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Science Do you believe in ALIENS?, Astrophysicist Stephen Hawkin does

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jonathan5585
post Apr 26 2010, 05:28 PM

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Yes, there are plenty of planets in the universe and I personally don't think that all the planets got no life in it. I believe life exist almost everywhere. Those that's not living in our planet is an alien and vice versa (to "them", we are an alien too)

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post Apr 26 2010, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Apr 26 2010, 05:08 PM)
why do you think there is a connection between evolution of human species and the rate of scientific development?
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Cos there seems like a quantum leap in technology during the 20th century compared to the previous 10 centuries. So maybe alien spacecraft did crash into earth and the governments (like USA) managed to reverse-engineer the technology.

It's hard to explain the fiber optics, lasers, hologram technology, LED and many others which sprang up so soon after WW2.

Also, scientists cannot explain how come ancient monuments like Baalbek in Lebanon, where the ancient temple had many HUGE stone pillars weighing 800 tons. Even today, it is impossible to lift them using our technology. Just Google Baalbek.

Unless, they had some kind of outside help?

All questions with no satisfactory answers till today.


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post Apr 26 2010, 06:42 PM

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No. I believe our world is something like the Matrix, though the real event/world not necessary dominated by the machine, but ours is kind of like a dream.
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post Apr 26 2010, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Xepz @ Apr 26 2010, 05:40 PM)
Cos there seems like a quantum leap in technology during the 20th century compared to the previous 10 centuries. So maybe alien spacecraft did crash into earth and the governments (like USA) managed to reverse-engineer the technology.

It's hard to explain the fiber optics, lasers, hologram technology, LED and many others which sprang up so soon after WW2.

Also, scientists cannot explain how come ancient monuments like Baalbek in Lebanon, where the ancient temple had many HUGE stone pillars weighing 800 tons. Even today, it is impossible to lift them using our technology. Just Google Baalbek.

Unless, they had some kind of outside help?

All questions with no satisfactory answers till today.
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now you are making a huge assumption that alien technology can be reverse engineer into something that are usable for us, and secondly what you are saying is that the following nobel prize winner are liar?

Charles Hard Townes
Charles K. Kao
George A. Hockham
Nick Holonyak, Jr
Dennis Gabor
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post Apr 26 2010, 10:57 PM

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i think aliens exist and i think we should avoid the more advanced ones

imagine avatar, only with the roles reversed
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post Apr 26 2010, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Apr 26 2010, 10:51 PM)
now you are making a huge assumption that alien technology can be reverse engineer into something that are usable for us, and secondly what you are saying is that the following nobel prize winner are liar?

Charles Hard Townes
Charles K. Kao
George A. Hockham
Nick Holonyak, Jr
Dennis Gabor
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Not saying it's fact but only a possibility. In less than 100 years, we have space shuttles, sent men to the moon, nano technology, stealth technology, the internet, microchips, nuclear tech, particle collider, and what not. In less than 100 years, we have sprawling metropolises with huge skyscrapers that would have terrified even people just 150 years ago....Such amazing changes in so short a time span.

Perhaps such huge growth in < 100 years is not coincidental? Who knows......I'm just throwing something out here. Did we achieve all this alone, or is there something else to it?

Even past civilizations show such unexplainable technology like the Baalbek temple for one. So, I just wonder if aliens are here on earth, all this while, and been in contact with some humans...or we reverse engineered some high tech stuff from their crashed space ships. Truth can be stranger than fiction blink.gif

I don't care too much about the Nobel Prize, ironically, one of the current holders of this peace prize has just expanded war in Afghanistan....it's just a title. But I never said those winners are liars? rolleyes.gif

Imagination is more powerful than knowledge ~ Albert Einstein


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post Apr 27 2010, 10:42 AM

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Xepz,
Think of the quantum leap as a learning curve. It is slow at the begining then it increases exponentially. Instead of looking at it as an individual person, look at it a global scale. It it learning curve of the society's population.

As for the Baalbek, the same can be said of the Pyrimids. I am incline to think that people were more advance during the unrecorded history days. They are smart enough to tamper with nature and paid the price. They got wipped out (ice age, whatever). Look us today. Are we not screwing up mother nature, too?
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post Apr 27 2010, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Xepz @ Apr 26 2010, 11:50 PM)
Not saying it's fact but only a possibility. In less than 100 years, we have space shuttles, sent men to the moon, nano technology, stealth technology, the internet, microchips, nuclear tech, particle collider, and what not. In less than 100 years, we have sprawling metropolises with huge skyscrapers that would have terrified even people just 150 years ago....Such amazing changes in so short a time span.

Perhaps such huge growth in < 100 years is not coincidental? Who knows......I'm just throwing something out here. Did we achieve all this alone, or is there something else to it?

Even past civilizations show such unexplainable technology like the Baalbek temple for one. So, I just wonder if aliens are here on earth, all this while, and been in contact with some humans...or we reverse engineered some high tech stuff from their crashed space ships. Truth can be stranger than fiction blink.gif

I don't care too much about the Nobel Prize, ironically, one of the current holders of this peace prize has just expanded war in Afghanistan....it's just a title. But I never said those winners are liars? rolleyes.gif

Imagination is more powerful than knowledge ~ Albert Einstein
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Baalbek is not unexplainable, it is just no explaination have been agreed, many different technique can be use to move heavy object in that period. the Roman have crane that can lift 60 ton. 800 ton will require a lot of people and coordination but not impossible to then, today it is piece of cake with the crane we have, the world record for weight a crane can lift is 20000 tonnes.

there are continue research on the various way ancient people move huge stone with primitive technology listed here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megalithic_sites

able to lift heavy stone does mean that the people have advance technology, only if there are discovery of high tech instrument at this ancient time can we know that they have advance technology.

the growth of technology discovery was not accidental or happen suddenly, it is the result of the scientific movement since the Enlightenment, the Scientific revolution at the 17 century that lay the foundation for modern science to emerge. the age of reason free from the confine of religion. this development only accelerated during the 18,19,20 and now the 21 century.
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post Apr 27 2010, 04:26 PM

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Not untill I met one. xD
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post Apr 27 2010, 04:39 PM

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strange that line of thought dont apply to god wink.gif
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post Apr 27 2010, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Apr 27 2010, 04:39 PM)
strange that line of thought dont apply to god wink.gif
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lol ... what if 1 day, we meet god? now that will be awesome

i prolly dont want to meet abraham's god tho ... dem sadist ...

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post Apr 27 2010, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Apr 27 2010, 04:39 PM)
strange that line of thought dont apply to god wink.gif
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Swt , so you want to meet a god? That's a baddddd idea rclxub.gif between, kind of off topic =_=" The topic is not "Do you believe in GOD?" tongue.gif


QUOTE(spursfan @ Apr 27 2010, 05:27 PM)
lol ... what if 1 day, we meet god? now that will be awesome

i prolly dont want to meet abraham's god tho ... dem sadist ...
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LOL .. is there even a choice?

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post Apr 27 2010, 10:50 PM

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no, i just find it strange, that iirc you are a religious believer that believe in the existence of a supernatural god because of some scriptures, but yet hold the view that "i'll believe in aliens when i meet one"
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post Apr 27 2010, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Apr 27 2010, 10:50 PM)
no, i just find it strange, that iirc you are a religious believer that believe in the existence of a supernatural god because of some scriptures, but yet hold the view that "i'll believe in aliens when i meet one"
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God and alien are different =_= hmm, why are you relating it? I do not believe in GOD because of some scriptures..okay, don't want off topic already rclxub.gif

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post May 4 2010, 07:38 PM

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I dont believe in Aliens until i see them with my own eyes ._.
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post May 4 2010, 07:41 PM

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Nope. Cause i just can't imagine how were they formed. o_O

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post May 5 2010, 03:37 PM

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We got a few Ah Lians in my office but they are nothing like the aliens I see on tv.

There is no evidence* of extraterrestrial life yet. We can only calculate the probability of its existence. Google up the Drake Equation if you want to know how they calculate it.

Personally I think there is life out there. Its just a belief.


*Evidence that our very primitive sensors can pick up. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

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post May 5 2010, 04:38 PM

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drake equation is probably one one the most pointless "scientific" equation out there, a bunch of factors that can be any value depending on your guess/estimation.
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QUOTE(lin00b @ May 5 2010, 04:38 PM)
drake equation is probably one one the most pointless "scientific" equation out there, a bunch of factors that can be any value depending on your guess/estimation.
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Yup. I think they call it fuzzy logic, lol... biggrin.gif

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post May 5 2010, 05:24 PM

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google fuzzy logic and you'll know it has nothing to do with fuzzy logic

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