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post Apr 24 2010, 05:37 PM, updated 16y ago

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I bought an Xbox 360 Arcade from a guy who uses jazzvtec as id in Lowyat forum. Before the deal i asked him several questions to confirm the specifications and conditions of the Xbox 360 unit. He told me it was a Jasper set with 512mb blablabla. He was selling at RM700 and after I negotiated with him the final price was RM680. The console is a modded one, I had no intention of playing pirated games as I wanted to go online. From my knowledge, I thought if I play original games I won't get banned which later on i found it wasn't true. I was regret for buying this console due to the attractive offer and price given. So the seller told me the console 'so far' has no any sign of problems at all.
So i agreed the deal with him.

Later that day, he sms'ed me and said there were few other people offering him. His reason of selling off his console was to pay his house rent, which i felt kinda suspicious. But still I didn't bother. He said any buyer who was fast enough to pay and deal with him will get it. So i started to discuss with him and asked him to reserve for me etc. He said if other buyers didn't turn up the next day he will get back to me. Later that night I banked in deposit of RM50 for him. Then he reserved for me. After the following days we both discussed the location to complete cod. We confirmed the location which was around Prangin Mall area in Penang, lunch hour 1-2pm, Monday 19th April 2010.

At that day, we both turned up and did cod. I admit it was my fault to not check the console properly as it is a second hand unit. I didn't do much research carefully before buying a second hand Xbox 360. To be honest, I totally didn't know what a standard set should come with. The Xbox 360 Arcade unit from this seller actually came with 256mb memory card, yes memory card which should be obviously a set below Jasper. But I didn't know at all. After completed cod, after a few days only I did some research and found out the Xbox360 to be actually a Falcon set. It has 175W PSU, 14.5A ratings if im not mistaken. And also, the memory size offered by the seller which was 512mb, came with 256mb memory card only. It also overheated one time but until now i bought it for 6days I ran it like 3+hours only. I immediately called him up to clarify.

He did answer the call, I told him everything. Then this was that he said to me, he said I as a buyer should check everything before I buy. He said I paid the money to him myself and after a few days only i call him and ask him things. He was like putting the blame on me. He said he himself also didn't know the Xbox 360 he bought was actually a Falcon set instead of Jasper and the shop he bought the console from claimed it to be a Jasper set. Then I asked him he said the console comes with 512mb but why only came with 256mb. He said I didn't check properly and this is only a small matter. I admit I didn't check properly that day, I will not buy second hand stuffs in the future as well already. He said, as long as the console is playable then no big deal.I asked him how to claim warranty if problems occurred. He asked me to give him one week time TO FIGURE OUT how to solve it. FINE! As i couldn't do anything as well.

Just today, i pressed the power button. Guess what, 3RROD appeared. I was frightened and nervous. Again, I immediately called him up. He didn't pick up my calls for the first few times. Then around 15minutes later he answered. I told him the console just 3RRODed. I just bought it for few days then it 3RRODed. I asked him what to do. He said there is nothing he can do now and said before he sold it to me the console was working fine without any problems. Then I said is there any warranty for this. He said he's not sure because he also lost the recipe and not sure whether is there any warranty for 3RROD. I can't really recall our conversation but I was like too freaked out and thought maybe he sold problematic Xbox360. So I like said something to me like he is trying to cheat or whatever. He got mad and said how to blame things on him because before he was using the console there were no problems at all. I said i understand but it is really weird because I just bought it back a few days and it 3RRODed. He got even mad and pulled out his rude things. 'How the f*** can you do this? You bought it and was so excited to buy it and fast fast grabbed it back, I didn't force you to buy. You got problem already now call me and talk like im cheating you? etc etc. I said im not saying that he's cheating me and called him to calm down. He said" I talked to you politely and you talk to me now like im cheating you or what." I explained to him etc. I asked again what to do now how to claim the warranty. He said he not siok already I spoiled his weekend and he wanted to leave the problem to me. I convinced him and after another long conversation, he said he will FIGURE OUT how to solve the problem instead of CLAIM the warranty for me or help me to claim the warranty. As he explained, he doesn't even know is there any warranty for 3RROD but before I buy he stated there was warranty. Im really freaked out now and don't even know what to do. All I can say is hopefully he will FIGURE OUT the solution and I can exchange or what. If not, I lost RM700 over. Seriously, I get this experience and I WON'T buy second hand stuffs anymore.

Please advice me please I need you guys' help.

This post has been edited by RazerRazeTheWorld: Apr 24 2010, 05:44 PM
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post Apr 24 2010, 05:42 PM

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well, it did RROD while in your possession. nothing much you can cry on.
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post Apr 24 2010, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(balthauser @ Apr 24 2010, 05:42 PM)
well, it did RROD while in your possession. nothing much you can cry on.
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Yes its true, but still I don't think it didn't have any problems at all before this. And, he claimed it to be Jasper but eventually i found out it is in fact a Falcon. He still put the blame on me like he has nothing to do with it at all.
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post Apr 24 2010, 05:57 PM

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honestly a falcon set, after repair. the same problem will appear soon. I guess you need to buy from some trustworthy guys.
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post Apr 24 2010, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(chris@cstorie @ Apr 24 2010, 05:57 PM)
honestly a falcon set, after repair. the same problem will appear soon. I guess you need to buy from some trustworthy guys.
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This is truely a nightmare to me. Lost RM700+ that easily? Anyhow I gotta figure out something to solve this problem. Again, hopefully the guy will FIGURE OUT the solution for this.
Really driving me nuts as im just a college student.
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post Apr 24 2010, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(RazerRazeTheWorld @ Apr 24 2010, 06:08 PM)
This is truely a nightmare to me. Lost RM700+ that easily? Anyhow I gotta figure out something to solve this problem. Again, hopefully the guy will FIGURE OUT the solution for this.
Really driving me nuts as im just a college student.
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you from penang right? nowadays getting a new one not that expensive. add on RM100 like this you can get a new one like him. RM8xx also can get.
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post Apr 24 2010, 06:22 PM

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The only thing u can buy second hand is handheld consoles and games... Xbox is definitely a no no... A cheap refurbish set still ok.. But u can actually get frm ebay with omost same price, no HDD but new console..

Anyway, u try set up another account for the Xbox.. and then go Xbox live Singapore on PC... login>support >contact support and register... but i guess ur warranty will be voided since it modded.. so.. u have to pay..

i duno whether u can ask to refurbish onot.. u will have to call their support service for this matter... if u ask to refursbish in gameshop...have to pay more.. omost same like getting new set ... but, am not very sure about this..

ichris@cstorie got do repair and he says its the same even after repair.. well, u can consult him more..

This post has been edited by lilko: Apr 24 2010, 06:27 PM
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post Apr 24 2010, 06:30 PM

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post your complain in here
http://forum.lowyat.net/TradeZoneHelpdesk&...esolutionCorner


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post Apr 24 2010, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(RazerRazeTheWorld @ Apr 24 2010, 06:08 PM)
This is truely a nightmare to me. Lost RM700+ that easily? Anyhow I gotta figure out something to solve this problem. Again, hopefully the guy will FIGURE OUT the solution for this.
Really driving me nuts as im just a college student.
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there's the problem. don't just let other people figure out the solution for you, you should be the one that look for the solution.

at least his statement have 1 point that you can argue back. that is he say it's Jasper, but turn out it's a Falcon. that's like saying the seller says it a Wira 1.5 but turn out it's a Wira 1.3. it's a strong enough argument to get your refund back.

of coz, if you have done some research on how to differentiate a Jasper set, you wouldn't be in this mess.
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post Apr 24 2010, 08:04 PM

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ya bro...that is the point...that is the lesson for ur mistake...take and learn it...
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post Apr 24 2010, 08:59 PM

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100% ah foo is tct !
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post Apr 24 2010, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(chris@cstorie @ Apr 24 2010, 06:20 PM)
you from penang right? nowadays getting a new one not that expensive. add on RM100 like this you can get a new one like him. RM8xx also can get.
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Seriously? Damn i was really stupid.


Added on April 24, 2010, 9:20 pm
QUOTE(lilko @ Apr 24 2010, 06:22 PM)
The only thing u can buy second hand is handheld consoles and games... Xbox is definitely a no no... A cheap refurbish set still ok.. But u can actually get frm ebay with omost same price, no HDD but new console..

Anyway, u try set up another account for the Xbox.. and then go Xbox live Singapore on PC...  login>support >contact support and register... but i guess ur warranty will be voided since it modded.. so.. u have to pay..

i duno whether u can ask to refurbish onot.. u will have to call their support service for this matter... if u ask to refursbish in gameshop...have to pay more.. omost same like getting new set ... but, am not very sure about this..

ichris@cstorie got do repair and he says its the same even after repair.. well, u can consult him more..
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You mean its pointless for getting it to be repaired? If the seller really can't figure out the solution and i can't claim warranty or what I might sell it as a faulty console. No choice already I admit it happened due to my stupidity. Thanks for ur suggestions anyway.


Added on April 24, 2010, 9:23 pm
QUOTE(xxboxx @ Apr 24 2010, 07:59 PM)
there's the problem. don't just let other people figure out the solution for you, you should be the one that look for the solution.

at least his statement have 1 point that you can argue back. that is he say it's Jasper, but turn out it's a Falcon. that's like saying the seller says it a Wira 1.5 but turn out it's a Wira 1.3. it's a strong enough argument to get your refund back.

of coz, if you have done some research on how to differentiate a Jasper set, you wouldn't be in this mess.
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Like i mentioned already. I admitted it was my fault for not doing any research before i buy. I tried to argue with the seller. Didn't work out as he said himself also didn't know it was a Falcon. But its fishy to me. What else can i do anyway?


Added on April 24, 2010, 9:24 pm
QUOTE(AH FOO @ Apr 24 2010, 08:15 PM)
u sohai lor.. buy second hand is like this wan lah...
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Are u blind or what? I opened this thread to seek help and advice.

This post has been edited by RazerRazeTheWorld: Apr 24 2010, 09:24 PM
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post Apr 24 2010, 10:21 PM

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bro...now what is ur plan....
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QUOTE(RazerRazeTheWorld @ Apr 24 2010, 09:18 PM)

Added on April 24, 2010, 9:23 pm
Like i mentioned already. I admitted it was my fault for not doing any research before i buy. I tried to argue with the seller. Didn't work out as he said himself also didn't know it was a Falcon. But its fishy to me. What else can i do anyway?
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well, he promised it's a Jasper but turn out to be Falcon. would you buy it if knowing it's a Falcon? no right? so this is your point to ask for refund. it was his own mistake advertising it as a Falcon, not yours.

RM700 is quite a high price to pay for learning a lesson for mistake..
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QUOTE(ekortupa @ Apr 24 2010, 10:21 PM)
bro...now what is ur plan....
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Wait for the seller's feedback. If there is warranty for this then of course will claim it.
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post Apr 24 2010, 10:24 PM

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if the seller is honestly....seller must refund back ur money....pity for u bro...


Added on April 24, 2010, 10:25 pmi think that guy dah lariiii mlm lor.....

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post Apr 24 2010, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Apr 24 2010, 10:21 PM)
well, he promised it's a Jasper but turn out to be Falcon. would you buy it if knowing it's a Falcon? no right? so this is your point to ask for refund. it was his own mistake advertising it as a Falcon, not yours.

RM700 is quite a high price to pay for learning a lesson for mistake..
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Totally, but he just put the blame on me like i mentioned. He said I as a buyer didn't check carefully before I buy. He meant like everyone must check everything in detailed if missed out one thing its ur own business. His intention is clear, he is not going to refund me anything. But why he himself didn't also check the console before he buys at the first place. I tried to argue with him, but he got mad and was going to leave the problem to me.


Added on April 24, 2010, 10:30 pm
QUOTE(ekortupa @ Apr 24 2010, 10:24 PM)
if the seller is honestly....seller must refund back ur money....pity for u bro...


Added on April 24, 2010, 10:25 pmi think that guy dah lariiii mlm lor.....
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I think its obvious already this seller wants only his money. The thing he said he will figure out until now I still half believe only.

This post has been edited by RazerRazeTheWorld: Apr 24 2010, 10:30 PM
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A new xbox arcade is only 199 USD... Somemore USD drop so much now (3.189) as i am typing this.... go amazon buy then ship international also worth it lor.

But then xbox games are region locked, and US version only support 110V
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oni 1 thing came to my mind right now....
u've got cheated by un-responsible seller.i'll think that console already facing the same prob and repaired by seller.he knew that the prob will occur again then simply sell it to you and tell u that the console is in a great conditon. as for i know alto it was a falcon..it didnt supposedly get 3rod so easily in a few days...

do both of you agreed for a personal warranty with each other? if yes and still in the warranty..u can get it refund.

and also u still have a good reason to get ur refund back by arguing bout the falcon/jasper misunderstanding...
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post Apr 24 2010, 10:53 PM

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bro...my advice ..u jangan berkasar dengan seller...talk with him politely ...dont scold him...once u got ur money back...baru lah marah ke ape ke....use ur brain to settle this problem....not with anger....

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