Give her time to adjust, did you change her food gradually or suddenly?

gradually...but only for three days as the old kibbles stock lasted that long only....

i suspected my mom gave her rice to eat with the kibbles, when im out for work, as that was what she been adviced by her frens...coz last night she went out poop-machinegun again. the damage area is wider this time. all the small poops were soft. except for the large one.

I have the funniest image in my head when thinking of your "machinegun pooper".
I can also totally sympathise with people giving her different things to eat (mine is a mother-in-law), very frustrating.

Hope her poop settles down to normal soon

i imagine CJ7

I noticed that Acana dog food was ranked as 5 star premium food in dogfoodanalysis....and it has great ingredient too.....i juz wanna know anyone tried before? will the furkid produce smelly or stinky stool after eating it? coz i keep my furkid in my room, so i very concern bout the smell of the stool... ==''

read the prev thread. byaku-chan tried it before...

Read byaku chan post before, but he mentioned the 1 wif grain ingredient, i'm considering Acana Pacifica, main ingredients are fish n salmon n it is grain free....sorry for not mention tis earlier..however, i will gv it a try by myself to my furkid^^
I m feeding my furkid Addiction Salmon, juz change to tis last week, her stool firm but a bit soft...duno good o not...

This post has been edited by ^4ever_Fan+a5y^: May 19 2010, 10:33 AM

where did u get the Addiction Salmon? i was trying to get it myself but couldnt find in 3 petsmore branches. they have it but it's for kittens. not puppies.

I got it from pet lovers center at kepong jusco

Is it ok i feed my beagle puppy 5 months with orijen 6 fishes?

Shouldn't be a problem, its a decent food. See how he goes .

Also just wanted to add another thing science diet is actually useful for (that i had forgotten and was recently reminded of). If you have a dog that has been very ill and so not eating or drinking (i'm talking Parvo/Distemper etc.), If you mix i/d or a/d wet food in with a bit of regular food and water, the dog will find it much easier to eat, keep down and digest that sticking him straight back on full meals of highly nutritional foods. He will also stay hydrated due to the high water content of the mix. As the dog gets stronger and healthier, you can slowly reduce the amount of a/d or i/d and increase the amount of normal food (keep the water content high until you are sure your dog is drinking enough again). I would recommend starting with a 50/50 split of SD and Good quality dry kibble with enough water to make it the consistency of porridge.

Hi Divas, byaku-chan and all friends: -

after reading some of the possts here, i am amazed and surprised and perhaps shocked about the foods that we are gicing to our beloved pets. i really need to ask for your advices about 'things' that i am feeding to my american pitbull terriers. please kindly advise, i am a humble and good listener.

when my APBT got skin disease (actually it was mainge) my vet advised to feed him the Science-Plan food. quite costly.

i am currently giving Pro Plan (Natural Lamb & Rice) Formula Plus Essential to my 9 month old APBT. am i giving him the right food/diet?

Guaranteed Analysis: -

Crude Protein (MIN) 28%
Crude Fat (MIN) 18%
Crude Fiber (MAX) 3%
Moisture (MAX) 12%
Linoleic Acid (MIN) 1.6%
Calcium (Ca) (MIN) 1.1%
Phosphorus (p) (MIN) 0.8%
Vitamin A (MIN) 15,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E (MIN) 100 IU/kg
Glutamin ** (MIN) 1.0%
DHA (MIN) 0.05%

I am planning to mix few spoons of rice (cooked) with the diet.

is Pro Plan healthy enough?
does it cause skin related diseases?
what 'best' brand shd i give if Pro Plan is found not suitable?

Thank you all in advance.

thanks

after about 2 weeks of feeding her with orijen (not the fish package) i dun think she or even me and my family can take it.

for her - the stool remains soft and smelly. some of it is a bit watery as well.

for us - hard to clean up and smelly of course. worse is when she spread it around.

need to get a need kibble today...

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Added on May 23, 2010, 10:05 amsummary of her diet.
nutri-edge - the kibbles she was feed wif when she was born. stool is firm and nice. no smell.

oven-baked - stool is ok but it causes her to drinks LOTS of water and she'll vomit brown, foamy fluid afterwards. vet gave her some medicine. after the med is finish...she continue to vomit once in a while.

orijen - no more vomitting but the stool is nightmare.

i guess her stomach couldnt take some much meat (protein) at a time...pity i would say.

This post has been edited by karwaidotnet: May 23 2010, 10:05 AM

Well, you could either go back to what shes used to as different dogs may react differently to different foods, or try another brand of dog food?

@karwaidotnet - Yup i would guess the sludgy poop and bad smell is all the excess protein coming out. Try switching to a good quality normal dog food for a while (I would recommend Canidae, go!, now! or health foods but you can choose any that follow the 'good food' rules). Hopefully that sorts everything out, don't forget to introduce the food slowly by mixing it with the Orijen she is eating now (start with 50/50 then work towards 100% new food over a week or 2).

If she has a lot of intestinal/digestive related problems you could try giving her a little apple cider vinegar in her food each day (like a teaspoon) as that has been seen to do a lot of good for digestive systems in dogs.

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Added on May 23, 2010, 4:19 pm@mikehwt - Yes it is indeed scary when you start to really understand what goes into our dog's food. But dog food is a huge industry with lots of money to be made so it is only natural that a lot of the companies involved are more concerned about the health of their wallets than the health of our pets.

There is already an analysis of Pro Plan on this post, but it is the Performance variety, not the Shredded Naturals that i think you are talking about. So here goes, Pro Plan Shredded Blend Natural Lamb & Rice Formula:

Top 5 ingredients are: Lamb, brewers rice, corn gluten meal, whole grain wheat, chicken meal

Starts out well with Lamb, simple single source meat protein number one.
Then crash down to brewers rice, corn gluten meal and whole grain wheat - not desirable ingredients.

Brewers rice is the small milled fragments of rice kernels that have been separated from the larger kernels of milled rice. (AAFCO definition). Brewers rice is a processed rice product that is missing many of the nutrients contained in whole ground rice and brown rice thus reducing the quality. (From Wikipedia).
Corn Gluten Meal is a by-product of the corn milling process.
Wheat in general although not as bad as corn, is not as good as (real) rice, or barley, or oats, or potato.

By this point, even if you take into consideration the final ingredient of top 5 (chicken meal) the food already has more grains/fillers than it does meat...
If we carry on down the list we see ingredients such as animal-fat, soybean meal, beet pulp, animal digest... the list goes on. I also found an ingredient that i haven't noticed before and looked up quickly:
Introducing Glycerin:
In foods and beverages, glycerin serves as a humectant, solvent and sweetener, and may help preserve foods. A sweetening agent should never be seen in dog food (there are plenty of other safe preservatives that can be used).

Don't get me wrong, they have put some good ingredients in there, Pearled Barley is there somewhere, as is oat meal and fish meal. However the fact that the majority of the top 5 ingredients are undesirables and a lot of the other ingredients aren't impressive either, isn't outweighed by the decent ingredients they decided to throw in.

Also a Lamb formula food should NEVER contain chicken protein as a lot of people rely on Lamb formula foods as a chicken free alternative for protein sensitive dogs. Any formula that is advertised as a single meat formula (Lamb and rice, Kangaroo and barley, Duck and sweet potato) shouldn't contain other meats in the top 5. Its like you buying a beef steak, and then finding that it has been stuffed with chicken when it arrives on your plate...

To summarize, although the protein levels and stuff are all fine, the ingredients really aren't (especially not for something which seems to be trying to be advertised as a healthy alternative food). Re-read this thread and then decide for yourself what food brands you are interested in (i like now!, go!, Canidae and Health foods but there are other good brands out there). If you get stuck you can always post up the ingredients and get an analysis, but it is important for Malaysian dog owners to be able to read and decipher pet food labels to force pet shops, suppliers and manufacturers to improve the quality of the food they produce/supply and sell.

This post has been edited by Divas: May 23 2010, 04:19 PM

hmm...dont c canidae at the petsmore shop i went to. but i found addiction salmon that i initially wanted to purchase. let's c how she goes now wif smoked salmon

i hope she do fine wif it...

Hi Divas,

many thanks for your great and knowledgeable words. i truly appreciate them so much. thanks for your researches.

my dilemma is that, i am from Ipoh and there are very limited brands of choices around among the few large pet shops. i am stull trying to look for the bransd that you and others are suggesting but i dont seem to locate them in the pet shops around my area. this is really frustrating as i always wanted good foods for my 2 9 month old pitbulls.

i will read up the posts and hope to find the brand names as suggested. thanks.

i hope some can post other alternative 'decent' brand names so that i can at least feed my pets with ease.

thanks again.

@mikehwy - Put a list of the foods available and we can see what would be a good choice. Alternatively you can ask a shop to bring in food for you. I order specific/specialist brands for certain customers, they let me know how much they need (eg 15kg bag per month) and then i make sure i have it. Bigger shops might not do this but if you have a Petsmore/Pets wonderland or any of them, their company already has most brands in their warehouse and it would simply be a case of them adding one or 2 bags in a delivery every now and then.

@karwaidotnet - good luck with the addiction, let us know how it does for your dog.

Dear Divas,

thanks again for your advice. i think this is the best that i can do ... i mean, i will go and copy the brands available. but i remember that there are only very few names up in the shelf.

thanks very much to your effort.

This post has been edited by mikehwy: May 23 2010, 08:55 PM

Yeah i would like to see the list too ^^