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tineagle
post Apr 30 2010, 01:30 PM

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hey has anyone ordered stuff from bodybuilding.com?

i placed my order on the 4th of April, via International FedEx post which has an estimate of 7-14days.

i haven't receive my order yet, and was just wondering how long it usually takes
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post Apr 30 2010, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(olkooi @ Apr 30 2010, 02:05 PM)
BB.com is trustworthy.
Be patience.
im confident with bb.com, its the malaysian kastams I am worried bout so i was just wondering how long it takes for delivery

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post Apr 30 2010, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Neek @ Apr 30 2010, 05:33 PM)
My orders in the past took up to 4 weeks just to reach me.
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ah, ok. thanks for sharing, i will continue to wait feeling a little more assured smile.gif
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post May 2 2010, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(super messi @ May 2 2010, 12:19 PM)
i'm trying to gain muscle weight...been eating like crazy...but sadly ate too much junk and ended up with a big belly....how do i get rid of the fat without losing the muscle that i've build....is there any chance that i can still build muscle and loss fat??? some people ask me to clean up my diet...hmmm...help please...
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yes it is. you have to be careful of what you ingest.

eating clean and weight training is the key.

I lost 5% of bf and maintained the same bodyweight over 5months with 4days of weight training a week and 1 day of sports(basketball, my only cardio).
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post May 2 2010, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(cheezzzz @ May 2 2010, 12:37 PM)
wow tineagle thats awesome. your diet must be pretty clean man. mind sharing diet and ur training plan?
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thanks. I am really strict 5 days a week, and let loose a little during weekends(still maintain high protein, just allow more calories and cheat meals but with limitation).

Diet consists of the high protein, mod carbs, mod/low fat 6 meals a day. 3 main meals, 2 snacks(usually sandwiches/boiled eggs), 1 post workout shake.

Main source of carbs are pasta, oatmeal and white rice(post workout meals only).
Protein from WHOLE eggs, milk, chicken, fish, and red meat.

Training is a 4 day split. mon-thurs, friday 2+ hours of basketball(cardio).

seems to be working out great for me.

I was 72kg with 22%bf a year ago. The last test I did 3 weeks back at CF Subang Parade showed 75.4kg at 16.4% bf.
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post May 5 2010, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ May 5 2010, 06:13 PM)
oh lol, i not sure though cause never buy before, i tot 500g is a lot XD

if post workout~ then 1 week 3 times, then 1 month 12-15 times.

160scope can last a year? lol cool!
how much is 10lb o.O?
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500g? are you looking at Horleys?

please don't waste your money on Horleys, it is supidly overpriced.

500g, if lets say each serving is 25-30g would only be 16-20 servs.

Go for 5lbs tubs for starters, and 10lbs once you decide fitness is the thing for you and not just a phase.
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post May 8 2010, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 8 2010, 01:38 PM)
I am kinda a hard gainer, hard to gain muscle, the fat were accumulated from the past due to sedentary lifestyle

what difference is it between normal bulk and clean bulk?
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you should say, dirty bulk and clean bulk. normal doesn't quantify anything.

Dirty bulking is basically eating everything you see, fast food, junk, processed food.. etc in the attempts of putting on weight regardless of how much fat you add in the process.

Clean bulking is when you filter your food and eat excess calories with intention to add weight, but keep the food clean (non-fried, whole food, no processed food.. etc) so that you add on quality weight(muscle mass) with as little excess fat as possible.
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post May 8 2010, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(John91 @ May 8 2010, 01:54 PM)
Dirty bulking FTW heh! biggrin.gif
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you can afford it with the amount of bf you have, but not everyone can.. haha
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post May 9 2010, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(eekang @ May 9 2010, 12:36 AM)
hmm, got something to ask. just now went to MV's GNC to ask about the protein supplement. I ask this guy, wat's the different between those product (ON ,Muscle Tech and 1 more cant remember).. he told me tat ON and the other 1 is 2 maintain the muscle and for muscle tech is to bulid muscle. Find it funny. Coz this is my first time hearding this.
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makes us wonder what qualifications do you need to be a GNC sales rep to begin with.

seems like they would hire anyone who can 'look' like they know what they are talking about when it comes to nutrition but in fact memorize their lines from other colleagues of same understanding or read it off pamphlets.

what a let down for such a supplement giant.
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post May 10 2010, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 10 2010, 06:20 PM)
lepas ni kite ramai ramai apply
no need all those c.s.c.s. certi etc
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I know someone who worked at a commercial gym for 3months upon graduating last year. All he did was sit through and interview, and a simple fitness exam where they ask questions like whats biceps.. triceps.. exercises..etc(which anyone who has been training for at least a year or two should know easily).

They do have good trainers with certificates and other fitness related qualifications, which tend to cost more per session. The others, they let loose to chase around clients looking to start off and not familiar with workouts, how to use machines, weights etc.. so they dont put much importance on fitness/nutrition wise qualifications.
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post May 11 2010, 06:18 PM

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I ordered some creatine powder on 6/4/2010, and still haven't received it till now.

patiently waiting~
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post May 11 2010, 10:13 PM

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look what i found in one of my eggs
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Added on May 11, 2010, 10:14 pm
QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 11 2010, 10:13 PM)
ordered creatine from us?
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yes, BB.com

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post May 11 2010, 10:33 PM

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guess its spoiled.. i cooked it hard boiled, the way I always do.

occasionally I do run into bag eggs, and i guess today was just another one of those days, heh.
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post May 12 2010, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(alzaim @ May 12 2010, 03:55 AM)
i was wondering something...
is it okay lets say..
i do my chest on monday
and i have another chest day ermm lets say..
thursday?

so means i have two chest days per week..
or it will be bad..
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thats fine.

Its how i'm chasing my lagging chest, and it seems to be working for me.
But on the 2nd day of hitting chest, i keep it moderate weight, high reps(10-15).

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post May 12 2010, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 12 2010, 04:54 PM)
QUOTE(Pro Bob Chick;441788831)
6 days of rest between BP

I would never work the same part with only 24 hours of recovery ...

Recovery IS bodybuilding..no one ever got big in the gym

The basics of BB tell us that you are breaking down muscle tissue when you train....it's the recovery process that builds one up in terms of muscle size/ strength.
You train the bodypart HARDER, not more often. You may be growing but don't you think you would be growing a lot more if you did the former?
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Yes you train it harder, but there's only a certain degree of how HARD you can train.
Of course training it more than once a week with high intensity and volume wont work with natural trainees.

Lagging body parts require more stimulation than brutal pounding, and adding in an additional day later the week(2-3days apart from first day of training that body part) with moderate weights and high reps seems to be the best way to stimulate that growth.
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post May 12 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(de.crystal @ May 12 2010, 10:51 PM)
anyone know where can we get a pair of good quality glove ?
brand and price pls?
great if can buy online
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Harbinger.

egonutritions.com

*edit, wrong quote

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post May 13 2010, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 13 2010, 06:24 PM)
I used to read Layne Norton's (natural bb) threads. That was years ago. Now I exclusively read Q & A threads by IFBB Pros and ever since then my gains exploded. Strength wise, size wise. Training a bodypart with high intensity and volume won't work with juiced trainees either. Again, bb = recovery = bb.

You slam it hard with drop sets/neg sets/pause reps, etc, etc. Things which you wouldn't do with bodyparts already on par. Then you let it rest. What's your normal chest day rep/sets like? If you slam a bodypart with high reps and heavy weight, you wouldn't even want to train it twice a week even with lower intensity. There are many factors in this.
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You have a point there darklight. I normally do a 4 day split Mon-Thurs. Hit chest hard on Monday 5-6 exercises(finish with a burn set), push/pull variations, weight according to how much I can squeeze 8-12reps on that day.

The thing is by Thursday I'm ready to go at it again with 1-2 exercises, moderate weights high reps. It'll still burn a little from Mondays training, thats why I never push high intensity on the second time around.

I'll try changing my routine around next week on; hitting chest with forced negs, drops, partials..etc. Normally I do include these beyond failure techniques on the last exercises for each body part. Will keep it for chest alone, and that way like you said will work the chest harder than other muscle groups.

will keep ya'll posted, thx for the insight.
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post May 13 2010, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 13 2010, 07:59 PM)
Wait bro. You mean, you're on a push pull split? As in you do chest, tri shoulder together? I'm confused sorry. I think i'm still sleepy.
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lol no, by push pull exercises i meant incline bench presses > flat flyes > flat bench press > cables > dumbell press > pullover.. etc

i keep chest day for chest alone. other days are back/tri, shoulder/bi,legs/forearms

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post May 13 2010, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud2322 @ May 13 2010, 09:53 PM)
Hey bro,
Every morning I take a cup of Milo
Maybe during the recess time in school I eat some of the "nasi lemak" or noodles soup around 10 in the morning.
And then after the school I usually eats economy rice on 1:30o'clock
And then during the Dinner I ate at 6o'clock

But I'm quite a little bit lazy to exercise.. But I do it once a week.. But sometimes I still get to be more heavier than before.. Thought I eat less..

Is this what they call "eat less, gain a lot type"? add on It's quite hard for me to reduce my weight... Except that I never eats my dinner for 1week then I'll get to reduce my weight.. Will that be proper?

Urm.. I'm actually with 175height and 205pounds
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your problem is that your Metabolism rate is low. By not doing any physical activity + having a low metabolic rate, you are not burning the calories you put in. Thats why even when your eat less your find your weight still increases.

And no, dont skip dinner for 1 week! You should not be skipping any meals at all!!

The only way you're going to loose weight is by getting that Metabolic Rate of yours up to begin with. Do this by exercising 2-3 times a week atleast(if u are too lazy to run or lift weights, go play sports), and learn to eat small and frequent meals throughout your day. We're talking about 5-6 meals a day, but in your case since you want to loose weight, this should be strictly controlled. NO NASI LEMAK please.

Eat oats, fruits n vegies, salads and clean sources of proteins like whole eggs, steamed chicken/fish..and such.

Since you are a student, try something like this:
Meal plan:
1) eggs, oats, milk - 7am
2) fruits/vege/nuts/raisins - 10am
3) mee, meat - 1pm
4) fruits/vege/nuts/raisins - 4pm
5) pasta/mee/bread, meat - 7.30pm
6) oats, milk - 10pm

Yes, cut your rice intake. It will be hard at first; you can start of by reducing our serving to half of what you normally take.

Pair this meal plan with 2-3days(more if you can) of physical activity, and watch ur weight drop. Gluck.


Added on May 13, 2010, 10:27 pm
QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 13 2010, 10:05 PM)
You're pre exhausting in a way. I dunno, i mean i prefer to do all pressing movements first then iso's.
Here's how i do mine:-
4 sets incline db
4 sets flat db/machine flat
4 sets decline bb/machine flat
4 sets incline or flat flyes

Might add pullovers or cable crossovers if i have the mood but i'm f***ed after everything. I give it my all yet i don't go till failure. Sounds contradictory but.... oh well.
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I've found that when I do all my presses first, by the time I get to iso's I'm already exhausted and cant lift as much.
Thats why I mix em up, doing iso's in between doesn't have as much effect on my strength come next pressing set as it would if I did all presses in a row first. I can move more volume(in total weight/reps by the end of my workout) this way.

I guess how we line them up doesn't really matter, as long as we take the muscles to failure(and beyond) and get them pumped by the end of our routine. After all that is the case behind hypertrophy no?

Its always good to switch things around too, so I guess i'll be doing this for a change.

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post May 13 2010, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 13 2010, 10:31 PM)
Don't go to failure! THAT's why you have no more power in isolation workouts which make those sets sub optimal iron brother. Learn to stop each set 1-2 reps SHORT of failure. You should be experienced enough with your body to know when is the time to stop the set.
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oh, but I love taking it to failure.. its become more of a habit really haha. If I can squeze 13 reps of the 12 i planned for that weight, I make damm sure I DO IT.

time to slow down, thx for the pointers once again.

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