But Dynaforce is certainly a force to reckon with, which a think Commando still quite hard to be able to beat Dynaforce as Commando didn't really give a good enough fight against him. Then again, Commando looks fresh, so he still may have quite a bit of fighting career ahead of him.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Jan 31 2012, 03:03 AM

Woah!.. some incredible work you have done. A team of supersizers. Size category wise, barely any local ones will be able to match...the smallest you have is 7.3mm...if i'm not mistaken about Bighead size. It is interesting to see that some of the 2nd tier which is suppose to be of smaller head size according to you turn out to be longer than the first tier. Are the all the 1st tier still larger in terms of head size than the 2nd tier now that they are all adults?

For the macros, I think
1.H12- for its stance(personal preference)
2.H7- its arms looks long in the photo
3.H10 - for its out spread pedipalps
Overall, i should think the photos where the white of the male's face is fully exposed is more attractive than the ones that are not.
As for the grid photos, i don't think can really vote because they all look too similar.

The bottom fs at 0.30 certainly has a unique stance and a very aggresive attack too, just short of a jump chop that we are so familar with. Seems like a chop in the making. However, can see it still lack the stamina against the other fs.

At 1.18... wah..the size difference so big...which fs vs which fs?

Thanks for sharing. Will be looking forward to see more of their action.

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Added on February 6, 2012, 2:46 amMany interesting match ups. If i understand correctly, 1 piece from Rudy still stands as 1st king and then comes the Randy's Sword of Damocles. 3rd king have no idea. Amazing that Rudy's Red Devil still going strong. 1 piece vs Red Devil who won?

Ricky's Lol (Right) V Jason's Fearless Chopster (Left) 040212
>Interesting that Fearless Chopster tend to turn upside down. Even after the break, it immediately turn upside right after chopping, as if on purpose. Reminds me of some UFC fighters who specialize in grappling where they purposely tend to lie on the floor when fighting against a boxer.
Anyway, shouldn't it be Fearless Chopster that won?

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Added on February 6, 2012, 2:48 amhaha, thanks.
No, descendents. At that time, still very noob in breeding or raising fs. Maybe now is my chance to have a (half)descendent of a hongkong Tbha.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Feb 6 2012, 02:48 AM

Congratulations for a clean sweep by your team! Looks like HK Tbha imports are truly a class of their own, their size and thickness is simply unmatchable by our locals. I am however very impressed by Jason's Fearless Chopster and also Ricky's Guiness Stout to be able to hold up a fight against their opponent with half a head taller than them esp the former. Also, when i first saw Apeno live, I was almost speechless being in awe of its size, and if i'm not mistaken from the clip... Tempest is even (ever so slightly) bigger?! Damn....
At this moment, I should think you are most LIKELY holding the largest T.bha EVER caught among all fs kakis in the history(not just this forum) of Singapore/Malaysia fs enthusiasts....
I am curious though, to know how Apeno would stack up against your other super large HK Tbha ie where he rank in terms of fighting among the others. Your list of your 10 team members... are they ranked in terms of fighting accordingly as you numbered them(meaning 1.=1st king, 2.=2nd king etc)?

Interestingly you fought only 7(bolded) out of the 10 listed, which did not include H4, the second longest one. Also H10 and H11 would be your two third longest HK Tbhas which you didn't enlist in your team. But H2 and H3 which seems to be among the shortest(besides L5 and L6) among all that you have are ranked 2. and 3. Am I correct to say their headsize is among the largest? Also L4 which you did not list, made an appearance to fight Ricky's Sultan P.

1. Tempest - 8.7
2. H2 7.5
3. H3 7.5
4. H4 8.3
__H5 8.0
5. H6 8.1
6. H7 7.8
__H8 7.6
7. H9 8.1
__H10 8.2
__H11 8.2
8. H12 8.0
9. L1 7.8
__L2 7.9
__L3 7.8
__L4 8.0
__L5 7.4
__L6 7.3
10. L7 8.0
__L8 8.0
__L10 8.0

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Added on February 9, 2012, 1:47 amWithout doubt, you are now our Malaysian fs ambassador!
Nice!

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Feb 9 2012, 01:47 AM

Yes, the spider Bro viper saw in Cherating is the same species as the biggest spider caught by Bro Randy. Also the same species as the one Bro Ricky gave me which he caught from Genting. All are in the same stage too...and the same sex. All are subadults male Hyllus Diardi. If Bro Randy took a frontal photo of the one he caught, you would see some Santa Clause beard too. Subadult males usually look fat because they tend to eat a lot and gorge themselves to prepare for the final moult to become the biggest they can be as an adult.

The new M$0.50 coin is 27.5mm and the old M$0.20 coin is 23 mm. I should think that when Bro Viper said that it is about 50 sen size, it should include the legspan.

Here are some interesting photos and comparison photos.

A sub adult I had.

This is a sub-sub adult...2 moults to go before adult...more whitish areas.

A comparison between a subadult and a sub-subadult. Both looks same size? That's because this was a big sub-subadult.

This sub-sub adult eventually moulted into the biggest H.diardi male I had...measuring in at 18mm body length.


A comparison with a 20 sen coin

Compare to one of the first photos of a adult male H.diardi to emerge on the net from here
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...fighting+spider

Males usually have a wide range of sizes no matter how well they are fed. Some of them just mature early but small. Which I think it is to take advantage of available females to breed first. Here is a photo of the largest and smallest H.diardi males I had.

Largest Vs Berneldus... male Tsub from Bro Ura passed to be by Bro Rudy

And here are some trio pictures with a M size Tbha...which is around 6.5mm I think.



This post has been edited by mindstorm: Apr 9 2012, 07:14 AM

Perhaps one of the most evenly matched fight I've seen. Excellent match.
Who was holding the leaf? Laugh until leaf also shake while the spiders were still fighting...

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Added on May 6, 2012, 11:18 pmSo many tanks..
Bro Randy, do you know what the farmer feed the crickets with?

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Added on May 6, 2012, 11:23 pmThis looks more like yellow to me. Another interesting new species. I found one in Genting also while I went up there with Bro Ricky, Master Kim and Bro Jason.
But I think this is a small species. The adult size is smaller than tbha and the legs much thinner. Wonder how they fight.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: May 6 2012, 11:23 PM

Impressive size!!!

Those familiar with pet tropical fishes may have seen or know about snakeskin guppies and discus, both pattern which aren't really found in the wild(maybe abit but not so refined) but are results of selective breeding by fish breeders...


I'm sure not all snakes have this pattern but I think the most well known snake to which this pattern is coined after probably came from the python.


And here's a tiny jumper that carries this pattern. A small taiwanese jumper given to me by my friend Dan(aka Mangrovejumper) who caught it in an urban park during freetime in transit coming from the States. This is adult size. I kept it for some time not knowing that it has this pattern because it was so small, all along thinking just a small brown spider! Until one fine day, i took it out to play and gave it a closer look...




Perhaps some resemblance to this too...
(clouded leopard)


This post has been edited by mindstorm: Jul 11 2012, 01:19 AM

nice to see Bro Randy is back!
This one looks like 'buay steady' fight to me lol

Interesting to see some non-living spider stuff.

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Added on October 24, 2012, 2:24 amHaving an email chat with my friend Mangrovejumper living in Seattle, USA
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Brown Thiania update

Dan Lam to me
Oct 9

The brown Thiania are mostly fully grown now. It's interesting that
the males look quite similar to T. bha, other than the extra blue
strips, especially on the legs. Looks very much like Cam. Not
surprised if they're the same species. The claws of the males are
skinny. The females though, however, vary from light brown to black
(almost like T-bha female).

The sizes are smaller than T. bha. I guess you can't cheat genetics.
Compared to the documentation done by Urahinuk, these brown Thiania do
not have the same number of moults to get to adulthood. The T. sub
had 7-8 moults to adulthood, the brown Thiania only had 5. It
explains the size differences between Thiania species.

Maybe they're still pretty young but I find the total lack of
aggression mindboggling. They would fight each other when they were
babies but now no angry face...just a nonchalant acknowledgment of
each other. Or perhaps growing up in isolation in a mostly darkened
room has changed their behaviour.
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me to Dan
Oct 22 (2 days ago)

Very interesting that you manage to raise them up successfully.
Permission to repost ur email in lowyat?

Did you raise them together or individually. If raised together, it is almost guaranteed they will be 'selamba' with each other. But it would be strange if they were raised individually.

Yeah, the number of moults determine the size. Imagine having the secret to force moulting.... it's like giving growth hormones....

How many of them do you have now?

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Dan Lam to me
Oct 22 (2 days ago)

Yeah you can post my findings.

The funny thing is, I think this is similar to your Hyllus
observation. The spiders that grow up the fastest may not be the
biggest. We'd like to think of the faster growers will be the
"dominant" because they can eat bigger food the fastest, but it's not
true in reality. I just had a late moult of a female last week and
it's the biggest female that I have now. It's the size of a female T.
bha.

Unfortunately, for whatever reason, the yield of males are down. I
had 4 males and 2 quickly died (as adults) so I'm down to 2 males.
Only 1 male looked kinda normal. The rest had big round stomachs.
We'll see if there are any more late moults that are males. I suspect
I may get 1-2 more.

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Oct 24 2012, 02:24 AM

In terms of fan base for 'fighting spiders'(not necessarily Thiania) and organization, the best goes to the Japs and their Samurai Orb Weavers...
(prepare an hour if you want to watch through all the parts...which i did of course )
A shorter version regarding these spiders had been posted by Bro Viper and Krauser before in Part1 of this forum
http://www.cyberoz.net/city/sekine/spfight.htm
but the link is no longer working. This Nat Geo version is much more interesting because of the focus of the main hero in it..haha

National Geographic - Samurai Spiders -Part1-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8jZ_-8ER6o
National Geographic - Samurai Spiders -Part2-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8jZ_-8ER6o
National Geographic - Samurai Spiders -Part3-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlNabuAfLkQ&feature=relmfu
National Geographic - Samurai Spiders -Part4-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB9hXLarzts&feature=relmfu
National Geographic - Samurai Spiders -Part5-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQP8rFErDLw&feature=relmfu

Who knows... one day Nat Geo may pm Bro Randy

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Added on October 24, 2012, 2:55 amJumping spiders also fought in Japan(Carrhotus xanthogramma). Known about this before as there are other clips in youtube, but didn't know so many japs also in it....(this clip is uploaded by a Western dude filming a short clip on jap TV i think)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqaTWX88WwY
And yes they do interlock too. Another clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D2ZsX-YzGc&feature=related

This post has been edited by mindstorm: Oct 24 2012, 03:07 AM