actually i do agree on the fact that is has no camera cover, and it's a bad news...i tot camera phone should have a lens cover...after all, what's attracting me to this phone right now is the camera, if it's that exposed, i think it's not that wise...

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Added on April 29, 2010, 11:09 pmto be honest, this aint the first time it cheats users with beautiful effects on promo videos...n97 for the recent example, watch the demo again, and hand on a unit, u will see that there are no such fancy theme effects on the actual n97...nokia been misleading, and some might call, cheating on consumers to get more sales...so, even if that's the case, i wont be surprised

This post has been edited by BBXiong: Apr 29 2010, 11:09 PM

of course is user's responsibility to protect that also...some users can use 1 year and never gotten any scratch on their lens that's without cover one...don play play....

but i been thinking....i got LX-3 liao..still need such overkilling camera??

see la, if price is like N97 when launched, this phone might just success...anything more expensive then that might scare away most buyers...
and if it's below 2k, i might just buy it..haha

but need to see apps availability also...

and guys, arent we a little too focused on the camera? what about the OS itself...the apps support and all

cos ppl like me have shaky hands

haha...i kinda feel nokia is faking this photo, no offense...
i mean, of cos, it can be better then cheap DC, but it reach until comparable to semi pro class camera?

eventually, maybe, but not even in this coming 10 years i think

camera now, even DSLR, u cant dump the ISO to a very high value without noise yet...
and phone camera now, due to it's packed camera, obviously could hardly even bump to what a DSLR call low value(800) that can have proper quality...
there are just too many factors on DSLR that cameraphone will not be replacing it in near future

stimix: that camera u tested is low end?? i not really that familiar with camera models...i wonder how it perform against better PnS cams?

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Added on April 29, 2010, 11:36 pmya....optical zoom for phones also...that long waited but yet to exist feature....

This post has been edited by BBXiong: Apr 29 2010, 11:36 PM

i recall they claim optical zoom also caused quality lost...
and that thing is like a camera with GSM antenna...

in that case i feel like stabbing myself liao...i bought LX-3 last xmas and this phone came out...zzzzz

honestly with that price, i really gonna buy one

why not? nowadays storage quite cheap edi, and even internal flash memory is getting bigger and bigger...i don see a full DVD quality movie, or even series, will do much harm....after all, u can always delete after watching


@nakalboy: right now the we only know it's gonna be around Q3 this year, exact month and date, not sure..

the orchid shot, how come the Lumix camera one blurry one?
as for the office one...try bump the exposure of the lumix and see how it is...honestly i kinda feel the vivaz one the color kinda off...but the orchid picture is nice

should be within this 3 months...considering the fact that there's a leaked product like iphone 4G, the hardware itself is pretty much ready, i think they are waiting for the OS to complete

that's the standard Software Development Life Cycle for you...programmer's job is never finish...always code, debug, find new bug, debug...ah...my life as a programmer

@bufung: a DVDrip is just 700MB, higher qualities one are 1.4GB or so, and 1 8GB memory card is ~RM70 last time i check...unlike last time u have to pay RM100++ for 8GB..
somemore the fact that it's gonna be 16GB built in...i dunno about other ppl, but my photo + music never occupy more then 3GB..so that 13GB i can still dump ~10 full length movies into it...it's the same way on ur PC also mah...i get the movie, finish watching, delete/burn out if u wanna keep...

plus...i didnt really say anything about watching it thru HDMI that often..maybe once in a while, but for me i know i'll be watching some past time tv-series/movies on the phone itself lo

err..i didnt even mention dobly stuff when i say watch movie mah...i was talking about storage all along..and u also mention DVD quality movie, not HD

to be honest, about that HD playback part, i agree with u that it just means can watch the video u captured urself, HDMI out, maybe, one is a while, for fun, i might use...but not for movie..maybe share with friends/family some of the video that i have captured using the phone..

i used my n82 once, watch MV on tv to test see quality nia..then never used liao...

honestly...it's one of those *nice to have, but never used* feature

agree with stimix, been using brix size phone since last time...6680 -> n81 -> n82, pocket really is tight..

lol..cool..it's that cheap now heh...haha

bad bad news.... >:|

ya, as i recall there are BDrip that is ~1.7GB...good compression ones..haha

@Bufung: japanese language 3gp?? sounds suspicious....

This post has been edited by BBXiong: Apr 30 2010, 03:22 PM

well...according to spec paper...Samsung Omnia HD, can already handle HD playback with OMAP3430....although HD recording, the battery only lasted ~40 minutes...i guess with GPU it's possible for phones to do that too...

but yeah, selling gimmik indeed, although it may sounds cool, we don need it...somemore non removable battery, that's just cool... =_="