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TSabubin
post Apr 19 2010, 02:48 PM, updated 15y ago

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I know this topic would better suit posted in /k/ thread but I do not want those /k/ people spoiling the thread.

Anyway, if you have watched the movie 2012, it does says by the mayans that the world is coming to an end in 2012.

What made me posted this thing here is because yesterday I heard from a relative that she actually believe 2012 is really coming. She got the information from some documentary about such apocalypse and she actually believe judgment day is coming. This is helped by she being a very religious person.

Then she saying things like she worried about getting a new car because scared that when 2012 strike, she might be jobless and no money to pay for the installment.

So, what do you guys think? Do you really believe in 2012 or end of the world is coming? Or some major catastrophe is nearing?

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post Apr 19 2010, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Apr 19 2010, 02:48 PM)
What made me posted this thing here is because yesterday I heard from a relative that she actually believe 2012 is really coming. She got the information from some documentary about such apocalypse and she actually believe judgment day is coming. This is helped by she being a very religious person.


ok laa.at least she got more time for the god

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Then she saying things like she worried about getting a new car because scared that when 2012 strike, she might be jobless and no money to pay for the installment.
lol...in the end of the day...we all die la..no need to pay the installment anymore laugh.gif
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post Apr 19 2010, 02:56 PM

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yes.. but not in 2012...
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post Apr 19 2010, 02:56 PM

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Another 1 year plus.....be happy dont worry.
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post Apr 19 2010, 02:57 PM

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HAHAHAH, wait, if u think d world come to end , why worry about paying d loan?
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post Apr 19 2010, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(spikyz @ Apr 19 2010, 02:57 PM)
HAHAHAH, wait, if u think d world come to end , why worry about paying d loan?
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yeah...end of the day = no more ppl..no more worlds..it's just a judgement day
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post Apr 19 2010, 03:00 PM

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i do believe on armageddon/judgement day/apocalype or wat ever u want to call it.......but i do not believe that the end of the world will fall on 2012...
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post Apr 19 2010, 03:11 PM

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errr...let's put it this way, sometimes having a simple mind is blessings in disguise...


Added on April 19, 2010, 3:16 pm
QUOTE(xdeer @ Apr 19 2010, 03:00 PM)
i do believe on armageddon/judgement day/apocalype or wat ever u want to call it.......but i do not believe that the end of the world will fall on 2012...
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anyway, if you do not believe it falling on 2012, then when? Not in your lifetime? Why?

Just like a lot people think about accidents but always think they are not the one to get it.

BTW, don't take the death of dinosours as an example. Because a massive asteroid falling from the sky and killing the dinosours is just a theory. In fact, if you watch the current discovery channel on dinosours extinction, they did say asteroid is unlikely the reason for the wipeout of dinosour species.

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post Apr 19 2010, 04:16 PM

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what is the reason to think that the world will end in 2012?
TSabubin
post Apr 19 2010, 04:22 PM

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http://www.2012warning.com/

http://www.endoftime2012.com/

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/08/su...l-sunday-night/

I don't really know and don't really care. I personally do not worry about intangible things.
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post Apr 19 2010, 04:35 PM


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doomsayers have been claiming about doomsday all the time since god knows when......

but hey....we are still here...
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post Apr 19 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Apr 19 2010, 02:48 PM)
I know this topic would better suit posted in /k/ thread but I do not want those /k/ people spoiling the thread.

Anyway, if you have watched the movie 2012, it does says by the mayans that the world is coming to an end in 2012.

What made me posted this thing here is because yesterday I heard from a relative that she actually believe 2012 is really coming. She got the information from some documentary about such apocalypse and she actually believe judgment day is coming. This is helped by she being a very religious person.

Then she saying things like she worried about getting a new car because scared that when 2012 strike, she might be jobless and no money to pay for the installment.

So, what do you guys think? Do you really believe in 2012 or end of the world is coming? Or some major catastrophe is nearing?
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Funny, when 2012 really end of world, she should be thinking of how to survive, here she go thinking how she is going to pay instalments....ROFLMAO
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post Apr 19 2010, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(loki @ Apr 19 2010, 04:48 PM)
Funny, when 2012 really end of world, she should be thinking of how to survive, here she go thinking how she is going to pay instalments....ROFLMAO
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second that.
If next month was the last month of the earth, then i would go to try all those expensive stuff, borrow ah long / loan to the max, buy and experience all the luxury stuff that i had ever tried before i die.
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i dunno..she have a twisted mind and is a firm believer (in religion). I do not know what these kind of people thinks.

Anyway, do you believe in 2012 with all the "evidence" shown?
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post Apr 19 2010, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Apr 19 2010, 04:11 PM)

BTW, don't take the death of dinosours as an example. Because a massive asteroid falling from the sky and killing the dinosours is just a theory. In fact, if you watch the current discovery channel on dinosours extinction, they did say asteroid is unlikely the reason for the wipeout of dinosour species.
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Both are the same thing ... THEORIES.

There are group A that theorizes dino extinction caused by meteorites, and there are group B that theorizes its unlikely to happen. Which one to believes usually depends on the which one you happen to get your mind tuned to the most recently.






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My landlord believes in the end of the world according to the christian religion since when she saw the sky turn abit red. She got shocked and thought that it was judgement day.
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QUOTE(abubin @ Apr 19 2010, 06:37 PM)
i dunno..she have a twisted mind and is a firm believer (in religion). I do not know what these kind of people thinks.

Anyway, do you believe in 2012 with all the "evidence" shown?
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Religious person actually worries about material ownership (car) in times of impending doom? I thought the most religious people ppl actually LOVES doomsday and will always hang this topic on their lips (remind others often its coming its coming please repent please repent!). Maybe they wanted to be quickly Judged rather to live a moment longer on this sinful and corrupted world.


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post Apr 19 2010, 05:54 PM

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Four major earth quake within these four month. I think those incident are signs that the Earth is about to end.
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QUOTE(night @ Apr 19 2010, 05:54 PM)
Four major earth quake within these four month. I think those incident are signs that the Earth is about to end.
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right.....so is the spanish flu, WW1,2 , all the pandemics...terrorist attacks, tsunamis, hurricanes, volcano eruptions, ...
but hey, we are still here.....
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End of the world at 2012 is just a bunch of bullshit said by not credible sources or typical doomsayers.

Besides,this kind of topic should be in Kopitiam,not here.

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Remember the Y2K scare? It came and went without much of a whimper because of adequate planning and analysis of the situation. Impressive movie special effects aside, Dec. 21, 2012, won't be the end of the world as we know. It will, however, be another winter solstice.

Much like Y2K, 2012 has been analyzed and the science of the end of the Earth thoroughly studied. Contrary to some of the common beliefs out there, the science behind the end of the world quickly unravels when pinned down to the 2012 timeline. Below, NASA Scientists answer several questions that we're frequently asked regarding 2012.

Question (Q): Are there any threats to the Earth in 2012? Many Internet websites say the world will end in December 2012.
Answer (A): Nothing bad will happen to the Earth in 2012. Our planet has been getting along just fine for more than 4 billion years, and credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012.

Q: What is the origin of the prediction that the world will end in 2012?
A: The story started with claims that Nibiru, a supposed planet discovered by the Sumerians, is headed toward Earth. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012. Then these two fables were linked to the end of one of the cycles in the ancient Mayan calendar at the winter solstice in 2012 -- hence the predicted doomsday date of December 21, 2012.

Q: Does the Mayan calendar end in December 2012?
A: Just as the calendar you have on your kitchen wall does not cease to exist after December 31, the Mayan calendar does not cease to exist on December 21, 2012. This date is the end of the Mayan long-count period but then -- just as your calendar begins again on January 1 -- another long-count period begins for the Mayan calendar.

Q: Could a phenomena occur where planets align in a way that impacts Earth?
A: There are no planetary alignments in the next few decades, Earth will not cross the galactic plane in 2012, and even if these alignments were to occur, their effects on the Earth would be negligible. Each December the Earth and sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence.

"There apparently is a great deal of interest in celestial bodies, and their locations and trajectories at the end of the calendar year 2012. Now, I for one love a good book or movie as much as the next guy. But the stuff flying around through cyberspace, TV and the movies is not based on science. There is even a fake NASA news release out there..."
- Don Yeomans, NASA senior research scientist Q: Is there a planet or brown dwarf called Nibiru or Planet X or Eris that is approaching the Earth and threatening our planet with widespread destruction?
A: Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an Internet hoax. There is no factual basis for these claims. If Nibiru or Planet X were real and headed for an encounter with the Earth in 2012, astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye. Obviously, it does not exist. Eris is real, but it is a dwarf planet similar to Pluto that will remain in the outer solar system; the closest it can come to Earth is about 4 billion miles.

Q: What is the polar shift theory? Is it true that the earth’s crust does a 180-degree rotation around the core in a matter of days if not hours?
A: A reversal in the rotation of Earth is impossible. There are slow movements of the continents (for example Antarctica was near the equator hundreds of millions of years ago), but that is irrelevant to claims of reversal of the rotational poles. However, many of the disaster websites pull a bait-and-shift to fool people. They claim a relationship between the rotation and the magnetic polarity of Earth, which does change irregularly, with a magnetic reversal taking place every 400,000 years on average. As far as we know, such a magnetic reversal doesn’t cause any harm to life on Earth. A magnetic reversal is very unlikely to happen in the next few millennia, anyway.

The Blue Marble: Next GenerationEarth, as seen in the Blue Marble: Next Generation collection of images, showing the color of the planet's surface in high resolution. This image shows South America from September 2004. Q: Is the Earth in danger of being hit by a meteor in 2012?
A: The Earth has always been subject to impacts by comets and asteroids, although big hits are very rare. The last big impact was 65 million years ago, and that led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. Today NASA astronomers are carrying out a survey called the Spaceguard Survey to find any large near-Earth asteroids long before they hit. We have already determined that there are no threatening asteroids as large as the one that killed the dinosaurs. All this work is done openly with the discoveries posted every day on the NASA NEO Program Office website, so you can see for yourself that nothing is predicted to hit in 2012.

Q: How do NASA scientists feel about claims of pending doomsday?
A: For any claims of disaster or dramatic changes in 2012, where is the science? Where is the evidence? There is none, and for all the fictional assertions, whether they are made in books, movies, documentaries or over the Internet, we cannot change that simple fact. There is no credible evidence for any of the assertions made in support of unusual events taking place in December 2012.

Q: Is there a danger from giant solar storms predicted for 2012?
A: Solar activity has a regular cycle, with peaks approximately every 11 years. Near these activity peaks, solar flares can cause some interruption of satellite communications, although engineers are learning how to build electronics that are protected against most solar storms. But there is no special risk associated with 2012. The next solar maximum will occur in the 2012-2014 time frame and is predicted to be an average solar cycle, no different than previous cycles throughout history.
Source from NASA

Not any typical doomsayer website.

QUOTE(night @ Apr 19 2010, 05:54 PM)
Four major earth quake within these four month. I think those incident are signs that the Earth is about to end.
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Actually, earth quakes are happening all the time,on anywhere in the earth, due to the fact that the tectonic places are always moving. Destructive earthquakes happens due to collision or breaking of those plates.

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