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 Intel LGA1155 P67/Z68/Z77, Sandy/Ivy Bridge Architecture

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post Dec 15 2010, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Dec 14 2010, 10:26 PM)
Wow, Core i5 2500K is going to be sold like hot hot cake
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I am getting the 2500K, even with the hot whether like ours it should hit 4.3GHz on air no sweat. 4.3GHz on Sandy is really really fast. Good enough for the Console emulators like pcsx2. hehe tongue.gif

Right now the more interesting part is how would AMD respond on this Sandy bridge pressure. With the performance difference like this their 965 BE Selling @ RM200 cheaper are starting to look less attractive.

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post Dec 16 2010, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 16 2010, 12:06 PM)
Yes but wont be so soon anyway it's too early to say.
Somehow from the benches observed, 1366 is still a lot better than 1155. Something like 4.7ghz 1155 = 4.5ghz 1366.
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Well thats only if u count those 32nm 6 core gulftowns because i think they are the only reason 1366 to survive. laugh.gif It is hard to justify getting bloomfield over sandy K series.

btw, base on the conversion 2500K is below RM700. shocking.gif this one is really a steal!

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post Dec 18 2010, 12:00 PM

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meh Air cooled almost 5.2GHz. Thats really serious performer for a RM600-700 cpu. tongue.gif
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post Dec 30 2010, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Dec 29 2010, 04:32 PM)
All 1156 coolers will fit on 1155 mobos coz both hv the same size of retention holes n distance among the holes is identical
Google dude
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lol exactly, on top of that, Sandy board is already out in the market, just put a Sandy board + Nehelem board side by side and compare with any measurement tool will get the answer. tongue.gif


As for the 2500K vs 2600k, by dumping that 300 into a better cooler,you can squeeze extra Ghz from the 2500k perform as good as a 2600k. Hyper threading are less useful if the all 4 cores is fulload.

2600K is for those for want absolute high performance = multi-threading softwares, I personally think 4 sandy bridge cores(with OC to 4Ghz+) is more than sufficient for a few years in the future already.

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post Dec 31 2010, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Dec 31 2010, 04:15 AM)
16'c. notworthy.gif
maybe at mountain area with raining season like genting now. unsure.gif
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it is pretty hard even for genting to hit 16c. lets not mention u are indoor which is warmer tongue.gif
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post Jan 7 2011, 04:33 AM

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QUOTE(techmostwanted @ Jan 7 2011, 12:16 AM)
-AMD are forced to lower their profit margin, AGAIN, history repeating itself. But good for budget users, cheap quad core Phenom X4 available under RM250 very soon biggrin.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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Well they have too, but the reality is nothing/nonews about any recent price cut, I still see the same old price on AMD cpu ,there is no reason to buy AMD right now if anyone is looking for price/performance. Sandy bridge has make buying almost all AMD CPU pointless. They even threaten 1156/1366 socket too. Only the highest end gulftowns are still ahead of Sandy, but thats way more expensive.

QUOTE(fadhfuad @ Jan 7 2011, 12:24 AM)
Although I will not be upgrading to a Sandy for the time being, the i7 2600k is indeed a monster of a CPU. But have you guys read the reviews on the new Phenom X6? Even I am now considering of getting one of the 1090T.
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if check the benchmark in sites like tomshardware/anandtech 2600K is beating the faster amd cpu 1100T almost every single benchmark, no offence but I wouldnt want you to get cheated by AMD, the 1090T should not be selling @ those price anymore. Base on the performance/watt AMD need at least 30-50% price cut on almost all their CPU. On mobo side the different between the same spec amd and Intel mobo can go as low as 250 bucks or less. We are not even talking about overclock sandy bridge yet.

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post Jan 13 2011, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(jeopardise @ Jan 13 2011, 12:08 PM)
the more phase power, the more is the stability. Phase power reduces ripples, hence better overclocking.
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how about those in sabertooth? its only 8+2 phase vs the lower version p8p67 Pro.
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post Jan 13 2011, 08:27 PM

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you have a unlock CPU, it is pointless to buy a faster memory as you can OC by using multiplier. Sandy bridge have pretty limited memory OC as compared to nehelem.
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post Jan 16 2011, 12:24 AM

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Most likely to buy this weekend or next week. Still getting my final spec done.
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post Jan 18 2011, 12:10 AM

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I think it is better to get 1600 version if the price diff isnt much especially those who are getting the performance RAM. Intel might be moving to 1600 on Ivy bridge, who knows.
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post Jan 18 2011, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 18 2011, 01:11 AM)
Unfortunately that isn't the case here.
4GB of a Corsair Dominator C9 1600mhz is RM300.

You can get 8GB of RAM @ 1333mhz for RM250.

You do the calculation.
I'd honestly go for more RAM instead since the speed difference is pretty much negligible.

And by the time Ivy Bridge comes around, 1600mhz kits will be dirt cheap anyways with 8GB kits being the standard instead.
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if you reread my statement i said this apply only for those who are getting performance RAM. Right now performance RAM 1333 price is not much diff from 1600 ones.

Beside I think right now the RAM price are dropping due to slow demand & inventories pile up, I think in a matter of time it will shoot up again. Just like what DDR2 had.
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post Jan 21 2011, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 20 2011, 05:40 PM)
Check other shops in LYP? Viewnet, C-zone, etc.?
It's hard to say which shop has stock and which doesn't.
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I asked almost all of them Sunday, but all no stock on 2500k, I think 2600k will share the same fate.
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post Jan 27 2011, 04:38 PM

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Lol my New sabertooth got problem, cant boot with sata drives plugged. Only boot to bios when there are not drives plug.


Update : FIXED, Silly BIOS issue.

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post Jan 31 2011, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(mohdazuan @ Jan 31 2011, 12:09 PM)
40 degrees based on? core temperature or cpu temperature?

my core temp for EIST & C1E enabled, idle at 1.6GHz is around 38c using 212+. yesterday drop to 36c because of rainy day  biggrin.gif
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Rainly day yest night mine 2500K drop to 30c with Hyper 212+ with Arctic silver 3. tongue.gif
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post Feb 1 2011, 12:24 PM

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*could be victim here with Sabertooth p67 board. Sounds like I need to change to those Sata 6gbps port and the 2 Marvell Sata ports.

Most of us wont be running >4HDDs anyway. I dont even have optical ROM drives on my PC. External sata makes it unnecessary to run many HDDs in a PC.

However I am more happy if Intel would just allow us to get Z68 as replacement. Dump the p67 for good. Waiting till April = almost half way to Z68. Might as well allow us to change that to z68.

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post Feb 1 2011, 09:04 PM

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This is seriously getting me worried, as I plan to use this rig for 7yrs or 10yrs. vmad.gif Hopfully they can do direct 1 to 1 exchange for new mobo. Not regular RMA with refurbished parts/mobo. My AthlonXP lasted me 8yrs b4 its mobo fail.

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post Feb 1 2011, 09:44 PM

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I already know I can get away with SataIII ports

but Do u pay 800+ bucks mobo with just 2+2 sata(third party)? no right?

I am pretty sure with the optical ROMs + later SSD RAID + HDD RAID these alone occupied at least 5-6 sata ports.

Anyway I am still waiting them for news for 1 to 1 replacement. It is ridiculous to not get what you pay for.

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post Feb 1 2011, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 1 2011, 09:47 PM)
I know how you feel. You can stuff the optical drive to port 2-5 since many dont use it too often.
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or hope that I am not that Intel claimed 5-15% unlucky group(usually higher for the actual, I assuming 20-30%)


or they(Intel) can just canned this p67 chipset entirely and move forward to Z68, replacing existing p67 user with z68 ones. its far easier/cost lesser to have 1 less chipset than having both.

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post Feb 2 2011, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Feb 2 2011, 10:20 AM)
Actually it is not like doomsday, the other sataIII ports are working, and we have the options to use that. Further all the other parts of the CPU are working normally. So not a really big deal about this. We just wait for a response now from the OEM manufacturers to see what they will do with this defect?

I think anyone that has already bought sandy bridge do not have to worry much, it is just you will mentally feel that there is a defect there that will bother you, but actually you will not notice it much in the short time.

But anyone willing to purchase a new sandy bridge now should know the risk they are looking at and make the choice or wanting to buy it or not.
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Its not worrying if u are using <3 years. But when u think about 7years down the road these problem magnifies.

I tell u each of my previous PCs lasted at least 7yrs+ . I had two 10-11yrs old AthlonXP+Pentium 3 system just failed me 2yrs ago.
Even my 14yrs old Pentium mmx 166Mhz are still working perfectly now. It is my most recent Pentium D PC have shortest lifespan after it has failed me within 5yrs of usage that leads me to buy sandy bridge(xcept the pentium 1 MMx)

If you are just a casual gamer/ or normal user, you really find hard to upgrade ur PC because an average a P4 2.4-3Ghz is more than sufficient for daily use. Infact I dont think I will be touching games at all in the coming years, even now I am extremely picky only pick the best of the best for casual entertainment.

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post Feb 2 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(zzzz52 @ Feb 2 2011, 11:38 AM)
I'm not saying that we should be using this faulty board for a long period, it is just that for those that have already bought it, we are fine in the short duration while waiting for RMA or replacement that the OEM's are gonna make. Since there should be a solution for us, we do not need to worry so much in the meantime.
I also support full disclosure from the sellers to make sure that all potential buyers are aware and could make a informed decision.

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Thats the thing puzzled me now, Will they do a complete exchange 1 to 1 or just take ur board back fix the problem.

I am stilling waiting news from Asus.

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