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ycs
post Apr 26 2010, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 25 2010, 11:53 PM)
I am on 720p pj (which is the same model as yours). Can't wait to watch it. It must have been a salivating experience on FHD pj like pierreye and mys_terious  drool.gif  Have to save enough to get one  sweat.gif

-5dB  shocking.gif WOW! That's extremely LOUD. At most -12dB only  sweat.gif
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i even tried at 0dB!! i think i got too much shock absorber in the room thus can go loud... brows.gif
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post Apr 26 2010, 09:26 AM

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I watch most of my movie at -5db. Yeah, rockwool sound absorber rocks. A well treated room can play very loud without distortion.
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post Apr 26 2010, 11:30 AM

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FYI, over here... the movies you see in the cinemas in 3D come in a HDD format with X amount of digital code that you need to key in. The non-3D movies you see come in film format.

anyway, I was contemplating about getting Avatar BD but decided against it.. I'll wait for the 'special edition'.

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post Apr 26 2010, 11:45 AM

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There is no urge for me as I still haven't watched most of titles (no doubt most of them are double dip from dvd to BD) that I own so I'm gonna wait for special edition too.
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post Apr 26 2010, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(azxel @ Apr 26 2010, 11:30 AM)
FYI, over here... the movies you see in the cinemas in 3D come in a HDD format with X amount of digital code that you need to key in. The non-3D movies you see come in film format.
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While that it is the standard practice for most films, there are few exceptions. Angels & Demons was shown in 35mm and 2D Digital. The 2D digital was much better especially because it comes to the lossless sound.

The reason 35mm prints are the standard is most cineplexes have only one digital hall. So that means a 2D/3D digital print is locked into that hall until a new digital movie can replace it; right now though there are FOUR 3D movies (Dragon, Titans, Toy Story 1 & 2) that are choking up that schedule. In a fully digital cineplex, the interchangeability of the digital prints is possible, just like 35mm is now.

Distributors like digital prints because it's cheaper to produce and cheaper/easier to transport. But a full digital cineplex will take a long while to be implemented in Malaysia because of the "mesti tayang" rule, which means that Finas must get their own DCDI equipment to embed a security code to a local movie for its digital print.


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post Apr 26 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Apr 26 2010, 09:11 AM)
i even tried at 0dB!! i think i got too much shock absorber in the room thus can go loud... brows.gif
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I have about 10 of them in the room but not those 100kg type. Only 80kg rockwool measuring 2' x 4' and 2 pairs of Auralex LERND with few others acoustic foam for high freq.

My ears will start ringing if I crank it up above -10dB sweat.gif I had tried watching 'Top Gun' at reference level. Man, the whole room is being pressurized with immense power. Gave up in less than 5minutes.

Will be getting Avatar in few days time as my friend will watch it 1st.
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post Apr 26 2010, 04:41 PM

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Does anyone know where can I download this Avatar full BD version? I wanna try it on my HD media player and compare the PQ and AQ. Thanks.
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post Apr 26 2010, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Apr 26 2010, 01:05 PM)
While that it is the standard practice for most films, there are few exceptions. Angels & Demons was shown in 35mm and 2D Digital. The 2D digital was much better especially because it comes to the lossless sound.

The reason 35mm prints are the standard is most cineplexes have only one digital hall. So that means a 2D/3D digital print is locked into that hall until a new digital movie can replace it; right now though there are FOUR 3D movies (Dragon, Titans, Toy Story 1 & 2) that are choking up that schedule. In a fully digital cineplex, the interchangeability of the digital prints is possible, just like 35mm is now.

Distributors like digital prints because it's cheaper to produce and cheaper/easier to transport. But a full digital cineplex will take a long while to be implemented in Malaysia because of the "mesti tayang" rule, which means that Finas must get their own DCDI equipment to embed a security code to a local movie for its digital print.
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A&D Digital was good, but still a bit soft....

I tried to complain once when the sound system was way off (Pav Hall 4 - used to be only one in Pav, Journey To The Center Of The Earth 3D - yes, i even watch this crap just because it was in 3D), all i got was a nod and "ya, kita dah check". The sound remained crappy throughout the movie.

They had replaced the screen in Pav Hall 4, this is currently the only hall that shows all digital movies. And they had replaced the lens as the lens had some defect that can be seen on the screen. Now if they only change the screen in Gardens GSC Hall 2 (there are 3 patches easily seen).

All in, the cinemas are doing the change, but the changes are slow. And complaining to the Hall Managers will get you nowhere.

Still, i am thankful that GSC in Pav has done wonders to Hall 4, and this is THE place to be for a real good 3D experience.

And i was shock recently to see that Clash of the Titan 3D had chinese SUBs 1/3 from the bottom that covers much of the screen.... i'll be damned if this will be the future.... digital used to be my fav as there are no subs....


Added on April 26, 2010, 11:47 pm
QUOTE(hosiery2u @ Apr 26 2010, 04:41 PM)
Does anyone know where can I download this Avatar full BD version? I wanna try it on my HD media player and compare the PQ and AQ. Thanks.
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Dude, try tehparadox. They hv the full BD version there.... but.... go buy the ori BD la.... its only RM90


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QUOTE(Poadster @ Apr 26 2010, 11:45 PM)
Dude, try tehparadox. They hv the full BD version there.... but.... go buy the ori BD la.... its only RM90
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Avatar for RM90? If true, where to get this bro?
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post Apr 26 2010, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Apr 25 2010, 09:08 PM)
I watch in Penang Gurney Plaza GSC. I believe true 3D shouldn't blur the background. It depends on the viewer where to focus. If I focus on people, then our eyes will blur out the background. Just my opinion, no right or wrong answer.
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Try KL Pavilion Hall 4... the best for digital so far that i hv tried...

Again, not right or wrong.... but there are definite focus points in 3D movies.... the background will be blur (to a certain limit) as it "forces" you to look at the focal point and not the scenery..... lolz


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QUOTE(minimize @ Apr 26 2010, 11:49 PM)
Avatar for RM90? If true, where to get this bro?
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try robinlim in garage sales under PS3...

robimlim's BD sales thread

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post Apr 28 2010, 08:38 AM

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post Apr 28 2010, 08:59 AM

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Finished watching Avatar last night....

Story line...ok...but does bring message of environmental issue, how we not appreciates our forest and natural resources and how we do not understand the needs of our environment.....not only of the defending the nation

PQ & AQ....I can only say.....WOW!!!

I played at -12 with my setup...and for the 1st time, playing this loud, my wife did not complaint!! tongue.gif thumbup.gif

Was planing to view half (as it's late) but we end up finished it at around 12 midnight.....and the kids loves it!!! (now that's priceless....and don't care what other reviewer said on the content, we love it)
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Apr 28 2010, 08:59 AM)
Finished watching Avatar last night....

Story line...ok...but does bring message of environmental issue, how we not appreciates our forest and natural resources and how we do not understand the needs of our environment.....not only of the defending the nation

PQ & AQ....I can only say.....WOW!!!

I played at -12 with my setup...and for the 1st time, playing this loud, my wife did not complaint!! tongue.gif thumbup.gif

Was planing to view half (as it's late) but we end up finished it at around 12 midnight.....and the kids loves it!!! (now that's priceless....and don't care what other reviewer said on the content, we love it)
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wow!

How not to buy when you give such a review? tongue.gif
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post Apr 28 2010, 11:23 AM

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watched it on my HTPC with my 42" Full HD LCD last nite..... hahaha.....my kids sit there for almost 3 hours without moving, it's abnormal...... the PQ is near to perfect!! and the sq i can't say, coz i only using gigaworks s750... but oledi enuf to shake my living hall oledi.... tongue.gif
why so stupid to wait for special edition to release on nov 2010 (6 months from now)? while others are enjoying and discussing the movie in BD?? buy now, watch it....... and when the special edition/ ultimate edition/ 3D Director's Cut/ whatever edition release in Nov or 2011, buy again lar!!!


Added on April 28, 2010, 11:24 amRM90 nia mar...... dun be so kedekut lar.....

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post Apr 29 2010, 01:24 PM

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finally got my hand on the BD... superb clarity and detail!!!

Came a hard way playing it on my pch c200 w/ bdrom. Dint know BD+5 can cause me so much hassle.
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Just got 3x Avatar BDs along with LOTR Trilogy, and other movies from taukeh mpyw. Strangely, I did not manage to convert to bdmv from iso. Some sort of protection? Aiya....can't play with my media player liao for the other setup.
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post Apr 29 2010, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 29 2010, 02:33 PM)
Just got 3x Avatar BDs along with LOTR Trilogy, and other movies from taukeh mpyw. Strangely, I did not manage to convert to bdmv from iso. Some sort of protection? Aiya....can't play with my media player liao for the other setup.
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I can convert into BDISO without any problem wor
maybe the ripping is not complete? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(robinlim @ Apr 29 2010, 02:48 PM)
I can convert into BDISO without any problem wor
maybe the ripping is not complete?  hmm.gif
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how u do the ripping ah?
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post Apr 29 2010, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(robinlim @ Apr 29 2010, 02:48 PM)
I can convert into BDISO without any problem wor
maybe the ripping is not complete?  hmm.gif
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to bd iso is not a problem. The prob is from bd iso to m2ts
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post Apr 29 2010, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Maniac @ Apr 29 2010, 01:24 PM)
Came a hard way playing it on my pch c200 w/ bdrom.  Dint know BD+5 can cause me so much hassle.
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I don't know what your first sentence means. But Avatar BD comes with a BD+ update. If you don't upgrade your BD player's firmware, you can't play it.

QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 29 2010, 02:33 PM)
Just got 3x Avatar BDs along with LOTR Trilogy, and other movies from taukeh mpyw. Strangely, I did not manage to convert to bdmv from iso. Some sort of protection? Aiya....can't play with my media player liao for the other setup.
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See above.


QUOTE(robinlim @ Apr 29 2010, 02:48 PM)
I can convert into BDISO without any problem wor
maybe the ripping is not complete?  hmm.gif
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See above.

Some BDs do not come with BD+ because the studios (Warner, Sony) doesn't believe it poses a significant piracy threat - which is true because to DL 1080p would take a while. (And yeah, the file may say the resolution is 1080p but bit-rate is more revealing) Some studios like Fox and Lionsgate do employ BD+.




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