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SUSgarytong
post Apr 25 2010, 08:29 PM, updated 16y ago

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/scie...icle7107207.ece


Don’t talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

Jonathan Leake

THE aliens are out there and Earth had better watch out, at least according to Stephen Hawking. He has suggested that extraterrestrials are almost certain to exist — but that instead of seeking them out, humanity should be doing all it that can to avoid any contact.

The suggestions come in a new documentary series in which Hawking, one of the world’s leading scientists, will set out his latest thinking on some of the universe’s greatest mysteries.

Alien life, he will suggest, is almost certain to exist in many other parts of the universe: not just in planets, but perhaps in the centre of stars or even floating in interplanetary space.

Hawking’s logic on aliens is, for him, unusually simple. The universe, he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth is unlikely to be the only planet where life has evolved.

“To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational,” he said. “The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like.”

The answer, he suggests, is that most of it will be the equivalent of microbes or simple animals — the sort of life that has dominated Earth for most of its history.

One scene in his documentary for the Discovery Channel shows herds of two-legged herbivores browsing on an alien cliff-face where they are picked off by flying, yellow lizard-like predators. Another shows glowing fluorescent aquatic animals forming vast shoals in the oceans thought to underlie the thick ice coating Europa, one of the moons of Jupiter.

Such scenes are speculative, but Hawking uses them to lead on to a serious point: that a few life forms could be intelligent and pose a threat. Hawking believes that contact with such a species could be devastating for humanity.

He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and then move on: “We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.”

He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is “a little too risky”. He said: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”

The completion of the documentary marks a triumph for Hawking, now 68, who is paralysed by motor neurone disease and has very limited powers of communication. The project took him and his producers three years, during which he insisted on rewriting large chunks of the script and checking the filming.

John Smithson, executive producer for Discovery, said: “He wanted to make a programme that was entertaining for a general audience as well as scientific and that’s a tough job, given the complexity of the ideas involved.”

Hawking has suggested the possibility of alien life before but his views have been clarified by a series of scientific breakthroughs, such as the discovery, since 1995, of more than 450 planets orbiting distant stars, showing that planets are a common phenomenon.

So far, all the new planets found have been far larger than Earth, but only because the telescopes used to detect them are not sensitive enough to detect Earth-sized bodies at such distances.

Another breakthrough is the discovery that life on Earth has proven able to colonise its most extreme environments. If life can survive and evolve there, scientists reason, then perhaps nowhere is out of bounds.

Hawking’s belief in aliens places him in good scientific company. In his recent Wonders of the Solar System BBC series, Professor Brian Cox backed the idea, too, suggesting Mars, Europa and Titan, a moon of Saturn, as likely places to look.

Similarly, Lord Rees, the astronomer royal, warned in a lecture earlier this year that aliens might prove to be beyond human understanding.

“I suspect there could be life and intelligence out there in forms we can’t conceive,” he said. “Just as a chimpanzee can’t understand quantum theory, it could be there are aspects of reality that are beyond the capacity of our brains.”

Stephen Hawking's Universe begins on the Discovery Channel on Sunday May 9 at 9pm
SUSenjoice
post Apr 25 2010, 08:32 PM

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he's quite right
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:36 PM

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so what is this gotta do with the title?
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:39 PM

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"The universe, he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars."

if earth have living life-form... what about others? there are billions of galaxies, there might juz be another life-form out there.. who knows? its juz plain wrong to say he is stupid... there are possibilites..
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He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is “a little too risky”. He said: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”

that is putting it very, very mildly.

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post Apr 25 2010, 08:43 PM

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Mind to elaborate your title?
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:46 PM

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why should we believe a retard?
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(ico12 @ Apr 25 2010, 08:46 PM)
why should we believe a retard?
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No one ask you to believe, it's a speculation
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:51 PM

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Your title is a mockery. Please remove it
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(ico12 @ Apr 25 2010, 08:46 PM)
why should we believe a retard?
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its ok mate. not everyone born with intelligence to understand this kind of information.
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post Apr 25 2010, 08:53 PM

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Actually he's right. Soon fresh from earth for alien consumption.

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post Apr 25 2010, 09:05 PM

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people once believed that the world was flat. BELIEVED. like what TS is doing now. when ppl suggest the world is actually round, start to hurl insults and say this ridiculous say that impossible.

chimpanzee mwahahahhaha
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:06 PM

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I thought it was more like fifty-fifty - if there are intelligent beings out there, either our tech is better than theirs or theirs is.

Also, if you read sci-fi, you can find possible scenarios where aliens have advanced hyperspace technology but no nuclear weapons - so humans pwn them and take their tech and rule the universe. Heh.
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(ico12 @ Apr 25 2010, 08:46 PM)
why should we believe a retard?
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At least he contributed to the scientific thought more than you ever do and which you will never able to do so.
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:09 PM

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He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and then move on: “We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.”


Gotta agree with him there...
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:19 PM

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post Apr 25 2010, 09:19 PM

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TS, can u pls rename the title, coz it makes no f*cken sense...
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(Klesk @ Apr 25 2010, 09:19 PM)
TS, can u pls rename the title, coz it makes no f*cken sense...
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Agreed.
SUSgarytong
post Apr 25 2010, 09:24 PM

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It makes perfect sense.


If aliens can travel here, obviously they've mastered space travel at light speed, or faster, like wormhole.


There's absolutely NO f*cking way we can avoid contact or if we do get into conflict, we can never win them.



If we do contact with aliens at their planet, observing them, assuming they're primitive, they can't do harm to us anyway on their planet, not to earthlings from here.

At most, only to the earth explorers who go there.



So Stephen Hawking makes no sense... He's not that smart.

He lacks common sense.


You people here are idolizing him, without even daring to question his wisdom, or lack of, when it comes to common sense.

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QUOTE(garytong @ Apr 25 2010, 09:19 PM)
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i hope the aliens saw the same show rclxms.gif

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