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Poadster
post Apr 25 2010, 07:23 PM

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I hv to agree the BD version of Avatar PQ is very clear and sharp, Cameron have insisted to putting only the movie at the highest bitrate for this BD.... notice there are anything else on the disc except the movie, menu, audios and subs?? Oh.. and the new DTS MA THX demo at the back....

Still, i do find the 3D version to be more captivating, with its depth of field and effects.... the main idea of a 3D movie is to show depth perception, and its relation to each other in the scene. Backgrounds and foreground scenes in 3D are NOT supposed to be sharp and clear..... just as our eyes cant focus on everything we see, only what we are focusing on will be clear and the rest are blur.... if u get a chance to watch 3D again.... the main subjects in focus are sharp, clear and full of details and the background and foreground will be blur.... (with exception of Clash of the Titan, 3D clarity and depth sucked)...

So far, the best 3D movie is How To Train A Dragon, with Avatar coming in 2nd.... the worst? Clash of the Titan.... which also stars Sam Worthington....

My 2 cents.... just watch 3D for the depth and distance, not on clarity of the whole scene....


Added on April 25, 2010, 7:27 pm
QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Apr 25 2010, 07:20 PM)
As i say nowaday many good HT can bet Cinema many time.. tongue.gif
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True, as many cinemas are still using 35mm film (with grain noise, dirt specks) on lighted projectors.... where as HT setups are running on pure digital images to digital FullHD panels....

Even as digital screen halls are matching up the the PQ of FullHD panels, there are too few of them in MY currently...

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post Apr 25 2010, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Apr 25 2010, 07:31 PM)
The problem with our local cinema is everything is soft. I had to disagree that 3D for background had be blur. I play games with 3D 10 years back I don't have a problem with blur background. Every object do pop out from the background and a very nice experience. The best is 3D with vibrant and sharp images.
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I am not saying that all backgrounds in 3D has to be soft/blur, but as some movies goes.....

I agree that most cinemas projectors are soft, thats due to the size of the screen and the distance of the projector as opposed to a HT setup....

Once u go digital (via HDTV), everything is soft in cinema halls.... even for the digital 2D/3D halls seems softer.... I saw Terminator Salvation in a digital hall, and the PQ still losses to the BD version.....

Bro, where are u catching the 3D movies?? Which cinema and which halls?? I have seen ALL the 3D movies that are out in cinemas, mostly in Pavilion Hall 4, Hall 13, and more recently Toy Story 1+2 in 3D in The Gardens GSC Signature Hall 2....

I actually find Toy Story 1+2 is a clear, crisp as the BD version.... with the added bonus of them being in 3D.... and no, most of the backgrounds are not blur.....

Peace.... just my 2 cents...

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post Apr 26 2010, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Apr 26 2010, 01:05 PM)
While that it is the standard practice for most films, there are few exceptions. Angels & Demons was shown in 35mm and 2D Digital. The 2D digital was much better especially because it comes to the lossless sound.

The reason 35mm prints are the standard is most cineplexes have only one digital hall. So that means a 2D/3D digital print is locked into that hall until a new digital movie can replace it; right now though there are FOUR 3D movies (Dragon, Titans, Toy Story 1 & 2) that are choking up that schedule. In a fully digital cineplex, the interchangeability of the digital prints is possible, just like 35mm is now.

Distributors like digital prints because it's cheaper to produce and cheaper/easier to transport. But a full digital cineplex will take a long while to be implemented in Malaysia because of the "mesti tayang" rule, which means that Finas must get their own DCDI equipment to embed a security code to a local movie for its digital print.
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A&D Digital was good, but still a bit soft....

I tried to complain once when the sound system was way off (Pav Hall 4 - used to be only one in Pav, Journey To The Center Of The Earth 3D - yes, i even watch this crap just because it was in 3D), all i got was a nod and "ya, kita dah check". The sound remained crappy throughout the movie.

They had replaced the screen in Pav Hall 4, this is currently the only hall that shows all digital movies. And they had replaced the lens as the lens had some defect that can be seen on the screen. Now if they only change the screen in Gardens GSC Hall 2 (there are 3 patches easily seen).

All in, the cinemas are doing the change, but the changes are slow. And complaining to the Hall Managers will get you nowhere.

Still, i am thankful that GSC in Pav has done wonders to Hall 4, and this is THE place to be for a real good 3D experience.

And i was shock recently to see that Clash of the Titan 3D had chinese SUBs 1/3 from the bottom that covers much of the screen.... i'll be damned if this will be the future.... digital used to be my fav as there are no subs....


Added on April 26, 2010, 11:47 pm
QUOTE(hosiery2u @ Apr 26 2010, 04:41 PM)
Does anyone know where can I download this Avatar full BD version? I wanna try it on my HD media player and compare the PQ and AQ. Thanks.
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Dude, try tehparadox. They hv the full BD version there.... but.... go buy the ori BD la.... its only RM90


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post Apr 26 2010, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Apr 25 2010, 09:08 PM)
I watch in Penang Gurney Plaza GSC. I believe true 3D shouldn't blur the background. It depends on the viewer where to focus. If I focus on people, then our eyes will blur out the background. Just my opinion, no right or wrong answer.
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Try KL Pavilion Hall 4... the best for digital so far that i hv tried...

Again, not right or wrong.... but there are definite focus points in 3D movies.... the background will be blur (to a certain limit) as it "forces" you to look at the focal point and not the scenery..... lolz


Added on April 26, 2010, 11:53 pm
QUOTE(minimize @ Apr 26 2010, 11:49 PM)
Avatar for RM90? If true, where to get this bro?
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try robinlim in garage sales under PS3...

robimlim's BD sales thread

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