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post Jul 2 2010, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Jul 1 2010, 08:40 PM)
Zoom creep means when you point your lens downwards the lens will zoom in itself bcuz of the weight. or when it's zoomed in already (200mm), it will zoom out when you point it upwards. You can get 70-300 VR with DX also, it's not wrong, just that it's super big and heavy and more expensive (but more range and FF compatible)

Nikon 18-200 is better than tammy..
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I've read through dpreview for both nikon and tammy, both have their pros and cons. nikon's pros are faster because of f/5.6 and the VR is slightly better, but IQ is inconsistent. Tammy's pro is IQ is very good, but slower because of f/6.3

http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/nikon_...5p6_vr_afs_n15/

http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/tamron...3p5-6p3_vc_n15/
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post Jul 2 2010, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 2 2010, 11:43 AM)
Not to mention Tamron always have the infamous slow AF!
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oh yeah, forgot to add that! tongue.gif slow and loud.
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post Jul 2 2010, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(stsh90 @ Jul 2 2010, 11:57 AM)
newbie reporting in. just got my D90 a week ago =)
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welcome aboard biggrin.gif don't forget to share your shots so you can improve biggrin.gif
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post Jul 2 2010, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(stsh90 @ Jul 2 2010, 12:12 PM)
ya, got a plenty. cos I took it out from the box and went straight to perhentian island. lol
here's one of my many virgin shots blush.gif
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wah nice, surely you took a lot from there eh? btw, for your photo, it's best if you can use the rule of thirds. either 1/3 sky or 1/3 sea.

and try to take the photo in a straight horizontal line. there's a function in the camera to set the gridline on.

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post Jul 2 2010, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(stsh90 @ Jul 2 2010, 12:16 PM)
yeap lol.

hmm rule of third vertically? okie thanks biggrin.gif
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rule of third both vertical and horizontal biggrin.gif

something like this, put the rock at the bottom left corner

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post Jul 2 2010, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(stsh90 @ Jul 2 2010, 12:22 PM)
oo. now i see. 1/3 rock, 1/3 sea, 1/3 land horizontally and vertically 1/3 sea 2/3 sky.  nais smile.gif
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yup, play around the thirds biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ifaaan @ Jul 2 2010, 12:41 PM)
i was deciding between metz and nikon.

metz has better figures and is fully compatible with nikon cameras. basically the Metz 48 AF-1 has everything the SB600 has, plus it can zoom to 105 instead of 85 and has a higher GN rating. it's a tad more expensive too.

but i went for nikon instead. Cos the Metz doesn't come with a stand and a pouch. hahaha. i didn't wanna spend more for Metz and thn spend even more to get the stand and case. i thought that since this is my first flash, i wouldn't really need such a high GN rating. make do with what i have first. still learning anyway right? biggrin.gif
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hehe and good thing about nikon is that you can do CLS with your D90, set your built-in flash as master biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ifaaan @ Jul 2 2010, 02:45 PM)
erm.. Metz aso can cls as slave la. haha.
tapi mahaaaaaal T^T lol. nvrmind, once i learned the basics, i can get a better flash and i'll have two! yeayyy. hehehe.
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oh heheh ok, yup then get 2nd one and can more flash CLS muahahaha
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QUOTE(bad melatonin @ Jul 2 2010, 04:50 PM)
erm... klu pakai 18200 & 35 for kenduri kahwin ok not?
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lol 18-200 can't bokeh enough.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Jul 2 2010, 05:16 PM)
There's quite a lot of amateur wedding photographers both canon and nikon using an 18200. Of course you can use it especially if you're doing it alone & with only one camera body.

Some people might disagree and say normal lenses "can't bokeh enough" & that the famous Tamron 1750 2.8 is a better "wedding" lens than the Nikon 1855VR / 18105VR or 18200VR. Been there done that.. got so pissed at my Tamron 1750, I sold it off after just a few months. I got the built-in-motor version before the VC came out..the motor is damn slow to achieve focus, even the cheap 1855VR is faster to get a focus lock.

For me, the ability to take interesting camera angle, pose, capturing important & memorable moments etc2 are more important than bokeh. I got a friend who used just an 18200 but his wedding shots are so nice it can easily beat most amateurs with 1750 2.8. The 1750 has constant f/2.8 but dont be fooled to think you can shoot wide open at f/2.8 for portraits/weddings. Bokeh is nice but the sharpness is not enough. You want bokeh? Get a prime lens. cool2.gif A 50mm at 2.8 is much much sharper than 1750 at 2.8

So my suggestion would be :

1. Sell the 1855VR if you can & get a 2nd hand 18105VR & also get a cheaper ultrawide like the Sigma 1020 f/4-5.6 or Tokina 1224 f/4 (built in motor version)
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2. Sell the 1855VR if you can and get an 18200VR.

I just wanna share my experience, opinions and a bit of researching through the internet about the famous Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8

1. Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 (without motor) - 1st version
- This lens is the fastest focusing lens among all three versions.
- It has no motor and only can focus on bodies with built in motor like D80/D90/D200 etc.
- Some are made in china and some are made in japan. Japan versions are somewhat better optically.
- Quite a lot of this lens version have back/front focus problems especially the built in china ones.

2. Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 (with motor) - 2nd version
- This lens is the slowest among all three versions.
- It has a motor and can focus on all bodies like D60/D5000.
- Afaik, all are made in Japan.
- A small number suffers back/front focus problems.
- The lens electronic contacts sometimes fails to connect to the body. This usually happens because it's still new. Try cleaning it with a clean cloth.

3. Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 (newest version with motor & VC)
- This lens is 2nd in terms of focusing speed.
- Slower than 18-105VR focusing speed but still acceptable.
- It has a motor and can focus on all bodies like D60/D5000.
- From what I've heard, just a small number of people suffer from problems with front/back focus issues.
Now the question most will ask me. Why does the built in motor ones are slower than the one without motor?

1. Tamron still uses micro type motor in all it's lenses and this slows down the focusing speed and thus making it longer to achieve focus lock which is a b***h when taking wedding pics or other fast paced photography jobs. Been there..done that.. Really hate it because my friend's Nikon 18-55VR can have a faster focus lock than me. Sold it off in just a few months...

2. Sigma's 18-50 f/2.8 HSM is really fast because of the HSM motor but IQ and colour wise, Tamron wins. It's a toss between speed and overall IQ.

3. I'd like to note that the newer 1750VC has a faster motor than the 2nd version but it still uses a micro type motor and not a ring type motor.

4. Micro type motor are used in Tamron lenses with built in motor & cheap Canon lenses which usually dont have the words "USM" on it.
- This type of lens is cheaper to produce
- Slower in focusing speed

5. Ring type motor are lenses like Nikon SWM (stated as AF-S on it's lenses) , Sigma HSM, Canon USM, Sony SSM, Olympus SWD.
- This type of lens is more expensive to make
- Fastest focusing compared to micro type and non motor.
- Do note that pro lenses like the canon L lens and nikon's tele lenses have a faster SWM motor compared to normal/cheaper SWM lenses.
* This is why there's a lot of people selling the non motor tammy 1750 at a higher price than newer version (2nd hand).
* This is also why there's a lot of people selling their 1750 built in motor (some just 1 month old) or swapping it with a 1750 without motor.
* Most if not all sellers of the built in motor versions will just say they wanted to upgrade to other lenses, needed money, selling on behalf of friends etc etc...but now you know what the main problem is. It is slow!!!..at least for me where i really need a faster focus lock. The 1855VR, 1870 and 18105VR has a faster focus lock...yeah..
* The older non motor version is nice and fast but be careful if u wanna buy a 2nd hand NON motor version of the tammy 1750 because a lot of em has a front/back focus issue. U need to test it out yourself using a focus test chart here: http://focustestchart.com/chart.html
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thanks for the review. hmm think twice about tamron now. but 18-200 for wedding, not really good in low light, unless using flash.. any suggestion on settings?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 4 2010, 08:58 AM)
I used to like Vivid +2 a lot haha! But nowadays no longer =/.
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d90 don't have vivid +2 mah right? only got vivid. d80 and below got vivid +2, the older models.
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biggrin.gif any C&C? biggrin.gif

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Camera Model - Nikon D90
Lens - Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D
Focal Length - 50mm
Aperture - f2.8
Shutter Speed - 1/320s
ISO - 200
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Jul 5 2010, 11:44 AM)
the lightning feel weird for me..
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bright warm spotlights from the front. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Jul 5 2010, 11:44 AM)
the lightning feel weird for me..
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trying to adjust the WB now, really headache rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 5 2010, 07:53 PM)
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Spreading bokeh poison~
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this weekend shoot what?
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QUOTE(superb88 @ Jul 5 2010, 10:38 PM)
Hey guys, as I've posted in this thread earlier that I've bought a D90 recently (bout 2 mths ago) and now I rly think my D90 is a grey set though the shop that sold me the camera insisted repeatedly that this is an original set. I was a fool to just believe his words and not double checked properly before purchasing it at RM3250 as I discovered it has no 'nikon mys sdn bhd' sticker on the box & warranty card. It has the stickor 'my world trading sdn bhd' or sth lk that. not too sure bout it...

Now here's the thing, I heard grey set or local set, there are in fact the same and so far I haven't come across with 'pirated nikon DSLR'. My D90 produce great pictures but one thing which worried me the most is the fact that my battery en-el3e which comes with my new unit has quite a weak batt life span. Averagely on a full charge I can manage only 500-600+ pictures or sometimes even less. And among the 500-600+, probably around 30% or less is taken with flash for wireless triggering purpose. Bottomline is that my batt life is significantly weaker when I compare to a fren of mine who jz bought a D90.

Today we did a comparison, with more or less the same shooting style, we started of with 100% batt, by the time we shot 30 pics, his was still at 100% while mine was already at 93% and when we reached our 100pic++, his was still strong at 88% while mine was already 77%.

So I checked his batt & compare 2 mine and 2 my amazement, there's diff in our battery! I'm attaching the pic I took to show u guys the difference. The one highlighted in red box is mine while my fren batt is the other. May I know how's yr original batt like? I'm rly furious with the shop, sold me a possibly grey set camera and now I'm rly worried my batt could b a counterfeit one too...

Here's the picture:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/50541864@N05/4764187914/

TQ for yr time, guys
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i don't think there's counterfeit nikon batteries though. it could be that they might have swapped your new battery with an older more worn out battery, but that's just guessing. my D90 is also new, around 1 month old from singapore. i just shot 700+ continuous shooting on friday and the battery just went down by 1 or 2 bars. then on saturday i shot 1500+ continuous on the same battery without charging, went down another 2 or 3 bars.

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QUOTE(superb88 @ Jul 5 2010, 10:55 PM)
Owh, I bought from a shop in Lowyat Plaza. Well in fact at RM3250, their price is slightly lower than the average of RM3300+. However, They really really kept telling me it was original local set. I was asking them bout it. Then I ended up buying it cuz I wasn't aware bout the importance of having Nikon Mys Sdn Bhd thing at first. He told me I can checked at 'My World Sdn Bhd' and claimed my warranty there like all original unit does. Since I was still innocent and new to buying a Nikon DSLR, I was terribly misled by him and did not think I will be cheated hence I didn't try 2 investigate further even I suspected a little for not having the Nikon Mys thing. I would have topped up more for a local set with proper warranty if he had told me the truth. This is totally conning. So my battery is diff from yrs?
Yea, from my understanding, the D90 batt life supposedly is very strong. Mine even on the first wk, I felt that it run out of juice unusually fast. And only today I discovered my batt was diff from my fren's D90 batt. Well, if they had swap the battery out, that would b totally cheating customers!!!
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yup, you never know what they'll do, but i've heard about stories like that happening with handphone owners who wanna sell off 2nd hand phone. something like they wanna sell it off to the shop, but didn't like the price, when the owner wanted to return the phone, they swapped out with a fake battery sweat.gif
anyway, i haven't heard of fake batteries, so i'm not too sure if this is the first time i'm seeing a fake, or it's really a real 1.
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use 30s f/22 with black card biggrin.gif


Added on July 6, 2010, 12:18 am
QUOTE(ifaaan @ Jul 6 2010, 12:14 AM)
oh ya ka? bt anyway, about your fireworks shooting thing. if you use ISO 200 and use say 10 second shutter, you might overexpose your photo. this is of course assuming you are using small f/. higher ISO will allow you to use smaller apertures so you get deeper depth of field. but if you want bokeh thn you gotta use low ISO to minimise the light exposure so you dnt overexpose your pic. smile.gif

somebody correct me if i'm wrong. hahahaha.
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btw, i don't understand what you're saying hmm.gif

if low light, smallest f number as possible and bump up ISO to 800 and above lor to be safe.

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adjusted WB, too cold? or ok?

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 6 2010, 12:55 PM)
I think you can actually buy those Hoya HD CPL at that price... Somehow I would go for Hoya instead though.

Btw, this weekend I'll be going for this event tongue.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1473000

Anyone else going? xD
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oh that event.. lol eat durian until sien tongue.gif and take pic of durian girl

argh all my photos WB so mashed up, set it to tungsten then skin tone is ok but the bg so blue =.=" any advice ar? or have to manually adjust the blue hue also sad.gif

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