Heh? I think I never explore Klang Valley market enough. Never new got such thing as renting game.

But the game original or not? Where can I get it? If can I also want to rent one day.

I know a number of these sorts of things are available in the Klang Valley but it is my hope that all those gamers in all cities across all states can have easy access to original games at very affordable prices via the used game market.

Those of us who are able to afford to buy and enjoy these games should count ourselves fortunate as many cannot.

By trading with one another we can now make it possible for those who were previously unable to; to be able to own their own games

Fun and enjoyment for all....not just the privileged

Trading games is not bad but how sure we are that the another trader is not one of the scammer? As you said you wanted all around Malaysia to enjoy the affordable prices but who is going to protect us when we do trading?

and is there any extra charges during trading using your site? If your answer is NO, I would really like to know what are you going to get to open this service for us? (That if you are willing to tell )

This post has been edited by melt: May 7 2010, 09:14 AM

remember the popular idiom, "There's no such thing as a free lunch"
and if you have visited his website and logged in, you can see at the top corner (free trades:2)

so the trading service ain't free, and of cos they gonna charge you some fee for providing such service as middleman for trading games

sorry to say this, judging from most of M'sian mentality (everything wants cheap & free ), and LYN is already providing a FREE platform for trading original games (checkout the garage sales game section, and each console's subforum's sales section)
and most importantly, most of the forumer already knew each others, and there's a mutual trust here.... i would say until now, I've only seen ONE con case (PS3 MW2 seller) which is a pretty rare incident considering thousands of transaction are dealt thru this free LYN forum.

SwitchIT is gonna have a tough time to compete with LYN

he said clearly on his site he charge rm3. i been doing 2nd hand trading on lyn for awhile already. so far i haven't been scammed on 2nd hand games. but it requires u to do some research on the seller like look if he baru buka account just before creating his thread, and his sucessful trades. if i wary about him, i will just give him a call and chitchat. from chitchatting u now how geniune he is. so need to do some homework.

for rm3 i guess he does it for all for you. plus u suppose to get a bigger audience coz a portal is more accessible then an uncoordinated sales forum

TS perhaps u can enlighten us how we can really beneift compared to LYN. as i said, i am pretty happy with LYN

This post has been edited by ramz: May 7 2010, 09:43 AM

melt,

ramz has explained it beautifully! (thanks ramz )

We have what we call a Transaction Fee which is the RM3 service charge we invoke only for buyers. Sellers just have to pay to shipping cost - again their choice of what shipping method to use. For every new member, you get 2 FREE Trades for you to test for yourself that it works

We have a comprehensive set of FAQs that would answer all possible questions you may have.....do give it a read.

We, just like many of you have used the forums to buy and sell stuff and as ramz accurately described, its such a hassle to have to do...



Not only that, you have to keep checking the forum, go through the many pages, find your post, keep refreshing, keep replying to ridiculous PM's etc..... It's such a pain....

An important point to remember is that forums were not designed to be used for trading but its been adapted to do so and it works, but has it flaws.

SwitchIT was designed from the ground up to address these flaws and focus on having the tools and features required to all people to trade effectively, safely and most importantly with ease.

Also, if you look at it, LYN's biggest audience is in the Klang Valley......I don't think a dude in Penang is going to COD anything with a dude in KL.

Yes, we'll no doubt be competing with LYN in a way but we're trying to make it possible for gamers across the country (not just in Selangor), even Sabah and Sarawak to trade with one another and remove all the headaches of trading via the forums.

Since SwitchIT was designed for trading and protection of our members, amongst other things we have:

• A feedback system that rates a trader after every trade (even if you forget to);
• A mechanism to protect buyers and sellers by given them their money back for bad trades;
• Blacklist and even remove unscrupulous trades from the system if they repeat their behaviour;
• Reward members with high ratings and feedback score
  • When you achieve higher user levels within the service, you'll get a FREE trade for every 3 that you make;
  • And the higher you get, you'll even get a FREE NEW GAME of your choice
  • ...there are other achievements and rewards too.....later on, we'll let decide what rewards you'd like
• and more

All this, should make is easier for you and have the peace of mind to trade your games.

This post has been edited by The SwitchIT Team: May 7 2010, 10:33 AM

lol. game renting 'alive and expanding rapidly'? wokays if you say so. I'm just wishing SwitchIT good luck with their biz.

Thanks.

We've got a number of members listing their games and we hope that more will join and add their games coz once they do, you'll end up having a huge selection of games to choose from.

It's quite exciting

Hmmmm... buddy, theres the classified section here in LYN which you can post to promote your services rather than here where we discuss about games and console.

I know, and I did post about the service in the classifieds.

I started this trade on console couch to discuss the sustainability of being able to purchase new games and what to do with them after.

Then I guess, it took a life of its own and is going wherever the next post takes it.

the thing is...most of us would rather do it here

ummm... wait...
i thought LYN doesn't allow seller promoting other website for selling their "thing", like lelong or ebay links. in this case, their service is the selling "thing"

and another thing is seller also cannot promote their sales in this sub-forum, that's why Gamers Hideout, Bernard and all other seller thread have been moved to Trade Zone.

I suppose at the end of the day it's about personal prerogative, we hope that our service will be exactly that, a service. We are able to give the gaming community something that serves them and gives them something of value. With the current economic climate in mind, more and more do we need things that simplify and edify our lives. We look to video games to distract us, entertain us and give us a sense of accomplishment. All very good things for our well being. And SwitchIT is just another medium to make these things possible, as we see it

As our tagline goes we're simply making it easier for gamers to keep gaming and thus keep having fun.

What would we do if all the fun ran out?

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Added on May 8, 2010, 3:10 amActually, when this thread was started no promotion was intended. The thread was started to discuss the viability and sustainability of a used game market. Which is apparently very relevant to the gamers here, judging by the number of interested forumers who have been contributing to this thread.

During the course of the discussion, several members began discussing the website and its services, we felt that we were obliged to respond .

I believe this discussion falls within the bounds of the viability and sustainability of the a used game market place, as our website happens to be an example of such a service.

If there has been any promotion here, it has been at the discretion and prompting of the LYN membership. We thank them for their support



This post has been edited by The SwitchIT Team: May 8 2010, 03:10 AM

no promotion was intended? but the last few paragraph of your 1st post already been promoting your web site as a way to trade used games.

and with the current direction, people will divert their traffic from here to your website. less hits and less income, don't think Se7en will be happy about that.

My intention with that post was to get a discussion going about how expensive this gaming hobby is (if you bought original off course) and how other countries have managed to make it quite affordable across all income groups to benefit and enjoy this hobby by having a used game market.

I then went on to note that we believe the same can be applicable here in Malaysia.

As for LYN getting less hits and less income, I honestly don't see that happening.

LYN is MANY things to MANY people its not just about games. It has basically become Malaysia's portal and is the #1 place Malaysians to go to for everything, with discussions ranging from cars, property, health, careers, technology, audio and video, life, beauty, you name it.

Again, I truly do not think this post will be of any significant impact to their bottom line.

Having said that, I had inquired early on about advertising directly on LYN and another generous forumer has already informed to get in touch with se7en about just that, so I will in fact be contributing to their income in the very near future.

for PC games, maybe. for consoles, no way. I mean, we'r living in a country reigned by modded consoles.

I'm actually surprised by that statement.

If anything, the PC is THE most pirated platform, but you do have a point; that will change soon as activation technology (and even continuous gameplay) require an internet connection as opposed to the traditional keygens or patches previously employed to activate games. Additionally, as more and more games do away with LAN gaming (Starcraft II, and no dedicated servers for MW2 PC), you'll have to go original.

While I will agree that most of the consoles can be modded, the 2 main hardcore gaming machines the PS3 and 360 have a such outstanding games and a focus towards online multiplayer gaming that I think people will be more inclined to go original. Besides, with the PS3 having blu-ray - that's difficult to mod and while the 360 can be modded, all you can really do is play single player games and if that's fine for you - good. However, I do think MS will move towards blu-ray soon.

But despite all this, just look at the shear number of online and retail shops in the Klang Valley alone that have cropped up and are selling ORIGINAL games.....that saying something.

If we make it affordable, why wouldn't you buy original?

With the value of games depreciating exponentially - wouldn't having a place to buy used games serve the goal of making original games affordable to many?

Yea, games in oversea are fairly affordable especially 2nd hand. Or even if they sell new game half a month or a year later.. It cost as low as RM25 to RM100.. Depending on it popularity.. The more popular it is.. The longer it takes for the massive price drop...

Actually.. I really love to buy new games for the game tittle that i liked.. cuz even though its only tiny bit of support, I wud like to add up their sale even by one copy... But heck.. I really cant keep up though... Even more RM50 at a price of RM80 game.. If i can get a used game that cost only RM30 i will still go for the cheaper one for the games I have no confident in... I feel kinda not comfortable though.. cuz i really like the feel of opening new game box and also support my fav game production company so they will produce more great games.. XD But, will try to get a new one if chance come and I happen to think the game is worth collecting.. lol..

This post has been edited by lilko: May 9 2010, 03:41 PM

I know exactly how you feel. I too can't keep paying these prices but at the same time also want to support those developers.

In fact, recent studies have shown how a robust used goods market boosts the primary market, because the buyers know they'll be able to resell the goods at a later date, if they choose to do so. In other words, it makes the purchase less risky and lowers the bar for making that purchase.

Thus, a robust used market can be quite helpful to a primary market -- specifically in the video game space.

Now, you could argue that the source is biased, but at least this is one more suggestion of how a used market can help improve the primary market.

i don't think a used market can help or boost a primary market

the developers only benefits from the first purchase, as certain percentage of the purchase price goes to them...
when the game is resold again, they gain nothing at all
So far until right now, I haven't seen any developers or publisher is in support of the 2nd game market, in fact most of them are aggressively against it

so, 2nd hand games promotes buying originals = yes
but contributing to developers? NO