Robertngo,

I am quite amused with your immediate relation of the 'Aliens' against human. About human landing on the moon, I don't really want to start with the whole conspiracy theory debacle. Let's begin being positive that is indeed we landed on the moon say 40 years ago. But do remember that the Apollo program was accomplished with two major setbacks: The first was the Apollo 1 launchpad fire that resulted in the deaths of astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee; the second was an oxygen tank rupture on Apollo 13 during the Moonward phase of its journey, which disabled the command spacecraft.

And do remember that Apollo 13 is 2 sequences before Apollo 11 (which is the most successful moon landing) after Apollo 1,7,8,9 and 10, whilst that occurrence happen. So are you trying to say that the Apollo 13 crew and those before, for not being able to land on the moon onwards to the mission, are in your own quotation as 'some stupid human pilots/astronauts' ?

Think again.

This post has been edited by Kernkraft400: Aug 1 2010, 12:28 AM

the moon landing program was the first time human landed on another space object, ever landing was successfull, the apollo 13 mission with malfunction have also return to earth safely. the are spectacular success of technology that does not exist just a few years ago. for a alien spaceship that are capable of intergalatic travel with faster than light speed it is fair to assume that they have hundred or even thousand of years of experience in doing space travel. i would have expect their space ship to be able to land on any planet without problem.

also for all the mission that suffer failure at landing like the shuttle and the mars robot, they are burn out before they reach the ground, have you seen any case that the space vehicle that are intact when crash landed?

now lets assume there are alien that crash landed on earth, which is a very small possibility, and the spaceship is largely intact after it hit the group, what would the government be able to gain from studying the spaceship, its technology that are develop for tens of thousand of year seperate from earth technology development, is there any possibility to adapt their technology? ore can we even be able to detect the alien ship and the alien species?

Here are some links for Bob Lazar's interview and if you goggle his name you might be able to find more.

http://users.skynet.be/bob.lazar/www.bobla...losed/tape.html
http://www.aliensonearth.com/area51/people...r/ultimate.html
http://www.aliensonearth.com/area51/people...odman_dec20.txt
http://www.aliensonearth.com/area51/people...huff_lazar.html
http://ufo.whipnet.org/area.51/bob.lazar/l...rview.1993.html
http://www.livephysics.com/physics-videos/...-interview.html
http://www.8newsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=3369879
http://www.rense.com/general72/recoll.htm
http://www.ufoera.com/articles/robert-laza...0190310641.html
http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Government_Scientist.htm
http://www.disclosureproject.org/transcrip...c703-edited.htm
http://ufo.whipnet.org/area.51/bob.lazar/l....synopsis2.html
Joe Vaninetti - Questions and Answers about Bob Lazar(PDF)
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...qZfQpZ3_o4QlrvQ
Bob Lazar's Timeline
http://www.ufo.it/testi/lazar1.htm

This post has been edited by Sau Seng La: Aug 5 2010, 04:00 AM

Im more interested if the Alien believe human even existed, such savages running around destroying oneself and steal resources from the planet.

But following the topic, I might say yes. The margin for any other life form to exist in this vast galaxy is believable.

yes I do.. but I dont coin them as aliens... rather santient being like you and me... only in different form.....

Aside from witness like Bob Lazar, there are literally thousands more out there who were being threatened and suppressed from telling the truth. There are individuals and organizations around the globe working diligently to have the government declassified documents and reports. We deserved to know the truth. Here is a link to a book with over 400 pages of testimonials and reports of sightings. Enjoy.

http://www.disclosureproject.org/access/do...ingDocument.pdf

This post has been edited by Sau Seng La: Aug 5 2010, 10:59 PM

this is a very selfish thinking isn't it?

they dont need to make all kind of claim and testimonials about seeing alien, the only thing they need to do the grab something from the alien space and show it to the world and surely no one can denied the fact alien have landed on earth, any piece of the space ship will do, it will be surely different from anything that exist on earth.

This post has been edited by robertngo: Aug 6 2010, 11:36 AM

sry , deleted

This post has been edited by ComposMentis: Aug 7 2010, 12:54 AM

Just a beginner's thought,

Let's say if aliens do exist, are we able to actually see or even contact them in person, ever?
Is it possible?

This post has been edited by LZ Zach: Aug 7 2010, 03:44 PM

u guys should read SITCHIN ...

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Added on August 8, 2010, 12:03 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGh2h8FE50o&feature=related

This post has been edited by fk2222: Aug 8 2010, 12:03 AM

i am strongly believe the existence of extraterrestrial life, but i am not sure whether aliens visit earth before.. if they had, which means their technologies are more advance than us and is dangerous for humanity because they can dominate earth without fear. If not, the aliens may be similar like us where they still don't have high-tech to travel in universe and so we are like competing in time to develop our spaceship to visit other planets first.

You didn't watch Transformers 2?? All our modern day technology are evolved from study on Megatron....hahaha.

Who are you to say that we didn't reversed engineers some of this aliens tech (if they do crash landed)?? Ex: micrchip getting smaller all the time and new process are discovered to make it more efficient..this is only one example. Needless to say, there's also many top secret technology in the US which is not available to the average joe.

how much posibility that the alien computer are base on silicon? are the alien weapon can be operated by human or practical for our military use. it is just too little possibility the technology developed for hundred of thousand year or even millions of years independent of human will be usable for us.

If u think about it, a creature that is able to travel across the universe, it means their technology maybe thousands or maybe millions of years more advance than us.
So, to them, we are like ants. For a creature trying to take over some creatures as sad as ants, that particular alien must suck real bad enough to make it want to take over civilization as sad as ants. It must be some low self-esteem alien or something

They have probably evolved beyond human instinctiveness to conquer and wage war. Maybe they already have even remove the need to eat...maybe they have some process to just synthesis energy/food directly into their bloodstream or something who knows.
To us, we are just like cavemen. Imagine, if we are the aliens in the spaceship arriving in a planet full of monkeys...will you be interested in them??

Maybe something like Star Trek is logical...Aliens don't give two hoots until we show some capability for space travels...ala Warp Level 1....

Oh...yeah...the Prime directive....Do not meddle with native civilations evolution. lol.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Aug 10 2010, 12:14 PM

After reading 5 pages, none of you actually seen this??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PihDBPpecPo

seriously , it looks very fake

On the contrary, I think it looks very believable, but its up to every own's interpretation and beliefs.

Oh wow. Thanks for posting that, I haven't seen it. Its very....entertaining.

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Added on August 12, 2010, 4:25 pmMaybe I should make it clearer, but humans are really easy to fool. Magicians know this very well. Often we miss the the sleight of hands or some other obvious detail because we were too focused on the object. I'm not going to spoil it for you guys....try to see if you can find what is wrong with that video.



This post has been edited by frags: Aug 12 2010, 04:25 PM