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post May 7 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(raymond1003 @ May 7 2010, 12:25 AM)
but the rewards point quite high wo, plus the there are high acceptance of AMEX
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It is fine if you like the points. The admin fee is 2.5% on top of your forex exchange. You are practically 'paying' for your rewards, congrats!

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post May 7 2010, 05:02 AM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ May 7 2010, 01:03 AM)
nope .. they just ask me to fill in the form and sign .. then they took it and took cc as well .. fill in the slip to pay for the outstanding amount .. that all .. I dont get anything except the slip i paid ..
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SCB may be the least popular cards around but they are not the lousiest in terms of CS. You have the slip already ... it is as good as you bank in the money yourself. The reason nobody responded is because ... not many has it (not popular) and those who kept it, do not have any issues with the card.
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post May 8 2010, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(krylicius @ May 7 2010, 02:37 PM)
That is if u were to apply again at the same bank..i do doubt that banks track your application records with other banks..i applied for 3 banks,which got rejected..then instantly i applied for 2 banks..both banks approved my cc application..and it my first 2 cc..

unless of course if you got a bad credit rating.. blush.gif
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Slight add on to this info. For HSBC somehow they do track your application with other banks.
If you apply 3 cards at the same time and one of them is HSBC ... HSBC auto throw your application to the trash can.
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post May 8 2010, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ May 8 2010, 12:03 PM)
Combined Credit Limit       :   5,000.00
Combined Current Balance     :  1,731.08
Combined Available Limit     :  3,268.92

Can anyone can explain to me the Current Balance is what? How much I use or the credit I can use?
How about the the Available Limit?

Quite confusing for the terms..
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It is not confusing bro .... if you use your card and aware on how much you have been using it, it is very straight forward.
* This bank uses the terminology "Combined" to indicate total credit / debit for all the cards issued to an individual by this bank.

Combined Credit Limit : Credit limit assigned by the bank to your card or multiple cards
Combined Current Balance How much you have use. A more straight forward word would be - 'Amount owe' Banks would not say it like this coz some customers may find this word offensive - so they use any other word/term which has the same indication 'owe to the bank'
Combined Available Limit : Available credit left for you to use.

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post May 9 2010, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Shinichi @ May 9 2010, 10:42 AM)
Thanks Alex. Seems like the requirement is still high for me...  Just curious is there any Free for Life CC in SG?
Anyway I don't think it is feasible to use Msia CC in SG right?
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Generally if you are a non-native in a country, applying cc over there can be a daunting task. Expect higher income requirement, stricter paperwork, local address and proof of employment, duration of stay in country, etc. You can't really fault them ... too many defaults and people who abuse the system. I have encountered this many times ... when the foreigners leave the country, they 'forget' to pay the last cc bill which will run into the thousands.

In SG generally everyone there cancels and reapply for new card to avoid AF. I'm unaware of FFL cards in SG.
And if you are using a non-local credit card in a foreign country ... there's always the conversion + admin fee which makes it slightly more expensive. Still sometimes it still works better to your benefit as the money changer rates are worse off. In some countries, money changers charges additional conversion fees - many Malaysians unaware of this as our local money changers don't work this way.

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post May 9 2010, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Shinichi @ May 9 2010, 11:15 AM)
Thanks Hye. From first page, for overseas trans I see MBB charges 0.5% while Alliance is 0%?
I also recalled someone mentioned SCB VI rewards you more for overseas spending, is this correct? Any other CC that rewards better for overseas spending and do not need high income requirement? Sorry for asking this again as I know someone asked this before, just that I could not find this info in first page.
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No problem.
It is a good question to answer and it is not those questions that I dislike.
Yes ... you are right about MBB and Alliance. Plus although MBB charges 0.5%, many has reported that their exchange rates is quite good and in some reported they are being charged lower than official forex rates.

SCB VI rewards you 5x or 10x (on yr birthday month) for overseas spending and their CS are definitely better than your MBB CS quality. Cons for this card ... you cannot apply for it anymore even if you meet income requirements (I think it was RM180K) as they now issue it exclusively only to SCB PB customers only. Lack of support for EZ payments (if you like this) vs. MBB among others. Again ... every card has their plus and minus and I think you understand this.

I think for your requirement ... best to go for Alliance. Not so high income requirements, 0% charges for intl spendings. Note your potential shortcomings ... CS so so only, Alliance not well known to give away super CL, gifts redemption (sigh!) and hope you are not fussy about cc payment. (There's always MEPS Interbank transfer)
The next one would be MBB AMEX which give away 5x points but the admin fee for AMEX is the highest ... so I'll avoid it if I were you.

* I always laugh at those who just started using cc when they say don't want to pay Interbank fees which are RM2. In early 2000, they are RM5. You want to save on RM2 but don't mind spending petrol and parking to go to the bank. Even walking to the bank is an opportunity fee ... I used to skip lunch just to pay my bills, now I do it @ night from the comfort of my home.

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post May 13 2010, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ May 13 2010, 10:20 PM)
jsut a quick question, can a student apply for credit card?i mean university student without any jobs and income from family..
if yes then which bank?
please dun point out debit card smile.gif
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Quick answer ... NO
Credit card require proof of income documents. The closest one can come to this is via a supp card.
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post May 13 2010, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ May 13 2010, 03:52 PM)
Does the bank call you up whenever a transaction have been made using the credit card whether through the retail CC machine or Online payment portal ?
OR it is only applicable to certain banks ?
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Guys ... I got to quickly point this out that it is impractical for the banks to verify every single transactions via phone call.
The larger banks have a cust base of at least 500,000 customers and the smaller ones perhaps 50,000.

Imagine 10% of the customer base uses their card on a daily basis. This means a minimum of 5,000-50,000 calls that need to be placed each day just for the sake of confirmation. Most banks detect fraud via a computerized system and places calls to just a fraction of the transaction that comes in through the system - the computer partially helps to identify which transaction requires additional 'attention'.

If you guys are worried about fraudulent transactions ... etc, practically wouldn't it make sense to not use credit card ? Be realistic guys, credit card does offer protection but the sheer volume of transactions, there's bound to have a problematic transaction every now and then. If really credit card are unsafe why are there millions of users out there in the world today and it is globally accepted as good as cash in most countries around the world?

What you guys are asking is akin to asking no road accidents to ever happen in the country. There are millions of cars and vehicles out there on the road and accidents happen on a daily basis - at a fraction of the total number of vehicles in the country. Would it be practical to ask a body to stop cars on the road @ random just because they are using the road ? Be realistic guys .... banks do call up their customers but they would do so either @ random or either they really have a good d**n solid reason to do so.
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post May 14 2010, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(alexwsk @ May 14 2010, 10:55 AM)
guys and gals, which petrol station can reload Touch n Go using credit card? or dun have at all? Thanks.
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It all depends on whether the petrol station would allow you to do so. Reloading got nothing to do with TnG, all up to the station to accept it or not. I think they will decline you coz the cost they bear would be high and income could be negative or too little.
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post May 14 2010, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(thesurveyor @ May 14 2010, 07:16 PM)
Hey, got a question regarding finance charge due to cash advance. If I already has some outstanding balance (balance from retail transaction) for my CC and then later I make a Cash Advance transaction. When I want to pay up, can I differentiate the payment only for the cash advance?

Say outstanding balance is RM100 and Cash Advance later on  is RM100, so end total would be RM200. Then I just want to pay up the cash advance amount RM100 only, would the payment be considered for the cash advance payment? Or I need to pay up RM200 to settle the Cash Advance payment.

Sorry if it is a stupid question, hope can get some explanation. Thanks in advance!
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Let me try ... guys you could correct me if I'm wrong.
Banks treat the various transactions according to a hierarchy and may slightly differ bank-to-bank. Generally ...

1. Retail transactions
2. Outstanding balance
3. Cash advance and etc.

What this means is that your payment priority will go to item 1 -> item 2 -> and so on. This enables the bank to ALWAYS maximize returns on the interest that they are able to recover from the consumer.

In your case if you pay RM100, the money will go to outstanding balance. You still owe the bank cash advance.
You need to pay RM200 ++ to clear the Cash Advance. Why I say ++ is that don't forget your interest is being charged on a daily rest.

Lesson here : Please don't use Cash Advance and if possible avoid outstanding balance as once the bank is able to charge you interest, they will maximize the opportunity to the max. Don't blame the banks ... they are there to make money from the consumer. They are not charities. Period.
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post May 16 2010, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 16 2010, 12:27 PM)
hi guys how much is casino charges for public bank?
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Casino charges are treated the same as cash advance. All banks have the same practice when it comes to casino charges.
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post May 16 2010, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ May 16 2010, 02:05 PM)
its up to the bank they charge admin fee or not, some bank say they charge eg. 2% after covert, some bank say they don't charge, but their rate is higher eg. visa site say USD is 3.21, but they will convert at 3.24

so no matter how you look, there is a fee for forex change.
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Correction to your statement bro.
All banks do charge this fee and they are added on to the forex exchange ... the information regarding this charge is available in the cc T&C booklet (often under overseas transactions) or at the back of your monthly cc statement. Don't get confused with the CS statement that their bank don't charge admin fee where in actual fact they do.

Forex rate is another thing and there's no way to accurately confirm the rate in use by individual banks as they do not reveal this. Officially all banks declare the forex rate is determined by VISA/Mastercard International.
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post May 17 2010, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(yks8845 @ May 17 2010, 12:09 PM)
Sorry if i post wrong thread, currently i need cash urgently, can i know which bank offer personal loan by using credit card to apply...?

i am holding maybank, and cimb credit card.

Maybank have one card feature called cash treat, but it needs to deducted available credit limit, which i think i my credit limit is insufficient, due to i have using it for 0%installment.

how about cimb ? i cant find any personal loan related to credit card.
And about hong leong bank personal, can i using my cimb/ maybank credit card to apply without submit others documents such as bank account, ea form..

Ps: i am very confuse about Hong leong bank personal loan cos what i saw from their website stating  that customer needs to submit copy of ic, and credit card only. but when i called their customer representative, the girl insist that i need to submit lots of document such as epf statement...and..so on
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Yes ... you are posting in the wrong thread. And I'm not supportive of this kind of question.
To all your questions, wouldn't you take it as a sign that the banks are being tricky to your application ? They have worries about your capacity to repay your loan and as I read your post, I have doubts as well.

I had offers before (to convert my CL to personal loan) and I declined coz I don't want to nor I need to. Credit card related loans are of high interest in nature and best to avoid it - PERIOD.
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post May 19 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(JJBerry @ May 19 2010, 05:48 PM)
Citibank M'sia will be launching their new credit card this coming June.

Got this info from friends that work in Citibank,but they have no idea what card type will be launch.

Anyone have info or idea what type of credit card they will launch?
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Interesting info ...
Likely Citibank will be tight lipped about it until it is launched. Coz if it leaks out prior to launching, Citibank likely to launch an internal investigation against its staff and staff might lose his/her job. Even the Citibank's media agency will have similar instructions or risk contract breach / termination.

My advise ... just wait patiently for the product launch. Don't trouble people asking to leak out pre-product launch info.

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post May 20 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ May 19 2010, 10:20 PM)
I have a bad experience with Citibank. I would like to apply card from them. I applied it on 1 month ago and last few days I wanna check for status. You know what I found out , they said my IC number never in record. I feel like what the heck. Then never mind,I go apply again. Wow .... card less than 1 year and 6 months then I have to go provide so many thing like EPF Statement,3 months salary slip and one thing EPF Statement must from KIOSK machine. THey don't accept online slip.. Screw them kao kao .. I won't apply CITIBANK CC anymore.
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Don't be upset bro. They had this application requirement for quite a few years already.
I had this problem when I cancelled my card with them and wanted to reapply again within less than 1 year. Encountered so many problems which make me wonder why they treat me as if they don't know me.

I waited patiently till 'technically' I can be accepted and I am back with them again. Don't be surprised if HSBC also alienates you should you cancel and wishes to reapply within a short time span. I had problems with OCBC applications as well but it doesn't bother me much coz the card got no privileges that interest me.

Bro ... rejections are normal. Even the senior cc users also encounter this.

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post May 21 2010, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(SeanChang @ May 21 2010, 05:22 PM)
yes & even last transaction which petrol supermarket u used, how u pay, etc
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Apart from the standard questions (e.g IC, Address), the other questions are "Security Questions" which only be known if you are the true user of the card. Questions are random and among others it can be "When you last paid the bill and how".

Not all banks will ask you "Which supermarket you go to?" questions lah coz sometimes these types of questions can be problematic if the cc user doesn't remember but yet a genuine user. (I take it the banks which don't ask these kind of questions to be more sensible)

However, definitely the questions will be random and something to be only uniquely known to the user.
For first timers and green cc users - Banks CANNOT ask you questions like

1. What is your credit card number for verification?
2. Your CVV number
3. Expiry date / Name on Card

They are supposed to already know the answer. Anyone asking you this is a suspected fraud coz these info can be used to buy things without your authorization. Giving these info away as noted above ... is akin to you giving a stranger keys to your house. So be smart.
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post May 22 2010, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(lordsapt @ May 22 2010, 09:35 AM)
Since your new to cc, let me give u some tips.

1. Interest rate for cc is 18% interest p.a(per annum) means 1.5% interest per month
2. Don't use the credit card if you can't fully settle it every month
3. In the event u cant settle fully, the balance amount will be subjected to 1.5% interest
4. If u have pay late, u will b subjected to late interest amounting to 0.05% (not sure if they have change this %)
5. If u have a saving/current account with the same bank, you can actually do a standing instruction to pay the credit card
6. In the even u need cash, you can use your credit card to withdraw cash from atm machine but of course u will b subjected to 5% interest against the amount of cash u withdraw. For example if u withdraw RM1000, u will b charge RM50 interest immediately. If u withdraw less than RM1000, the benchmark for interest charge will be at RM50.
7. Now this is most important, if u have been paying late, meaning u fail to pay the minimum payment of the cc statement for 6 consecutive month, u will automatically b tag in CCRIS and u wont get to make any further borrowings from any bank smoothly since u will b classify as a bad pay master.
8. Now most CC card gives reward points so that u can use to redeem gifts from the bank that your CC is attach to
9. When u purchase high value object for example a watch, u might be subjected to a cc service tax(not sure what this tiax is call) that varies for different outlets ranging from 1%-3%. Always ask the salesperson what the amount is.
10.Finally when your purchasing something above RM500, make sure u ask the salesperson whether they have installment plan, cause most installment plan will comes with 0% interest on the amount u charge on the card.
11. Government has implemented RM50 government tax on each card u own which can b paid annually
12. Please check your statement as they arrive for sometimes they tend to charge you annual renewal fee which can very well be waved by just calling their hotline and ask them to waive it.

I think that is about it. Just dont use the CC cause you are using advance cash. Is good to carry 2 CC if u travel frequently. I have been to certain country that does not accept certain CC cause they're not familiar with the bank. IMO better CC are from foreign banks since they're more recognize.
Personally i keep 2 which i do not use unless is neccessary  biggrin.gif
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Bro ... I hate to point this out but many of the points that you mentioned are questionable / incorrect.
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post May 24 2010, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ May 24 2010, 05:41 PM)
i never pump in petronas. petronas last time ask to leave behind my credit card when i pump petrol . i said cannot knowing that it's dangerous to leave your card to stranger. the staff said its company policy. what to do, in hurry also... warn the girl that if bill wrongly, come back for her.
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Petronas is not to be blamed but it was that particular petrol station who had that strange policy.
Who knows, maybe previously they were trusting and then they had customers who took advantage. I am not particularly worried if it happens to me because should I dispute I will ask the bank to check the pump mileage @ that particular point of time the card was used. It won't tally .... and you'll win.
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post May 25 2010, 03:48 PM

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The Citibank New Platinum Cash Back Card
Here (Source : TheStar 25th May)


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post May 26 2010, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(yoonseng @ May 26 2010, 11:10 AM)
Hi, regarding the recent promotion of new Aeon Credit Card. Last week, i was approached by a credit card promoter at Jusco One Utama, TTDI. i was told that RM50 of GST can be rebated by 10% or 5 % rebate while swiping Aeon Credit card before 31st July 2010.
Is it true?.
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My personal advice.
Stay clear of AEON CC. They have a track record of losing their customers payments for their cc and very poor CS. I am one of their previous customers / victims. Even they do not reply to any of my faxes.

The one cc which I will never come back to is AEON. Again ... this is just a personal experience - other customer may have something good to say about them but definitely not me.

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