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post May 11 2010, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ May 11 2010, 11:33 AM)
imo when we won the double Cristiano was there, he covered our midfield flaws.. their job is easy, get the ball to Cristiano.. and if he lost it, recover the ball back and give it to him
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BS!

Ronaldo can't do jack without other team members.

So if our midfield is too flawed as suggested by some, whom do you reckon to fix that area?
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post May 11 2010, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ May 11 2010, 11:57 AM)
sure Ronaldo cant do anything without the others, but how bout Ronaldo have Cantona linking up with him, and Keano holding the midfield? he can do 10 times more..
that is only my opinion, dont slate me la bro
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What's the use in talking about Ronaldo, Keano and The King?

They have moved on. We should just stick to the players we have ATM.

Again, since you and others are saying our midfield is too flawed, whom will fit those roles?
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post May 11 2010, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ May 11 2010, 12:04 PM)
Gojko Kacar for DM/AM, he can play both
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is he PL proven?

what about Hamsik, Gourcuff?
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post May 11 2010, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ May 11 2010, 12:36 PM)
It really depends on how SAF look at next season. If he plans to rebuild and give youngster more playing time, I do see any big signing next season. If he wants to go for the 19th and CL, good chance we will see 1 top class striker at OT. But for me, I dun mind if we rebuild and give the young player more chances. Just secure that CL spot will do for me.
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+1

If not, no use bringing up the youth. I would agree of one-two addition to the squad esp on firing power.

Then again, seeing Berba playing all his will in Stoke's match, I am willing to give him an another season to go.

Plus, I really can't wait to see the likes of Possebon, Petrucci and King to be featured in our 1st team.
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post May 11 2010, 01:36 PM

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Oh well. Can we afford to lose an another season just to weed out the GHs?

You know, with the debt going on and all ..
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post May 11 2010, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ May 11 2010, 01:59 PM)
who said the opponent stronger than our team? it is impossible to win all game through the season, and i know it..
it is hard to win the league, even harder to retain it.. but we did it 3 times in a row and that impressive

i dont even play FM, just expressing my opinion.. but thanks for the insult bro, u are waaayy much better bigger United supporter than me smile.gif
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the way i see it, you seemed would like to make urself looked like an innocent fella by posting the highlighted.

when i asked, you don't even bother to reply. why do you think that fella you've mentioned would be adequate?

I have asked, is he PL proven? What are his qualities that could add to the team? How sure are you that he will help improving the team?

Yeah, you are wayyyyy much better bigger United supporter than most of us .. rolleyes.gif
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post May 11 2010, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ May 11 2010, 03:01 PM)
bro, if you had kept up with football news you'd know that the competition has moved on since then. if we expect the current crop can win titles, well there we go, we had carling cup.

and ure suggesting that man utd just keep their crop of mids when it was clearly shown they are not up to the competition? what a blind fan
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Comp has moved?

What the hell are you trying to point out? You are as negative as Alan Hansen were.

"You'll never win anything with kids."

Hahaha to him and you. If SAF could bring out the best of Ronaldo back then, Nani now, he could bring out the best of anyone. The problem is the players themselves.

And get your fachts right. The team loses by 1 point on the last day of the competition. Ronaldo left for Madrid. That Argie freak still whining in City even playing in the first team.

Chelsea team is an unchanged team. Let me put a simple equation for you.

(United - Ronaldo - Tevez) = 1 pt < Chelsea Same Team.

Oh talking about UCL, we were further ahead than Chelsea were. We were on the wrong position of refereeing. Oh hell, who cares. Lets not talk about that.

FA Cup? Oh .. yeah. We were taken out by Leeds. Who is Leeds? 1st Division Team?

So you're saying our players are only good enough to win Carling Cup only?
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post May 11 2010, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ May 11 2010, 07:36 PM)
Where were we before SAF I see someone asking in the Chelski thread....WTF?? I guess the prick never heard of Busby and The Babes. Not our fault ehh that you don't have any history.
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As much as I dislike Liverpool, I love them for their history.

So, we are post-SAF fans?
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post May 11 2010, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ May 11 2010, 09:16 PM)
Sounds random, but...of all the goals we concede, how many did we blame VDS on? i believe none, that's how good he is to us. We might curse our luck, or referees and linesmen, or occasionally blame bad defending (for example free Torres header at OT), but dun think VDS is guilty for any of our goals conceded. And to think that goalkeeper is the one that are more prone to get the blame on goals, conversely he's got nothing but praise from us all season long, saves after saves against shots that looked destined to finish at the postage stamp area, commanding the back 4 like a general, never fear strikers and not nervous at all.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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That is because he is good. And I am worry we would go into an another slump like we did after the big Dane left.

QUOTE(mhyug @ May 11 2010, 09:48 PM)
yuh guys it seems we can have a closer look at "Chicharito" once mexico come to europe for friendlies.and guess wch team they will be playing...england.( (24 May), the Netherlands (26 May) and Italy (3 June)

since astro ALWAYS shows englands game we can see him in action and im sure he will want to impress as fergie will be in the stands imo biggrin.gif
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Great. I have wanted to seem him in action. Missed the match that Wan has mentioned b4.

Anyone watched the match? How good was he?
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post May 11 2010, 11:54 PM

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dont bother lah.
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post May 12 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(kael90 @ May 12 2010, 12:23 AM)
As a fan, you should know, The Sun is shit. laugh.gif
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post May 12 2010, 09:36 AM

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yeay for scholesy for saying no.
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post May 12 2010, 03:27 PM

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here's to Benzema not being picked for WC. tongue.gif
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post May 12 2010, 08:02 PM

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shit. i cant wait for world cup now. reading the teamsheet lists making me excited already.

oh yeah .. and also summer transfers muppetry. laugh.gif
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post May 14 2010, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ May 14 2010, 11:58 AM)
The thing is he doens't live up to expectation, after 2 seasons of opportunity. Even our great Denis Law said this. I am not sure you can blame those supporters that doubt him after 2 seasons. Fine enough if you insist that he might be played out of position, but I have to say this...his finishing is very very poor. This is not supposed to happened considering that he did great at Spurs. And we bought him at 30M. Yes, i know we don't have a say on this but the fact that we agreed to it tells you how high SAF rates him. On Fletcher, he was young back then and the thing is he was never highly rated so the expectation was low. I am glad he proves us wrong. Berba is 29 now, not much time left for him. Evra, I have never doubt him.

Speaking of Evra and Berba, I first knew them when we were against Monaco and Leverkusen quite some time ago in champions league. I told my brother who is arsenal supporter that I can see that these 2 players will play for us in the future and so they did. Still remember Berba's goal that knocked us out from the semis. It was brilliant. Sadly to say, things are not working for him at the moment.
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If you follow the youth, you wouldn't typed that.

Fletcher was among those whom are highly rated. You can ask Wan about this.

I am with air_mood in this issue. The criticism over Berba sometimes are just over the top. I don't see anyone bashing Rooney for throwing tantrums at times and loses the ball many times.

Carrick was playing well alongside Fletcher earlier the season. He failed to resume his form after being switched back from CB post. And again, criticism against him are just rolleyes.gif

I have reiterated many times already, Levy doesn't like us. He sells players for stupid fees.

If this "selling players when they aren't performing attitude" are what we all about, isn't it better that we support RM, no?

Let me use the love analogy.

If you love someone, you have to accept the good and the bad.

So, if the bad is players aren't performing, shouldn't we accept it, no?

Nothing is perfect in this world. Simple as that.

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post May 14 2010, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ May 14 2010, 01:41 PM)
As I have said, it's true we can't do anything on the fees, but we agreed to it. Why? I think you know why.

On Fletcher, maybe me memories failed me. I cant recalled Fletcher being highly rated. On Carrick, yes he does not have a good season but at least we know that he's good, just that he lost form. I got no problem with Carrick. I can't say the same thing about Berba, I havent seen anything that is convincing.

Acceptance is one thing, but are we gonna sit tight and do nothing? But I agreed some post here on Berba is nasty.

About the Love Analogy.
I do not love Berba, I love Manchester United!  biggrin.gif
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When I gave the analogy, I meant love for United. Non performing players = bad side of United? tongue.gif

QUOTE(joshtlk @ May 14 2010, 01:54 PM)
enough said, i think after all the season has ended. And of course, all united fans would wish that berbatov could do better for us next season, but some have already lost faith in him. time after time he has failed us, i could not remember when was the last time he stood up, and run the attack and score for us. I think all united fans would agree that his first season with us was much better, but carrying a 30M price tag behind ur back aint easy. So at the end of the day, we just hope that he gets better. and then hit top form like he used to in spurs. All the best to berbatov!!!
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Good post!

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Carrick is largely a victim of doing well the things that are not immediately noticeable, unless you are looking for them. People have disagreed with me before about this idea, and perhaps I am wrong, but it appears intuitively obvious to me that certain actions on a football pitch are more likely to come to the attention of people watching a live match (which is the crucial point). Even football programs tend to highlight players who score a goal, or perhaps defenders who head the ball or make crunching last ditch tackles, at the expense of those who do things consistently and effectively throughout a match, but which isn't particularly remarkable (however important).

For example, the two things that are most prevalent throughout almost every game are short passes and interceptions. Every player, no matter there position or abilities, likely does these things most during a game. So, it's not hard to imagine that a player who just so happens to do the two very well is not going to attract the kind of attention that they perhaps deserve, particularly if they aren't outstanding.

It would be interesting to find out what kinds of things most people do notice during games, and whether they can really tell the difference between a player that does fairly unremarkable things like short passing and intercepting really well, as opposed to just well or average.

This is not to say that Carrick has been consistent at what he does well in the time that he has been at the club. I tend to agree that in the season that has just ended his level had dropped to some extent. But it's interesting to note that some of the things that people are criticizing him for are one-off, though obviously very important, mistakes. That is probably only natural, of course, but it's important to admit that it can't simply be applied to his game as a whole, unless there is evidence to suggest that it can.

Finally, while I would tend to agree that Carrick isn't an outstanding footballer, you can't just dismiss his contribution to three Premier League titles, a European Cup, and a second European Final, while operating in the most important position on the field. That means something, even if we can't immediately put our finger on what exactly that something is.

The major criticism that I would have is that he has never appeared to take responsibility for the role that he should have in the team. When he first arrived, it did appear that he was more comfortable allowing Scholes to take the responsibility of controlling the midfield through ball retention, but that could have been because he was new to the club. As the seasons have progressed, however, and as Scholes has become less influential in terms of game time, it does appear that he might not have it in him to take on the responsibility that any central midfielder at a club like United clearly has. How important this is in the grand scheme of things, I really don't know.

So, while I would certainly agree that we might be able to find a better, more influential player to take on the responsibility alongside Fletcher (who certainly does that, already), I'm not convinced that it should necessarily be the end of Carrick's time at United. If we are lacking a creative player who can operate in the center of midfield, as most agree, it doesn't make sense to get rid of one of the three defensive minded (though they all do much more) players, particularly when one of them hasn't played for nearly two years.


Great post!!!
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post May 14 2010, 05:24 PM

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“I’m sure United will buy a new striker, but I am there and that’s important. I will try to fulfil my contract because where would I go after United? I have reached the top with them. - Berbatov

He's no Tevez ain't he? That Argie keep on whining even playing first eleven for City. Which one you would rather keep? rolleyes.gif
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post May 14 2010, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(themanguydude2 @ May 14 2010, 09:57 PM)
But you also have to look from his perspective. Yes, we're all supporting the same club but we all have different vision on how the club can be more successful ( eg . Selling Berba and get a real goal scorer )
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Please name me one.
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post May 14 2010, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(themanguydude2 @ May 14 2010, 10:12 PM)
Higuain? Villa?
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Please dont make me laugh.

Both of them are proven in La Liga.

Berba is proven in BPL.

Berba are having problems with his price tag.

I reckoned that either of them(Higuan/Villa) would cost at least 25m pounds.

What makes you think that they won't have any problems adapting to BPL?

What makes you think that they won't be facing confidence issues as Berba facing currently?

Have your heard of a certain Andriy Shevchenko? What was he like in Serie A before moving to Chelsea?

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post May 14 2010, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(joshtlk @ May 14 2010, 10:23 PM)
wow.... chill man, why get so hype up!!! we are all man utd fans, and we want wats best for the club. calm down..  smile.gif
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I am chillin dude.

It is those transfer muppets that you need to coax. They keep on coming with 'brilliant' ideas!

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