ah man... my favourite roacher =\
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 May 14 2010, 09:52 PM
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May 14 2010, 10:10 PM
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How do i beat mass Marauders with Protoss?
Use Colossus? |
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May 14 2010, 10:23 PM
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yeah Colossus best against zerg and terran if they mass land unit. if you see they spam alot marauder only you can try void rays lol.
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May 14 2010, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 14 2010, 10:10 PM) How do i beat mass Marauders with Protoss? Mass Zealots with charge ability Use Colossus?   |
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May 14 2010, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 14 2010, 10:24 PM) Mass Zealots with charge ability mass zealot will never win mass marauder.  |
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May 14 2010, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 14 2010, 10:10 PM) How do i beat mass Marauders with Protoss? voids/DT/HT/carriers or if you have enough amount, phoenixesUse Colossus? additionally, so long ur numbers are good, or you got other meat shields, immortals 2-3 shot them and they shoot fairly fast Added on May 14, 2010, 10:30 pm QUOTE(aftersteps @ May 14 2010, 10:26 PM) mass zealot will never win mass marauder. ^aye and hey man, not playing ka? lol This post has been edited by Quazacolt: May 14 2010, 10:30 PM |
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May 14 2010, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 14 2010, 10:29 PM) voids/DT/HT/carriers or if you have enough amount, phoenixes Will not be playing at nite for 4 days straight cuz of working nite shift. Will only play in the morning.additionally, so long ur numbers are good, or you got other meat shields, immortals 2-3 shot them and they shoot fairly fast Added on May 14, 2010, 10:30 pm ^ aye and hey man, not playing ka? lol |
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May 14 2010, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 14 2010, 10:32 PM) Will not be playing at nite for 4 days straight cuz of working nite shift. Will only play in the morning. D:im kinda cleaning up my room anyways lol |
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May 14 2010, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 14 2010, 10:29 PM) voids/DT/HT/carriers or if you have enough amount, phoenixes cannot play. i reinstall and now patching again. additionally, so long ur numbers are good, or you got other meat shields, immortals 2-3 shot them and they shoot fairly fast Added on May 14, 2010, 10:30 pm ^ aye and hey man, not playing ka? lol  |
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May 14 2010, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 14 2010, 10:10 PM) How do i beat mass Marauders with Protoss? ermm, how about zealot+stalker+sentry+immortal?Use Colossus? |
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May 14 2010, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(windboy @ May 14 2010, 10:34 PM) ermm, how about zealot+stalker+sentry+immortal? Hmmm ... by then, i dun think the terran player will have mass mauraders anymore |
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May 14 2010, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(aftersteps @ May 14 2010, 10:26 PM) mass zealot will never win mass marauder. Yes they will, with charge ability researched. Collossus are not that good against marauder when they stim up. Unless you block them with force field therefore your army should always composed of different units. Besides, you guys forgot about hard counter of marauder: Immortal |
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May 14 2010, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(Moonflown @ May 14 2010, 10:56 PM) Yes they will, with charge ability researched. In the end, it all ends up on how good u micro all ur units.Collossus are not that good against marauder when they stim up. Unless you block them with force field therefore your army should always composed of different units. Besides, you guys forgot about hard counter of marauder: Immortal |
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May 14 2010, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(Moonflown @ May 14 2010, 10:56 PM) Yes they will, with charge ability researched. -zealots only charge within a certain proximity, good stimmed rauders will prevent that, and after the first charge, its kiting time. so rauders > zealots in generalCollossus are not that good against marauder when they stim up. Unless you block them with force field therefore your army should always composed of different units. Besides, you guys forgot about hard counter of marauder: Immortal - immortal are hard counter to rauders? know this: rauders takes much less build time, cost 1.5x cheaper, can stim pack, and medivac healed. just using shift target volleys, immortals would be 1 shotted 1 by 1 while the immortal struggle to kill a massed up rauder. not to mention, rauders got longer range. tldr: they arent hard counters and you may even say its the other way around. both units got + dmg to armored. Added on May 14, 2010, 11:07 pm QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ May 14 2010, 11:06 PM) In the end, it all ends up on how good u micro all ur units. there isnt a definitive conclusion to this, as it can come down to BO/macro/micro/timing/strat etc etcThis post has been edited by Quazacolt: May 14 2010, 11:07 PM |
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May 14 2010, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 14 2010, 12:30 PM) read blizz dev interviews bout the balancing dillema the latest interview of korean pro gamers lean towards terran as OPzerg in us = needs buff zerg in kr = needs nerf and im happy for zerg change cuz in an ideal world of having perfect resource/BO, having stalker vs marauder vs roaches, roaches would typically come out as the victor due cheap retarded massing and do take note of their dmg/hp/speed in comparison. true, if the stalker got blink as with rauders having concuss, roaches dont stand much chance, but whos to say the roach cant just steamroll your base? base cant blink or concuss em roach now can they? lol Added on May 14, 2010, 12:32 pm 1) theres no specific SEA version/localized server yet (at least according to current beta state) although it has been announced that there will be one for SEA 2) even if i get the US ver and seperated from SEA folks, it wont bother me, in fact, id rather play in US servers for the most part due to a larger map/custom game community and/or laddering opportunities |
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May 14 2010, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 14 2010, 11:09 PM) the latest interview of korean pro gamers lean towards terran as OP interview on certain players yeah, but thats not what blizz's bnet data shows. at least as of now. |
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May 14 2010, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 14 2010, 11:10 PM) interview on certain players yeah, but thats not what blizz's bnet data shows. at least as of now. blizz data is spread towards the whole player base...korean pros is well- pro leagues >.< |
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May 14 2010, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 14 2010, 11:13 PM) blizz data is spread towards the whole player base... no, im saying just the kr bnet. korean pros do play bnet too :/korean pros is well- pro leagues >.< and on an interesting note (again), terran in kr is op, while terran in US is weaksauce. LOL BALANCE FOR BLIZZ |
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May 14 2010, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 14 2010, 11:06 PM) -zealots only charge within a certain proximity, good stimmed rauders will prevent that, and after the first charge, its kiting time. so rauders > zealots in general Quaza shud start a tutorial for us noobz - immortal are hard counter to rauders? know this: rauders takes much less build time, cost 1.5x cheaper, can stim pack, and medivac healed. just using shift target volleys, immortals would be 1 shotted 1 by 1 while the immortal struggle to kill a massed up rauder. not to mention, rauders got longer range. tldr: they arent hard counters and you may even say its the other way around. both units got + dmg to armored. Added on May 14, 2010, 11:07 pm there isnt a definitive conclusion to this, as it can come down to BO/macro/micro/timing/strat etc etc |
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May 14 2010, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 14 2010, 11:06 PM) -zealots only charge within a certain proximity, good stimmed rauders will prevent that, and after the first charge, its kiting time. so rauders > zealots in general Take note of the difference in armor bonus damage between immortal and marauder. - immortal are hard counter to rauders? know this: rauders takes much less build time, cost 1.5x cheaper, can stim pack, and medivac healed. just using shift target volleys, immortals would be 1 shotted 1 by 1 while the immortal struggle to kill a massed up rauder. not to mention, rauders got longer range. tldr: they arent hard counters and you may even say its the other way around. both units got + dmg to armored. Added on May 14, 2010, 11:07 pm there isnt a definitive conclusion to this, as it can come down to BO/macro/micro/timing/strat etc etc And there's no one gonna use pure zealots against marauder. There's always sentries come into play and force field just like how you mix medivac into it. If you give zealots a good micro it will do good at surrounding marauder. If you put medivac into play a protoss could also mix sentries into composition with equal a mount of resources. Well its always hard to argue which is which hard counter because in reality there's always a mix of units. So far MMM ball can be effectively damaged with accurate Psi storm. This post has been edited by Moonflown: May 14 2010, 11:34 PM |
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