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Photography Micro Four Thirds (m43) User Thread V2, Panasonic G/GH/GFx & Olympus E-P/E-PLx

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post Jul 13 2010, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 13 2010, 05:37 PM)
Got myself an EVF VF-2.. 2 days ago.. i would say well worth.. after using VF-2, i never use the LCD anymore to take photos except for picture preview.. I dont know wat to say but when you look into it, its like another different world soooooooooooooo pweeettttyyyyyyyyyy.. is all i can say. But this is an expensive upgrade due to E-PL1's sucky LCD with only 230k pixel and VF-2 its with 1,440,000 pixel if im not mistaken..

will post a picture of the VF-2 with the camera with it soonish !
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yeah, 230k is a bit on the low side with mostly dSLR LCD at higher resolution...
congratz on the VF-2..
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post Jul 14 2010, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Jul 13 2010, 08:33 PM)
No doubt the LCD for EP series cam really sucks, can't get use to it after been using my D90's 920k lcd, wanna check for proper focus also hard sad.gif
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Yah, but for me, it does just fine... but could be better... but this only apply to those who want to manual focus. For AF, I believe LCD resolution does
not really matter. Unless you want to check result... sweat.gif

QUOTE(davidmak @ Jul 13 2010, 11:12 PM)
I think my E-PL1 is ready for prime time now biggrin.gif. Fixed a few issues after several testing. First it was the focusing with F1.7 and second I notice a bright pixel on normal pictures. Even shooting a dark frame reveal some 'spots'. Fortunately the pixel mapping is useful here. I did one round and they are now all compensated and no longer show in my shots.

For those who plan to use this utility, it is in the custom menu and at the last section called Utility. Remember that pixel mapping is irreversible so don't do it everyday tongue.gif. Olympus seems to recommend using it like once or twice a year.

By the way, does anyone have any knowledge about lens back/front focusing on a contrast based AF? Does it apply for CDAF or this is only a phase detect AF related issue?
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Wow, got dead pixel.. hmm.gif yeah, the pixel mapping is quite nice. No need to send back to Olympus to do it.

Not sure about front or back focussing thing. I thought its related to calibration issue and if that so, it should apply to both. But I could be wrong sweat.gif

QUOTE(jacklsw86 @ Jul 14 2010, 08:28 AM)
anybody tried fixing nissin 466 for 4/3 flash? how does it perform? I'm planning to get one for my gf1 smile.gif
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frequency has it... hopefully he can give his opinion..
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post Jul 14 2010, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(frequency @ Jul 14 2010, 11:25 AM)
Seldom using the Di466 especially after getting my 20mm

Another reason, it looks harsh since I still can't find diffuser for it.
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why not you bounce it off the wall? still harsh? how about setting it to lower the flash power? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jul 14 2010, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(joeong @ Jul 14 2010, 12:33 PM)
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sifus pls gime shoting tips!   shocking.gif
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Not sifu here.. but I think these three photo is awesome... it capture the atmosphere.. nice nice thumbup.gif

Added on July 14, 2010, 1:41 pm
QUOTE(D@Ne @ Jul 14 2010, 12:01 PM)
Hi all,

When shooting with my EP2 today. Suddenly I noted that the usual in focus 'beep' sound is not there. Power off and on few times and even switched to different lens, still same. Anyone had this experience before or have I accidentally disable anything?
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How about doing a full camera reset? It fix my previous issue...kekeke..

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post Jul 14 2010, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(joeong @ Jul 14 2010, 02:44 PM)
added a crop/unedited pic of my fav pic
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yeah, I think this cropped picture also I like... thumbup.gif without crop, nothing special smile.gif
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post Jul 14 2010, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jul 14 2010, 03:11 PM)
aiyor... all this poisoning make me gatal GF1 again.
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lol... I also gatal for NEX... frm the advertisement poisoning.. haiz.. i need to get rid of
gadget bug liao...
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post Jul 14 2010, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jul 14 2010, 03:27 PM)
Here's a shot took today at the Butterfly Park. Straight from the camera JPEG but resized. I also included a 100% shot of the wings to show the sharpness of the Lumix G 20mm F1.7.

By the way, its really hard to focus small objects with the E-PL1. Anyone has better ideas on focusing with the big box?

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nice nice... very sharp...

I think its hard to focus with big box... there's no help unless Olympus change the firmware...

so we have to live with it sad.gif
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Jul 14 2010, 03:32 PM)
bought my GF1 last week combo with 20mm pancake.hehe.anyway,is there any different if i use normal SD card or Extreme version ?
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check the speed... if the speed same, then there's no different. Those are name only. You
have to know the READ and Write speed...

Wuahaha is right... get at least Class 6... I use lower class before and my movie taking with 720p also
not smooth... so get Class 6...

QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jul 14 2010, 03:33 PM)
I also kena before until I went to test test the NEX last weekend. Then my poison cured liao.
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oo0oo... maybe I should go cure my poison.. sigh...
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post Jul 14 2010, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jul 14 2010, 05:34 PM)
Gogogogo!!!
Poison sure cure wan after you try the nex.. why do you think I can get recurring GF1 poison.
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haha... okok..thanks bro...
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QUOTE(yinyum @ Jul 14 2010, 09:43 PM)
the 14-45mm lens? this is not the pancake lens right? becoz the sales person actually recommended me to get the pancake lens. But if i go for EPL-1, the price of paying for GF1 can allow me to go for EPL-1 twin lens package sad.gif
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I recommend either GF1 or E-PL1....

14-45mm is zoom lens. Means it go from wide to tele.
During group photography, you might need wide (14) so that more people can be inside the photo.
Sometimes you can zoom to 45mm...
This means, this lens is versatile to use. But in low light, meaning indoor, it'll not perform good.
Meaning, you might get dark, noisy or blur photo.

Pancake is 20mm f/1.7. f/1.7 means its bright. So you can use it indoor. Most photographer will
want a bright lens. You can take photo indoor with your friend and family and the photo come out
will be bright and fantastic.

With GF-1, using 20mm will not be stabilize. With E-PL1, using 20mm, it'll be awesome because it
is stabilize. What this means is, compare to GF-1, photo taken with E-PL1 will be brighter with
20mm lens.

But you cannot bundle E-PL1 with 20mm pancake. If you buy single lens E-pL1 = RM2200 + pancake (RM1300) = RM3500
which is very expensive. if you want cheaper route, get GF-1 with 20mm but it is not stabilized.

If you get GF-1 with 14-45mm, it'll be more versatile. So you choose between better versatility of
14-45mm or better indoor photo taking ability. I'll choose better photo taking ability anytime.
So GF-1 with Pancake is my recommendation. The other thing is, the pancake is smaller than the 14-45mm...!!!!!

Of course, if you can go for E-PL1 + Panasonic pancake, it'll be awesome. But.... some people find
the autofocus unsatisfactory like davidmak. That's why he think GF-1 is better.. lol...

To me, best combo will be E-PL1 with 20mm f/1.7... it'll be low light combo...

I also suggest you take a look at Sony NEX. Try m43 and Sony NEX and decide your self.

Go to shop. Try the autofocus with different lens. See if they are fast to take photo.

But a lot of people swear by Olympus E-PL1 because the color of the picture it take out of camera is beautiful
without any processing. If you don't want use photoshop, E-PL1 is the better camera to go with. If you can
get E-PL1 with Olympus 17mm f/2.8 also not bad. I dunno if there's such combo or not.
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post Jul 14 2010, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Jul 14 2010, 10:53 PM)
Lol just buy EP2 with 17mm F2.8 or GF1 with 20mm F1.7
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well, I wouldn't recommend E-P2.. it has no built in flash.. it's very important.. maybe not to you... but
really, its important to the rest of us.... sweat.gif

QUOTE(davidmak @ Jul 14 2010, 11:00 PM)
Actually coming from personal experience, a compact camera user may be more accustomed to zoom. If you give them a prime lens, they may find it inadequate. Also that F1.7 with the thin DOF may spell trouble if he/she is not familiar with focusing. Of course normal shots would do just fine but if you get close it may be potentially a problem.

The 14-45mm kit is also very fast which may present a good upgrade for the user. Shutter speed shouldn't be a problem because compact cameras aren't fast anyway haha!
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I don't think she'll get close like you. Coming from compact camera, I assume she just want to take casual photo
like party and go to holiday. Pancake will do fine because its small.
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Jul 15 2010, 03:38 AM)
ohh..so the low the class,the faster it will store the file right ? it will stated on the SD what class it fall right ?
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Class 2 - slowest
Class 4 - middle speed
Class 6 - fastest

By the way, now got Class 10 already...kekeke... or maybe more... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Jul 15 2010, 09:41 AM)
Don't need to spend a lot of money on very fast memory card la, just buy a class 4 SHDC will do, u can't do 8fps burst shooting RAW anyway so why do u even need very fast SDHC? Just buy more capacity will do, my class 10 SDHC is always on my D90 while my toshiba class 4 SDHC on my EP2 smile.gif
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Have you try to record movie extensively (more than few minutes)?

I think Class 6 is smoother in this case. Although Class 4 maybe still can handle. But Class 2 definitely not. It'll
stop recording after 1 minute if my memory serve me right.
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post Jul 15 2010, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Jul 15 2010, 09:52 AM)
Seems that not much GF-1 users shoot raw. All Jpeg only how to see the true beast on GF-1.
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you can't blame us bro. If we buy m43, means we're majority casual shooter coming frm
compact camera.

Probably you can be like samurail33t and post some Post process raw shot from GF-1!!!
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QUOTE(yinyum @ Jul 15 2010, 10:35 AM)
Thank you for ur long and detailed reply! actually i asked my fren to quoted me the best price for GF1 + pancake lens is RM3100 (cash), then E-PL1 twin lens package is RM2880 (cash). If E-PL1 single lens plus pancake lens is RM3500, then i can just go for this combo lor. But now i got another model on mind after i saw the SONY web page, the NEX 5 / NEX 3 good? The body is so small but lens is bigger than body, the proportion really so weird lah. But i wont mind if it captures very nice DSLR quality pictures
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good also... see which one you like...

although we all M43 user, we want you to make your own decision. Both E-PL1, GF-1 and NEX image quality is good. You can't go wrong with NEX or m43.
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QUOTE(yinyum @ Jul 15 2010, 01:08 PM)
any idea how much the NEX costs?
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RM1999 and above. Every shop different price. Its better you check out in the store.

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QUOTE(nutrinos @ Jul 15 2010, 02:03 PM)
I would prefer this combo

Pany 7-14
Oly 14-150
Pany 20/1.7
VF2
Oly EPL1

Currently got the EPL1 14-42
LeicaM 35/1.4 n 90/2.8

Arriving soon EP2(black) 17/2.8/VF2/extra bat. This cam is for my dad.

Am looking to fit on the Sony 0.7 wide angle 37mm tread onto the Oly 17mm 37mm tread making it a 24mm wide lens. Has anyone tried this combo? Ofcourse this is a temporary measures for the coming vacation to China
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WWWWooooooWWWWWWWWW


Panny 7-14mm is one of the venerated lens for UWA
Oly 14-150mm is best multipurpose lens because very small
Panny 20mm is best low light lens
VF2 is great for MF
E-PL1 have the greatest JPEG engine..
Wow wow... wink.gif

E-P2 is great...
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jul 15 2010, 03:08 PM)
Hey guys,

Anyone of you have enrolled in the PEN training scheduled this Saturday? I just got confirmation for a seat. Wanna try out some nice lenses there hehe...
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wah ,wah... if I were in KL, i sure register. Please take some photo ya...
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post Jul 15 2010, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(yinyum @ Jul 15 2010, 03:48 PM)
is the warranty for Olympus camera Local? or international? becoz i'm currently working in Singapore, I'm not sure should I purchase it in KL or SG
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Olympus digital camera is Worldwide warranty after April 1, 2004:
http://www.olympusimage.com.sg/warranty/

Meaning, buy in Singapore, valid in Malaysia also.

http://www.olympus.co.jp/en/support/imsg/d...nfo20040319.cfm

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We would like to express our thanks for your continued support to Olympus products.

OLYMPUS IMAGING CORPORATION is pleased to announce the launch of "new worldwide repair service warranty for our digital cameras and accessories" which will take effect as of April 1, 2004.

Until now, repair service warranty for Olympus digital cameras and accessories has been provided on a domestic/regional basis, with service only being available in the country/region in which a product was originally purchased. Beginning April 1, 2004, however, our warranty service will be offered on an international basis, irrespective of where the product was originally purchased. If problems occur within one year from purchased date, customers will be able to have it serviced by presenting the warranty certificate and the proof of purchase at Olympus Service Station or authorized Olympus distributor worldwide except for some regions.
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QUOTE(nutrinos @ Jul 15 2010, 05:26 PM)
Looks like an April Full/Fool joke  tongue.gif
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LOL, yeah, the date looks like April Fool...they should announce it on 2nd April.... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(daz55 @ Jul 15 2010, 05:19 PM)
Meaning buy in US will also have warranty here ?
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Meaning, buy anywhere...kekekeke... US included... buy in US, warranty in Malaysia... no problem...

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