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post Apr 26 2010, 04:40 PM, updated 16y ago

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Some article that I found might be usefull to share with you all.

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Maxing It Out! The Endomorph


I introduced a basic workout plan for the novice body sculptor in the last issue of Universal Matters. I'll define, more thoroughly, a framework to guide you in your goals. I'll address the endomorph here and discuss the mesomorph and ectomorph in upcoming issues.

If you remember, endomorphs are individuals characterized by narrow shoulders in relation to their hips. Their lower bodies appear thick and heavy. When they diet, the fat usually off their upper bodies, but clings to their lower halves. I recommended that these individuals concern themselves primarily with “trimming down” and increasing their metabolism through aerobic and resistance training and proper nutrition.

Let's talk about training in more detail. My clients often tell me that they want to “tighten up” their bodies so that their appearance is slimmer and more aesthetically pleasing. This goal is difficult unless they lose their fatty deposits, especially the subcutaneous fat. Experienced bodybuilders understand this well and undergo an intensive 12-16 week diet prior to competition. They also know that their well-sculpted and highly developed muscles will appear more prominent the leaner they are. Although, their competition weight is lighter, on stage, they appear larger. My point is that to appear “tight and firm,” you have to lose the fat. There's no other way around it.

Therefore, as I mentioned earlier, my training program for the endomorph is geared toward helping him increase his metabolism. I have him concentrate heavily on aerobic apparatus (e.g., treadmill, stationary bike, stair climber, etc.).

I usually take a brisk walk on the treadmill, or cycling at a moderate pace on the bike is fine. As a general rule of thumb, you should be able to carry on a conversation while performing your aerobic activity (fat burning requires oxygen). Although it is important to burn calories while you train, our goal is to steadily increase your metabolism so that you can burn calories even at rest.

If you are running on the treadmill or racing on the bike, while you may burn more calories while training, you will NOT effectively increase your metabolic rate. Why? When you increase your intensity (heart rate), exercise becomes anaerobic; to constantly burn calories, you must take advantage of aerobic conditioning. As in the case of the tortoise and the hare, slow and steady wins the metabolic race.

Once I've establishing a solid fat burning protocol, we then move on to weight training. I prefer to utilize a circuit-type program in which my client performs a series of different exercises. Start him off with thirty minutes of aerobic exercise per day, three times a week. I'll slowly increase this frequency to seven days a week. Depending on my client's progress and conditioning, I may increase exercise duration as well.

What about intensity? For the purposes of increasing metabolism, exercises. For the endomorph, I emphasize higher repetitions and minimal rest periods between stations. I try to hit the whole body during this intense (anaerobic) session. I work with each individual client to determine which exercises he can best “feel” while training that specific body part. Once this is established, I'll arrange these exercises in a series of stations for optimal results. The program can usually be performed in approximately 15-20 reps.

It's important that each rep is “felt” and that the client follows proper form. I don't count sloppy reps. After my client has completed a station, he will stretch that specific muscle during his 30 second rest period and then move on to the next exercise station. The entire workout program is short but intense if performed properly. Depending on need, I may run my client through it two or three times. Remember, stretching prior to and after weight training is extremely important for preventing injuries and for facilitating optimum muscular development.

With training out of the way, we can now turn to dieting. Nutrition may be the most important aspect of “tightening up” for endomorphs. In my many years of experience, I've noticed that endomorphs are typically sensitive to carbs (or more specifically, to insulin). To exacerbate matters, these same endomorphs consume too many carbs throughout the day. As a result, they'll retain water. Too often do I hear complaints about “swollen feet” or “bloated abs”! What to do?

I start by limiting his protein source to poultry or fish. The amount of protein I initially allow him is approximately one gram per pound of bodyweight (for example, 200 grams if you weight 200 pounds). Later, when he starts incorporating resistance training into his regimen, I may increase the amount of protein he consumes to maximize muscular growth and development.

Next, I'll manipulate carb intake. I start by implementing a diet with a 1:1 ratio of carbs to protein. In other words, if you weigh 200 pounds, you'll consume 200 grams of protein and 200 grams of carbs per day. Assuming you'll eat six meals per day, this translated into 33 grams of protein and 33 grams of carbs per meal. Depending on your results, I may decrease the ratio of carbs to proteins.

As endomorphs may be insulin sensitive, the type of carbs he consumes is extremely important. The term “glycemic index” (GI) is currently in vogue. The glycemic index of a carb basically indicates how fast it is converted into sugars that enter your circulation. In short, the glycemic index measures the rate and amplitude of blood sugar levels which in turn determine the amount of insulin that is produced in response.

Why is insulin so important? Insulin basically performs two functions: (1) it stores fat and (2) it prevents fat from being broken down to a usable energy source for the body. When dieting, we want to limit the amount of insulin we produce. We accomplish this by selecting carbs with low glycemic indexes. I don't worry too much about fats since fats usually limit themselves (depending on the type of protein you are eating).

To summarize, because of the endomorph's genetics and predisposition for insulin sensitivity, his diet should focus on limiting (and wisely selecting) those carbs with low glycemic indexes. He should try to consume smaller meals more frequently in an effort to maintain a steady blood sugar level. Finally, his training program should have a solid aerobic foundation. I have found that this type of overall program best facilitates fat burning. If you are an endomorph, remember that success depends on your ability to believe in yourself. Strive to make your dreams become a reality. Good luck!





Maxing It Out Part 2: The Mesomorph


I hope that all the endomorphs out there have found my last article helpful in their quest to attain their ultimate physique. Now let's spend some time with the mesomorphs. Remember, mesomorphs are those athletes who generally have no problem putting on mass. Their shoulders are broader in relation to their hips, giving them a naturally athletic appearance. Although their belly muscles are thick and powerful, they still must pay attention to their diets as they tend to accumulate fat along with their weight gains.

Resistance training should be at the core of the mesomorph's training program. Since mesomorphs tend to have thick, powerful muscles, I’ve found that moderate to heavy weights are necessary to stimulate growth. Novice mesomorphs don’t always need to push until failure. Your goal is to stimulate muscle growth, not kill your muscles. Muscular growth occurs when a muscle is taxed or challenged. As you become more experienced, you can push yourself to failure, but only with a training partner to spot you properly.

So how do you know when your muscles have been challenged? The "pump". A good, full pump is a sign that your muscles are working maximally and recruiting a high volume of blood to meet their needs. If you push further, your muscles' needs will not be met. While training to failure can promote growth, the risk for injury increases. As you gain more experience, you may want to try this, but only with a good spot from a training partner. Train smart! Also, remember to take your rest time between sets. During this time, I recommend that you stretch and flex your muscles to further promote growth and development.

Following a thorough warm up, 3-4 sets of 6-8 reps per exercise with increasing weight loading should be your target. Remember to strive for a solid pump. Don’t overtrain your muscles though. Start with 3-4 exercises per muscle. Remember, once you’ve properly stimulated your muscles, further stimulation doesn’t equate to larger muscles. Heavy weight loading is not the only way to skin a cat. Be creative. Change the order of your exercises and the type of exercises. You may even want to train with lighter weights and higher reps every now and then. Constantly challenge your muscles with variety of stimuli. This will minimize your injury risk and maximize your gains. Avoid the mistakes of overtraining. Adequate rest and proper nutrition are also parts of the equation for optimal growth and muscular development.

On the subject of training partners, let me say that I favor them. While many elite bodybuilders can train alone, I find that a good training partner helps you work harder and cheat less. I feel that a two to three person training team is a good place to start, especially if you’re lifting heavier weights and require longer rest periods between sets. As you progress and become more conditioned though, I think you’ll find a two man team more productive. The timing between rest periods is better and it’s easier to maintain your intensity and focus.
Now that your training has transformed you into a huge beast, you may look in the mirror and smile. Smile until you notice that your waist is thick and soft. Remember, although mesomorphs gain mass easily, they also tend to gain fat. How do you solve this little problem? You guessed it… Cardio.
Mesomorphs don’t need to perform as much cardio as an endomorph. Cardio (treadmill, stationary bike, Versaclimber, or Stairmaster) training for approximately 35 minutes three times a week is usually sufficient. If you're goal is to increase body mass, don't overdo it. Adjust your cardio program to meet your needs. If you prefer a leaner harder look, then increase the frequency. Generally, you don’t need to perform cardio for more than 45 minutes at any given time.

Wrapping it up, let's turn to nutrition. I feel that mesomorphs attain optimal results with a balanced diet. I usually start my clients by outlining their protein requirements. When training regularly, to adequately build muscle, you'll need 1.5 grams of protein or more for every pound of bodyweight. In other words, a 200 pound mesomorph requires at least 300g of protein per day. With increasing muscular demands, you may find that your protein intake will increase as well.

Next come carbs. Mesomorphs should aim for a protein:carb ratio of 3:4 (300g protein and 400g carbs). Therefore, if you’re consuming about six meals a day, you'll need 50g/protein along with 66g/carbs per meal. Be careful to select complex carbs with lower glycemic indices. Remember, it’s quality, not quantity.

I usually don’t concern myself with fats too much because they're naturally limited by the type of protein you consume. If you’re taking in red meat, you should be getting enough fat in your diet. If it’s fish or chicken, you may need to add some fat, usually in the form of nuts or flaxseed oil. Often, I increase my fat intake if my energy levels are low or my muscles appear worn out and unhealthy. I usually don’t increase my carbs unless my muscles appear extremely flat.

To summarize, mesomorphs need to train with moderate to heavy loads, but with adequate rest periods. They need to be careful not to overtrain or they will notice diminishing or slower gains. Maximum gains can be achieved by adding variety to your workouts–keep your muscles guessing! Training partners can be very beneficial in this regard. Cardio is a must if you want to maintain a tighter waistline. Finally, a balanced diet is a good start for leaner muscular gains. Good training and good luck.


Maxing It Out

Everyone would love to look like the cover model of a fitness or bodybuilding magazine. I know I would. But in reality, only a elite few realize that dream. After all, whether you’re an amateur bodybuilder, recreational body sculptor or fitness model, genetics are extremely important. But if genetics are a limiting factor, why train at all? The answer to this question is easy. Though we have limitations, each and every one of us also has immense potential. Our goal should be to strive for that potential.

But where do we start? Today, there’s an overabundance of advice on training, dieting, nutrition and supplements. It can be a real nightmare navigating through the maze of information. The first thing I always do as a trainer is evaluate a physique. I categorize physiques into the conventional classes of endomorph, mesomorph and ectomorph forms.

An endomorph is an individual who is characterized by narrow shoulders in relation to the hips. Endomorphs carry greater mass in the lower half of their bodies. When they diet, fat may melt off their upper bodies, but it clings tenaciously to their lower halves. Endomorphs are usually frustrated by their limited progress despite total dedication and commitment.

The mesomorph has no problem putting on muscle and weight in general. Their shoulders are broader in relation to their hips. Though their belly muscles are usually thick and powerful, these individuals need to watch their diets as they tend to accumulate fat with their weight gain. Many talented athletes are mesomorphs.

Ectomorphs are even wider in their shoulder widths, with slim hips. The bodies are streamlined—think of the classic swimmer’s body. Ectomorphs are usually “hard gainers”—they have trouble putting on muscle and weight. But to the envy of everyone else, they can often eat what they want without sacrificing their waistline.

Now take a look at yourself in the mirror. Where do you fit in? Realize that there are gray areas between each category. Maybe you’re somewhere between an ectomorph and a mesomorph. Once you’ve determined your body type, take a look at magazines and see how your favorite bodybuilders and fitness stars stack up. Pay special attention to those athletes who have bodies similar to your own. Doing so will give you a glimpse of what you might look like if you reach your potential.

Each form has its own pros and cons. Since your own shape has been predetermined by genetics, the key is to highlight your body’s strengths while masking its shortcomings. And once you understand your body type, you can tailor a program to bring out your best.





Training Your Body Type

Endomorphs need to concentrate heavily on cardiovascular training in combination with proper dieting. For these individuals, the first priority is trimming down, not bulking up to hide their size. Cardio training should be directed towards increasing their metabolism rather than burning fat. If you can increase your metabolism, then you can burn fat throughout the day, even when you’re not exercising. Since crash diets don’t work over the long run, reducing calories should be a gradual process involving careful manipulation of the ratio of carbs, protein and fats. By adjusting one variable at a time, you can see what diet works best for you. With regards to training, overall circuit-training is a good course of action. Aim for lower weights but higher repetitions. Keep your rest periods between each set at a minimum. Remember not to overtrain.

Naturally powerful athletes, mesomorphs usually achieve results in a short period of time. They need little to moderate cardiovascular work to keep trim. Mesomorphs have a flexible diet—they can eat a broad variety of foods. To maintain a leaner look, however, mesomorphs can reduce their carbs in relation to their protein intakes. I recommend keeping fats in the low to moderate range. Once again, circuit-training is beneficial for mesomorphs. Unlike the endomorph, the mesomorph should focus on training with moderate to heavy weights with moderate repetitions.

Ectomorphs can benefit greatly by training with moderate weights for moderate to high repetitions. Naturally trim, these athletes require little cardiovascular work to keep their bodies lean, especially when trying to gain additional mass. For “hard gaining” ectomorphs, diets should consist of more fats in relation to carbs and protein. Protein and carbs should be moderated.

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post Apr 26 2010, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 26 2010, 05:09 PM)
@ReonLin83 : Put sauce pls
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I simply can't do it sad.gif


Added on April 26, 2010, 5:15 pm
QUOTE(eekang @ Apr 26 2010, 05:09 PM)
Hi, i'm 19years old and weight 97.9kg and my height 183cm. I just started gym session few weeks ago. I just started to look forward to improve myself in my weight as in lost as much as i can and gain muscle flex.gif (Dint take any protein supplement)

Currently i go to the gym every morning to workout. I use the treadmill as my warm up for around 10min, then i head to those machines to work my muscle out. *i need help here* i dont know how many set i need to do and which machines i should go and play around with.  cool2.gif

And during the night, i do home gym. Used the dumbell (9kg each side) and do sit up. For dumbell and sit up i do as many set as i could. 1 set = 10. I will rest  30sec in between for sit up.

As for my diet, i seldom take in food which is heavy in fat or sugar, i can say in a week i take in 2 to 4 times.
Here are my current in take of food.

Breakfast - A cup of milo with oats / 2 half boil egg (2 egg white and 1 york) with bread / ta pau food from the market. 
Lunch - Noodle Soup/ Economi rice
Tea - Something just take biscuits or even cereal with low fat milk.
Dinner - Normal dinner meals with family

I know my diet plan is very screw up, i really need help and advise to improve my workout plan and even my diet plan for me to get a healthy life and a health and nice body! biggrin.gif
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here's a starter,

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post Apr 26 2010, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 26 2010, 05:19 PM)
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the parts which i bold macam too generalized methinks although the HIIT lovers are crumbling again under the feet of slow steady cardio...good info for beginners with decent research...

as for the last part he should say 'healthy fats' for hard gainers...cuz nanti jadi gemok what for...

where's the sauce bro?
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that is why it is important to feel your body brooo.
What we read is not 100% accurate or tailor suit to fit our body.
But it can be used as a guide, feel your body and do what u feel is correct.
Take it as a guide smile.gif

ah but yes, it is abit generalized.
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Each form has its own pros and cons. Since your own shape has been predetermined by genetics, the key is to highlight your body’s strengths while masking its shortcomings. And once you understand your body type, you can tailor a program to bring out your best.



Added on April 26, 2010, 5:27 pm
QUOTE(ReonLim83 @ Apr 26 2010, 05:13 PM)
I simply can't do it sad.gif


Added on April 26, 2010, 5:15 pm
here's a starter,

Click
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wait are u all asking me for the SOURCE of the info??
or u asking me to put sauce on that fella for asking that question??
IM LOST here.

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post Apr 26 2010, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 26 2010, 05:29 PM)
Because pasting other people's article without linking to the original is considered stealing yo.. Just paste the url you got the article from smile.gif
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HAIYA!!!
itu dipanggil SOURCEE!!!!
aduhai.
wait up! LOL

i thought taruh SOS!
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post Apr 28 2010, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Neek @ Apr 27 2010, 08:06 PM)
Ouch bro.
well its frustrating on my end as i thought i was getting healthier while cutting and watching diet and all.
my last med check up was 2 years ago, it was ald high back then. so i was expecting it to drop. but it went UP instead. -.-"
After u mentioned hyper responder in the last post, i was really suspecting that too. I'm gonna stay away from yolks for the next 3 months and see how that goes.
sigh... how depressing. i love egg yolks. the sight, the taste.... oh well.
Thanks alot bro.
I eat beef only sparingly as its more expensive than chicken. BBing is ald expensive as it is tongue.gif
i only eat beef 1-3x a week.
Already taking oats, but thats in small amount for breakfast.

I was planning to start bulking in 17 days time. so with this in mind, its gonna be tougher. i guess i have to eat lots of clean food while bulking this time around. zzzz...
but perhaps thats a good thing.
Just to be safe, i better cut down a little bit on the fish oils too...
Thanks guys.
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i did my latest checkup december 09.

HDL = 0.81 mmol/L (normal shud be >1.03)
LDL = 3.13 mmol/L (normal shud be <2.58)

Total Cholesterol / HDL ratio = 5.9 (normal should be <5/0)
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post Apr 29 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 29 2010, 11:52 AM)
We changed venue to Devi's Corner. It's kinda our new hangout spot. Good burgers and awesome shisha.
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Where is this Devi's Corner???
hard to find a good shisha place nowdays.
most of them use cheap charcoal. aii..

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post Apr 29 2010, 03:16 PM

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is it the one near Alam Damai????


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post Apr 29 2010, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 29 2010, 04:09 PM)
huhu
i know where's devis in hartamas
slalu gak lalu that area cuz my gf likes the eateries in hatamas
can drop by whenever
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hartamas square is closing down rite?
police decided to take back the land.
wonder how much they make from renting that piece of land out....


went to this ABC mamak once, maybe can give it a try again soon.


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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 29 2010, 04:47 PM)
I'm shishaing there tonight haha.
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can't make it tonight, maybe weekends smile.gif
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 29 2010, 10:23 PM)
Hartamas????
I wanna eat steak everyday, too bad can't afford it. You get all the free creatine it comes with rare.
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yup hartamas is okay....
but they're closing down, they're moving to.... uhh...
i forgot where the kakak told me they're moving to....

actually if u bought the steak at supermarket and cook it yourself, its quite affordable though...
some supermarket pre-marinate em...


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QUOTE(munky @ Apr 30 2010, 01:54 AM)
hah closing down ? seriously ?
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yup closing down, the land belongs to the police,
so i guess they're building a police station there lor..
beside is bomba ma...


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QUOTE(tineagle @ Apr 30 2010, 05:43 PM)
ah, ok. thanks for sharing, i will continue to wait feeling a little more assured smile.gif
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u can check from the air waybill no with the courrier ma, see dekat mana sangkut.


Added on April 30, 2010, 5:48 pmbtw since someone mentioned about ordering online,
just wanna check, did the custom dept check the stuff we order?
did anyone experience stuff that was not allowed in by the customs etc???
always wanted to order online but affraid some of the stuff will be block by the customs dept.

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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 30 2010, 06:27 PM)
Nice, I recently switched back squats to smith machine squats too. Use less of glutes. Don't forget the leg presses heh.

Was in the gym today and saw this two tall, really skinny chinese dudes doing benchpress and cable crossovers, with weights too heavy for them, some I don't even use, squeeze a few half assed reps with each "spotting" with one hand, shouting motivation to each other. After finishing their set, they'll look around all cocky and thinking to themselves that they're so strong. Lousy form, heavy weights and stupid face doesn't go together.

Felt like punching them. Pfft.
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Kaki Gym?
alot of those people in the petang time.
try to come at night bro, alot of vetaran there. they're crazy but they dont shout.
although sometimes they let go of the weight to the floor which i dont really like la.


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QUOTE(Neek @ Apr 30 2010, 06:56 PM)
Yes they do.
every package i have received in the past will have a "Checked by customs" sticker or note attached to it.
i have ordered about up to 10 packages from BB.com in the past.

however, one of the later orders i made got stuck at customs once. They sent me a letter saying i need to pay some taxes/dunno what fee to get my stuff.
in that particular order was 3 tubs of Syntha-6 and glucosamine or was it BCAA... back then.
its similar to all my other orders actually.
Its not that it wasnt allowed, its just that i had to pay extra 50 bux to get my stuff.

I was playing safe by only ordering stuffs that was already sold locally.
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thats what i thought, sometimes i wanted to order stuff that's not in the local market but scared it'll get stuck at the custom area.


Added on April 30, 2010, 7:28 pm
QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 30 2010, 07:21 PM)
Bro, I would drop the weight than risk a sprain on my wrist if doing heavy presses.
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that would make sense but this people is okay, those college boy like those that John mentioned, they will take a 35-40 pound dumbell and start doing some stupid dont-know-what-kind-of-swinging-standing-dumbell-curl and after 4-5 reps throw it down on the floor, sometimes if the thing landed side way it will jump to the side, that is very harzerdous.


this old people although they drop it, but they make sure that their workout area is clear.
this young buggers just throw em down to get attention.
felt like punching em sometimes.
but usually even if i do heavy deadlift or leg presses or anything i usually will put the weights drop slowly...
sometimes if really can tahan then no choice have to let go, cant take the risk of injury.
sometimes is okay not ever damn set also throw it down. people also will look semacam man.

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post Apr 30 2010, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 30 2010, 08:21 PM)
I didn't know it was wrong to punch someone who has face problem. Chill la, my gf studies law, she'll bail me out anytime lol. icon_idea.gif
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Nope, its wrong but police cant take action bcoz you're using hand, unless its with weapon or u pukul separuh mati, until go icu or something, but u can be sued, but, not all lawyer will take this case, bcoz its damn mahfan. Ask ur gf, she shud know better.

Usually if the person make police report the police will just give u a warning, thats all..
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 30 2010, 08:52 PM)
err police can take action
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its well within their powers if they want to
can check the civil procedure code, police act etc...

and lawyers will take the case if it goes to court...with the right fee

anyway, this is out of topic bros
hahahaa
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Can but they wont trust me, lol, i dont think those skiny guys will dare to take john to court, lol, ok, back to topic, *cough*


Added on April 30, 2010, 8:58 pmokay! Gonna shower and hit the gym! Roars!
Arms arms arms + fore arm.

Btw darkie, do u do forearm? If yes any routine?

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 30 2010, 10:34 PM)
Adoi... I hate fighting. I don't even bother about these people. But then they leave me alone.

Yes, weighted masturbations. Tie plate to wrist and do it.
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I did standing barbell wrist curl + reverse, for some reason i cant do seated, wrist will feel funny + weak.


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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ May 1 2010, 12:24 AM)
Sigh....just ate McDonald's double spicy chicken mcdeluxe for dinner at 12 midnight. T.T

thought of leaving half behind but i dont like the idea of wasting food. will pay the price now.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Fuuuuuu...
I did that 2 days back n even worst mega mac yesterday... Fuuuu, but its tasty sad.gif

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QUOTE(chicaman @ May 3 2010, 12:02 AM)
here's a question

how many of you here actually swims every week? Frankly i dont know how to swim but put that aside, i just wana know tongue.gif

is swimming good for bodybuilding? as in a good type of workout to tone muscle?
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Yes but it'll take 3-4 years........
I dont know wat to say.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 3 2010, 12:26 AM)
depends on genetics and consistency of swimming and types of routine u do
back in high school ramai my chinese took up swimming from zero to brawny
and it took them around 1-2 years
tapi diet jaga and they swim consistently 5 days a week under professional supervision that is
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Yupsss
i cant just swim swim swim swim swim..
once in awhile is okay... but...
everyday?
adei....
gym is better.
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ May 4 2010, 11:30 AM)
I will try to see if i feel the pump effect today and will read the art tonight.

btw what i was complaining for the increment was referring to fat and not other things :$

I will work hard for the muscle.. smile.gif

thanks johnnie smile.gif
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Johnie???
my gaydar just went haywire.
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post May 4 2010, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(de.crystal @ May 4 2010, 11:55 AM)
oh i din know u have a gaydar, hmm meaning to say u are one  brows.gif
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if my submarine is equppied with a radar to detect an aeroplane that does not mean that my submarine is an aeroplane. Am I right?

I have gay friends but i'm not gay. are you?


Added on May 4, 2010, 1:31 pm
QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ May 4 2010, 11:44 AM)
yea wats with smiles and 'johnnie'.
it's good being nice but... (unless he's a she)

anyway de.crystal, regarding the question about 'pump', this comes with experience, once u have the muscles, u shall know...
and sometimes it's hard to understand your english too
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PUMP!
actually, even if you're not a bodybuilder, try running, you can feel the pump on your calves and hips/hems, but not that significant, sometimes not noticable.
its because of the muscle size / volume of blood flowing thru the muscle which is diff when u have big muscle / mass.

This post has been edited by ReonLim83: May 4 2010, 01:31 PM

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