you dont need data package to use agps.

try go to:

Start>Settings>system>enhanced GPS set both options to disable

without agps see if it locks this fast.

i hv used Garmin Nuvi, Garmin Mobile XT, Papago for iphone, Tom Tom for iphone.

from my exprience, Garmin Nuvi and Garmin Mobile XT are suitable GPS software for me as the interface quite friendly. and please dont use map from Garmin, u should use open source map like Malfreemap cos it updated weekly.

oh ... tried but M10 don't have the "enhanced GPS" setting you mentioned but the specs mentioned it has AGPS. Probably can't be deactivated huh?! By the way, thanks for enhancing my knowledge. Always tot tat AGPS need internet connection ... after check wiki, seems like mobile phone AGPS has other ways ^ ^

Copy from wiki :
A typical A-GPS-enabled receiver will use a data connection (Internet or other) to contact the assistance server for aGPS information. If it also has functioning autonomous GPS, it may use standalone GPS, which is sometimes slower on time to first fix, but does not depend on the network, and therefore can work beyond network range. Some aGPS devices do not have the option of falling back to standalone or autonomous GPS.

Many mobile phones combine A-GPS and other location services including Wi-Fi Positioning System and cell-site triangulation and sometimes a hybrid positioning system.

this review says that it can be deactivated in garmin itself.
"The AGPS option can be turned on and off as per users liking, though if you have a data plan, it doesn't hurt to leave it on."
http://vr-zone.com/print/garmin-asus-nuvif...eview/8752.html

should be in navigation>gps

hmmmm ... still nothing .. unless the "Auto Update" and "GPS Data Update" are related to the AGPS ... These features need connection to the internet. I disable it and only update it using wifi.
Or you are talking about "location updates" in the "connected services"? This feature needs the internet too.

If these are AGPS services, then I have disable all of them.

This post has been edited by cloudhenri: Oct 28 2010, 12:20 PM

I wont comment on device. there are many types of device.

The search function in Garmin beats all. I have installed TomTom/Papago in iPhone to try. what a shame ! I cant search road number.

Garmin on my OLD HTC phone beats them away by the search function alone.

PapaGo prompts a annoying, its keep talking.

Getting satelite fix in 5-10 sec isnt big deal if you think practically. it takes little longer when you are moving.

Navigation wise as long as it shows you the road should be good enough dont expect these GPS device to tell you drive which lane too.

Finally if you buying dedicated GPS device, buy most cheap Garmin model. Trust me you dont need those fancy feature that makes you to pay 1k+

btw using GPS almost 4yrs.

i am also not sure about location updates.

i think now the best way to determine is to take out the simcard and let the phone in offline mode.

go to a new location, if it can still get lock outside under 5 sec, it rocks.

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Added on October 28, 2010, 12:50 pmthere is one garmin gps that i like, cost rm900++ few month ago, it is not about the feature but its' size, really slim.

This post has been edited by greyPJ: Oct 28 2010, 12:50 PM

5 - 10 sec is a big deal

My fren "GPS Bay" takes more than 15 minutes outdoor, if lucky. Just imagine your whole family happily ready to go somewhere, turn on the engine but need to sit there and wait for at least 15 minutes for satellite lock, with no guarantee ?! How does it feel? , or

Never used Papago before.. using Garmin. So far very satisfied with it. Even some infamous kopitiam also the gps can find

Tried with flight mode (i.e. phone service was off) at a new location, about 3-4 second outdoor that include the time of switching on the GPS services (i.e. running the software). To be exact, the satellite lock took about 1-2 second ... so M10 rocks

want to get fast lock? easy..

open google maps.. until got locked position..

close google maps

open ur gps application

ps: for iphone users

yes.

can run tomtom,papago etc....

i'm useing garmin now...

i dunno. i feel comfortable with Garmin.

So I don't intend to change.

Although the cost is slightly higher than Papago, i think the brand will definitely give better satisfaction.

yea i feel secure with garmin even i get lost or it lead me middle of no way it still gets me to my destination i tried other gps app before lost make u-turn u-turn den destination bring me middle of no where arrived at your destination but at a lonely road no where

I prefer garmin. The latest garmin 3790 has this terrain features which is kinda questionable whether it serves any purpose.

For hiking and exploring it serve alot of purpose for drive around in town of course not

bro, i think nothing is the best, just depend on how u judge them.
for me, i strongly recommend GARMIN.
i use it for 1 and half year, it is reliable because it "bring" me to every corner of half a peninsular malaysia. useful and the satelite reception also improved. *double thumb up*

well... i use papago & Igo8. Igo8 has a most user friendly gui quite similar to Garmin but map is not updated. Papago with MFM a bit lagged but most updated map+pois.

Garmin Nuvi 1350 or Papago R6100?
Both almost the same price but garmin screen size is 4.3" compared to 5" for papago.