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post Dec 29 2010, 06:50 PM

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2008 (801) - Dayi 0622 - 400g - 9

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Initially I wanted to buy 0622 (601) - 660g, but the price is too expensive now. List price for it here is about RM200 per beeng. And this 801 - 400g per toong is about RM171.

1 piece vs 1 toong price. Is the taste big different? So happen the shop I went have both of them and brewed it. Taste wise is somehow quite similar.

I was told that 0622 (601) - 660g when it is new, the price is RM70+, and only 4 years.. the price went up to RM200. Our FD rate in the country is about 4%pa... this is crazy profit for tea.

Conclusion, I decided to buy the 801 instead...
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post Dec 29 2010, 06:55 PM

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As expected... This year they have Tiger Zodiac pu... and next year they have Rabbit Zodiac pu

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Hope it will reach here... this is going to be another buy for the sake of buying pu for collection...

I think it is worth collecting. If every year Dayi release a Zodiac, in 12 years time it will be a complete set... then time to let go some in Ebay for a complete set power price... 12 years worth of history eh smile.gif
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post Dec 30 2010, 04:29 PM

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2010 (001) - Dayi Jia Ji Tuo 100g - 12 x 5 + 1 free = 61 Tuo

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Value over Money... This is quite good.
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post Jan 2 2011, 07:26 PM

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Liu An Qi He Chun (2006) - 100g tin - Imported by Tacha x 9

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I have no experience with Liu An at all and today was my first experience with it.

In year 2006, the tea shop has made a special order of this. Whole batch is 2 ton of spring high grade Liu An. Upon arrival, a lot of people has bought it and currently they only left a bit. They no longer sell in big basket which consist of 60 small basket @ 500g. No longer selling in the small basket either.

The shop was saying that many people are coming back to buy this. I was just listening (thinking it may be sales pitch), but it really seems true. When I was there, 2 separate customer came in looking to buy more. 2 of them have bought few big basket before and already running low of stock.

I wanted to buy a small basket, but they said they only sell in 100g tin now cause limited quantity left. They said they have been trying to get the same quality for the past few years, but couldn't get the same grade... therefor it became a controlled item in their shop already.

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post Jan 2 2011, 09:13 PM

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Liu Ann is quite a strange tea for me initially when I first tried and I have a dislike for it. However, I realised that there are many varieties of it in the market and I managed to taste some great one. I managed to taste the 40s ShunYiSun batch and it is really great but the price is RM1xxxxx per basket. So now wait for good fellow to brew them and hope they will invite me smile.gif
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 2 2011, 09:13 PM)
Liu Ann is quite a strange tea for me initially when I first tried and I have a dislike for it. However, I realised that there are many varieties of it in the market and I managed to taste some great one. I managed to taste the 40s ShunYiSun batch and it is really great but the price is RM1xxxxx per basket. So now wait for good fellow to brew them and hope they will invite me smile.gif
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Fuyoh the price... rclxub.gif
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post Jan 2 2011, 10:59 PM

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I have not drank any Liu An before and today was the first. Initially I was thinking it may taste like Liu Bao, but it is not at all.

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5g:120ml

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1st Brew - 15 sec

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8th Brew - 1 min

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According to the tea seller, this is spring harvest of high grade quality. Leaves are small.

This Liu An has gone through charcoal roasted process. My body felt warm and I sweat when drinking this.

I couldn't compare this with others cause I have not tried other Liu An before, but this coming from 2006 is quite easy to drink. No bitterness. Sweet aftertaste. Quite good aroma. I heard people only drink aged Liu An, but the tea seller said only high grade Liu An is easy to drink now. How true, I don't know.

Frankly I felt this is like Da Hong Pao. I'm quite bad in Oolong always get confused by it sad.gif I bought because of the crowd buying it... will keep these for aging and sample in between.
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post Jan 2 2011, 11:37 PM

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Nowadays the Liu Ann is not the authentic process of the old. I think the method is lost. I did enquired from a learned tea scholar and he mentioned that in the old days the bamboo leaves around the basket are more expensive than the tea itself. I think the trees are now protected. The famous SYS company that produced it also closed its business in the 40s and nowadays most new tea company uses the same logo when producing it since it is not copyrighted.

In the old days, this tea is favour by the opium smoker and they drink this tea to clear their throat after smoking. The original way to brew is to add some bamboo leaves to the tea leaves itself.
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Bamboo more expensive than tea? Wow...

Speaking of this reminds me of someone told me someone has bought the paper wrapping for the Hon Yin Puerh for RM3000. Reason, the person's Hong Yin wrapping is quite damaged, so he bought other people's wrapping... to increase his Hon Yin's value.

Dunia ini macam macam ada...


Added on January 3, 2011, 12:09 amI have decided to fast on tea for the next 5 days... had non stop tea since May 10, I think my stomach needs a rest...

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I sometimes also buy old tea just for its packaging if it is within my budget. Not planning to open it for drinking but rather for display since it is now becomes 'antique'.
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 3 2011, 09:34 AM)
I sometimes also buy old tea just for its packaging if it is within my budget. Not planning to open it for drinking but rather for display since it is now becomes 'antique'.
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What is the oldest branded tea that you have?
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 3 2011, 10:43 AM)
What is the oldest branded tea that you have?
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I got no idea of the age but at least in the 70s. I got a tiekuanyin still unopened and in its original clear plastic carrying box. I believe this type of packing is for gift giving. There are also few boxes of LiuBao around.
Oldest tea I got is more than 100 years. Only a small amount. Turns almost like dust. A gift from my dad tea friend in China. I have not tried them yet. The aroma is as good as tasting it tongue.gif
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Guys, i just started drinking tea.

I bought some raw pur eh (isit called raw?), but hor, why sometimes when brew it will have some hm...like powder taste de? like not nice at all?

i normally brew it for around 15 sec for the 1st 2 to 3 brew
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 3 2011, 11:56 AM)
I got no idea of the age but at least in the 70s. I got a tiekuanyin still unopened and in its original clear plastic carrying box. I believe this type of packing is for gift giving. There are also few boxes of LiuBao around.
Oldest tea I got is more than 100 years. Only a small amount. Turns almost like dust. A gift from my dad tea friend in China. I have not tried them yet. The aroma is as good as tasting it tongue.gif
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100 years old tea can still drink? Hehe.. must be dust soon if you dont vacuum seal it...
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Jan 3 2011, 01:02 PM)
Guys, i just started drinking tea.

I bought some raw pur eh (isit called raw?), but hor, why sometimes when brew it will have some hm...like powder taste de? like not nice at all?

i normally brew it for around 15 sec for the 1st 2 to 3 brew
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For puerh a good start, you can read here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pu-erh_tea

Puerh (Raw or Ripe) is an acquired taste to some people. Acquired means you have to get use to the taste after some time. The issue about puerh is there are fakes out there, so you have to be careful if it taste out of the usual.

What puerh did you buy? Any photos?
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 3 2011, 01:58 PM)
For puerh a good start, you can read here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pu-erh_tea

Puerh (Raw or Ripe) is an acquired taste to some people. Acquired means you have to get use to the taste after some time. The issue about puerh is there are fakes out there, so you have to be careful if it taste out of the usual.

What puerh did you buy? Any photos?
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How can newbie know if the tea they are buying fake or not? Or worse they add foreign material like dye or heavy metal or fillers?
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 3 2011, 01:55 PM)
100 years old tea can still drink? Hehe.. must be dust soon if you dont vacuum seal it...
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Vacuum sealed? No way. It is in a canister. I can open it anytime and smell the aroma. rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 3 2011, 02:07 PM)
How can newbie know if the tea they are buying fake or not? Or worse they add foreign material like dye or heavy metal or fillers?
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There are few definition of fake tea here. One is that the producer used other tea leaves instead from the supposed tea plantation area. For example, using tiekuanyin tea leaves and sell as Puer tea. Second is imitation of brand. Products from small inferior company uses famous tea trademark brand and sells them at premium price.

Check for dye is easy. After brewing, use a white tissue and dip a bit on tea. The colour should be very light on natural tea.

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post Jan 3 2011, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 3 2011, 02:07 PM)
How can newbie know if the tea they are buying fake or not? Or worse they add foreign material like dye or heavy metal or fillers?
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Buying tea is very important you find a trusted seller. But that doesn't mean that the seller can buy the wrong tea to sell either. Some tea sellers knows very little about their tea, some knows a lot. So picking the right source to buy your tea is very important.

If you drink tea that makes your stomach upset, or itchiness in your throat or feeling of needle pricking your tongue... then something may not be right.. and you should stop.

So it all comes to learning and experiencing it which is something you will have to go through progressively. Initially I thought Tea was easy, but there is so many to learn about it. So many kinds of tea and teawares to play with. Its a never end hobby. Still learning... A lot of money can be spent on this hobby.

My personal opinion, For puerh, to start off you can try branded Menghai/Dayi of newer version, then move downwards for older versions. Try standard recipe first, then move out. After you gain more experience, you can branch out to other brands and non branded puerh. There are a few quite known/reliable Menghai/Dayi seller in Kepong where experienced people buy in bulk. So following experience people 'should' be less mistake.

There is also a trend going on that people is moving towards buying single estate very old wild arbor trees to make puerh. Those are usually of more premium price even for new tea. Frankly, I liked them more than the Menghai/Dayi. More tasty, but an ouch to the pocket. The price can range from RM80 to RM600 per beeng for a current year tea.
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 3 2011, 02:09 PM)
Vacuum sealed? No way. It is in a canister. I can open it anytime and smell the aroma.  rclxms.gif


Added on January 3, 2011, 2:21 pm

There are few definition of fake tea here. One is that the producer used other tea leaves instead from the supposed tea plantation area. For example, using tiekuanyin tea leaves and sell as Puer tea. Second is imitation of brand. Products from small inferior company uses famous tea trademark brand and sells them at premium price.

Check for dye is easy. After brewing, use a white tissue and dip a bit on tea. The colour should be very light on natural tea.
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If I have a 100 year old pu, I would most probably seal it up with a transparent wrapper and frame it at the wall... haha... I was at a teashop, they have 1 100 year old pu and it cost RM100,000. Madness.

There is 3rd example definition of fake tea, they fake the year of the tea by purposely let it age faster using wet storage.
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 3 2011, 02:51 PM)
If I have a 100 year old pu, I would most probably seal it up with a transparent wrapper and frame it at the wall... haha... I was at a teashop, they have 1 100 year old pu and it cost RM100,000. Madness.

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Basically the tea owner wants to shiok sendiri by putting a price to it. One thing for sure, that 100 year old puer tea definitely not store in Malaysia for that long. The other tea owner I know of will never display the old tea. If you knew them well, then they will only tell you what 'treasures' they got in their warehouse.

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