My dad works as a GM in UMW Toyota.

He know a lot of stuff in the automotive industry.

He always said wanna buy Honda but never dapat Honda coz everytime new Camry come out, they replace him new Company car.

But few months back, when i wanna get the Civic, he dun allow.. he said it's either u drive ur current old Altis or get a BMW.

Well a lot things i sked reveal here (later dad kena pecat) but what i can say is..

Toyota & Honda cars were superior. They're very good. But that is last time. The toyota Altis i driving(not the current model) profit margin is lower compared to the current new Altis. The old altis they use high quality build and everything is good material, hence last time the selling price was RM121k. But the new altis cost is very low.. all the parts also wanna cut-cost. With the new CEO of Toyota having the founder bloodline, he is very arrogant and a lot top executives wanna sabotage him (hence the sticky pedal). The Vios was a good car, but the new version use too much cheap stuff liao.. they sourced the parts to cheaper supllier. even the UMW/AISB/ASSB produce good quality parts but sell to proton and perodua.

So to those current old altis/vios/camry owners, ur car is good dun simply sell... 2nd hand altis(yr 2003) can sell good price still.

Dun under estimate national car esp Perodua, coz the parts and manufacturing team is AISB/UMW wan.

itu saja i wanna share.. kthxbai

can i send my resume to yer? oh wait pecat oledi.

This post has been edited by soowky: Apr 23 2010, 01:34 PM

i already know bout this... ayam sure many know 2...

its Unit 731 i tell u

Agree. But still some of toyota car is good.

i dad work in Ferrari.. as president of Ferrari

he said all other car sucks

but only proton is better than ferrari. I cant say why nanti by dad kena sack. but newer proton is just better than italian cars

this is the truth and its on the internet

thanks for the info~ but i just bought the latest vios...
i think next week can get the car d....
my brother waiting for the 2.0 altis...

so means.. proton>toyota&honda

nice 1. but bmw 3 series and toyota top model price difference still alot leh

no lah.. cannot compare like that.. just that not all perodua cars is sucky lo.. and not necessary jap car is good-est liao.
proton i not sure la.. but UMW supplies a lot parts to proton as well. bare in mind these parts ARE the same parts used in ur toyota when u send to toyota service center.

umm.. diff around rm100k oni .. still ok la.. i not saying bmw > toyota (alto is fact) i just said my dad rather i not take honda & toyota.

so ur father is a manyzer, general manyzer somemore.

Drive the Prius man.

I got a 10 year old camry...still good...still good...

chezzball is a rich guy lady

Honda & Toyota = Japanese cars?

Dude, try a Mazda, it kicks either one of those car's butt any day.

Japanese AV > Malaysian .3gp

mazda and nissan i no komen. but dun b surprise if they aso cut cost.. lol

every car now also cut cost la.. only Mercedes and bmw rules now..

So Vios>Altis?

toyota is too bloated dy.. no choice

the dugong Vios paint quality is << than 1st gen Vios

suspension for Vios also laosai wan...

Toyota just a myth which ended a decade ago.. it will sink along with Japan

Ya, that's why i didn't bought the 'dugong' in the first place. Saw it first arrived in Thailand before it came to our shores and I managed to get facelifted 1st gen vios before it phased out, lol.

This post has been edited by igor_is300: Apr 23 2010, 02:26 PM

so you son of a

GM

yeah T & H >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kia forte

got la, later this year launch in malaysia
dual VVTI leh

now buy Volkswagen better liao

bugatti veyron cut cos or not?

do not over estimate jap AV Idol.

buy Germany cars guys. GERMANy CARS. hitler did good in creating good quality cars.

edited.

still,

it's better than tin milo...

My dad works as a GM in UMW Ferlali.

He know a lot of stuff in the automotive industry.

He always said wanna buy Ferlali but never dapat Ferlali coz everytime new Enzo come out, they replace him new Company car.

But few months back, when i wanna get the 599 GTO, he dun allow.. he said it's either u drive ur current old Lambo or get a Bugatti Veyron.

Well a lot things i sked reveal here (later dad kena pecat)

u r from rich family.

nice details there on toyota..
but i still didnt get the point why your dad not allowing you to buy a civic..
civic = honda?

he said honda aso ada problem wohhh...

i think 1 way to spot is.. if the older model initial selling price is higher than current model initial selling price.. meaning they cut a lot cost liao, tat's why manage to sell so cheap for current model.

Japanese Car sucks.

Continental Cars > Japanese Cars

Anytime.

manaada

facelifted Vios more expensive than older models

last time City 2003 generation, iDSI rm79k, then facelifted upped to rm84k, till now iVtec version also start from rm84k

Vios don't have significant price rise, but they introduced two ripped off "SKU", J and S/TRD spec

just use ur legs walk everywhere lol its the best to rely on
unless u said ur crippled

This post has been edited by franstormer: Apr 23 2010, 05:57 PM

oh macam tu ka.. wokkay.. =P meaning kenot seee from price liao.. den i dunno liao.. hahaha

I LOL'ed at ppl who spent rm90k on TRD Vios

there's plenty more options at that price

for Malaysians, Toyota seems the myth brand of cars

those who buy altis now is really LOLOL liao, since there are cars like civic, lancer, focus, mazda3, forte, sylphy etc etc...

conclusion is to get a old altis or a bmw.
other than tat is crappy car..

uhh.. nice story there

chezzball jom p racing

if u win the race kita buat anak, if i win also kita buat anak

ok...Mazda ....okey~!

that new person who take-over toyota is an idiot.
u know wat? actually proton is making a huge amount of profit frm malaysian or else how they can afford LOTUS?
such a sad thing. i always looked high upon toyota cars because of their high-end products

patut la cheezeball ni bawak e90 3 series.. bile nak update LCI .. cantek o

Can I believe that the top execs are putting the life of many people on the road by intentionally coming out with the sticky pedal issue just to get rid of one person?

That one I really LOL, pay same price for 1.8 engine

ITHINK THOSE ARE DONE BY ZIONIST

If ur father work at potong or peroda... more thing to reveal ...
this one sure de~~~

lol @ gamefreak.

all right now lets put away all your thoughts of buying imported cars and start buying Proton/Perodua. well its national cars we might help our own country growth someday..

i wonder when will Proton/Perodua invent hybrid cars
hehe would be interesting

This post has been edited by ajai_fza: Apr 23 2010, 07:44 PM

1) Help our own country or help certain individuals?

2) Proton Emas

this is true,

but typical malaysian wont accept that

ohh yes yes yess.. why u said so?
or is it goin to be politics now. sorry.
out of my topic.

now TS talks about stop buying toyota/honda.
i would say becoz her/his father got fired as GM.
would that be an independent thread to be started anyway?

no harm TS.

if wanna help our national car with truth hearts......

reduce the price .... (our national car is overprice~~"")

our car quality not match the price leh~~~ (ya potong and peroda already improve a lot liao.. but the price also increase..)

yeah. but still, Toyota has been in the industry for almost 76yrs. (since 1934)
and you expect Proton (established 1983, 27years) to meet the quality with the likes of toyota, honda, bmw, merc etc.
talk about price/costing/quality. we don't know anything about that.
but in terms of care safety, i would say Proton really really need to enhance their quality on that.

saga-rm20K
waja-rm35K
persona-rm30K

the actual cost of these 3 car

oh, so you kesian proton so buy proton la?

as long as it is driveable, Toyota? Honda? .... it's ok...



This post has been edited by yan99033: Apr 23 2010, 08:02 PM

Wow, i will surely buy Waja wirh rm 35k still, stop dreaming ia

no point arguing with you that is not a discussion to start with.

the quality of our car i think potong and peroda can improve by earning less a bit and put more the cost to improve the quality of our national car.

ur mommy call u to go slp ,kthxbye

Chill my friend...

check this


calculate the currency conversion to ringgit malaysia...

We discuss based on the fact, ok?

hehe...Malaysia BOLEH..

there's a video that ppl scratch proton car and found milo tin inside
the freaking body is make out of milo tin material
go youtube or google find that video

yeah. Malaysia BOLEH.
but im afraid its goin out of topic.

mitsubishi boleh~~~

would love to drive mitsubishi

I cant find it >.< Mind to tell me the video name?

the new honda city side doors use low quality plastics. Looks cheap. Feels cheap. Plus, the ever famous corrosion problem. And the rep from Honda say it's normal, what bull! LOL

no lah.. retirement coming soon liao..

coz i saw the city kena langgar by viva thread... i suddenly rememberd loh.. this thing..

oh ya.. just to share... my altis kena langgar by kenari b4 last time.. the whole kenari hancur in front til kena call tow truck coz kenot start liao (radiator or wat shit) i was 18 tat time so i dunno shyt. my car back bumper nothing at all, only some scratch.. i was damn proud of my car.... then dad tell me.. outside looks tough but inside actually dah berkecai.. then he go change the bumper liao (staff price manyak cheap)

its hard to find a kar that is 4-5stars in terms of quality nowadays.
i'm thinking of opportunity cost here. you might get well designed cars but low in quality. while the cars with 4stars and above may only look like a 'boring' car. assume that both has the same price range.

get a pickup truck like ford ranger or etc. its a good drive. however, you do need to have the skill to control it on road.

and tell you what, the old saga (the red color 1) is super hard. a friend of mine got that car from his dad or his uncle (i dont remember). the story was, the car tyres skid and it rolls down to hit a divider on the way downhill, taking a corner. the car, yes its a trashed now, but the body(excluding the roof) is still can be considered as taking minor crash. sikit kemek saja. kalau hantar kedai, minta foreman ketuk2, it would be ok.

aiyoh i already know when i saw 'new' vios is actually same car but different name in other country. one product sell everywhere as different thing.

only malaysians dum dum dum dum cannot see