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 A RM20k Entry Level Sportbike, Kawi/Suzie/Yammie/Honda?

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TSyamato
post Apr 11 2010, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(enjoice @ Apr 11 2010, 05:04 AM)
if u like that kind of sound on the 250 try get er6n sounds more powerful and faster than 250r.

honestly if i have no choice i wud rather choose er6n or klx150, dtracker 250 over ninjz 250r, they sounds better than 250 ninja. but i wud preffer inline 4 cylinder sound like cbrf4i
or you can opt for kawasaki dtracker 250 (supermoto), with extra cash if u want to, try mod it with accessories and tune the bike better.

supermoto front fender, rear fender and seats. high handle bar. etc etc

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hmm... i think many of you are actually recommending bikes that u favoured laugh.gif j/k
i wouldnt buy a bike based on the 'sound'. and words like 'powerful' or 'faster' dont work on me, im not a young chap that fancies flashy bike. i need a practical bike (not kapchai) as a daily commuter.
L4 for 20k? brand new? be my guest yawn.gif

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post Apr 11 2010, 10:23 PM

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lol off course ppl recommend bike that they favour, then if majority rules either u opt for it with pros and cons.

Dtracker is pretty nice and versatile for daily commute, check review here

http://blogs.nst.com.my/man-on-wheels/kawa...cker-250-review

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It used to be the motorcycling crowd could be divided cleanly between superbikers and off-roaders.
The superbikers hang around at Hard Rock Cafe and go riding to Genting on the weekends.
The off-roaders on the other hand spend most of their time jumping in the jungle and are rarely seen.
But now, a strange hybdrid of the two is forming on the fringes of the local biking scene.
Supermotos, or also known as supermotards are fast gaining popularity.
For those who don't know much about bikes, a supermotard is basically a scrambler with superbike tyres.

You would think that a tall scrambler would be horrible to ride around twisty roads.
But as I rode the Kawasaki D-Tracker around some sharp bends in the neighbourhood - this myth was quickly proven to be untrue.
The D-Tracker is basically a Kawasaki KLX-250 'scrambler' with 17-inch street rims.

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post Apr 11 2010, 10:37 PM

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well just finished reading the blog, interest yet convincing.
i was bias against motard but it does proved me wrong.

but the tank is small 7.5L for just 100km meaning it could run out of gas in just an hour ride on highway doing 100km/h! thats not gonna help on my weekend 'makan angin' trip :/
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post Apr 12 2010, 10:02 AM

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you can have aftermarket parts/ extra capacity for gas tank. hey even malaysia have everything.. but too expensive for some stuff ... rclxub.gif
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post Apr 12 2010, 11:16 AM

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go with the Er6n (yes I know its over your budget, but in the long run, you'll be happy you took the 650.

extremely reasonably priced for a big motorbike in Malaysia compared to its "luxury" brethren.

I dont think you plan to ride 250+ kmph right?
This bike will cruise at 150 perfectly for hours. 17L full tank might take you around 300 km (but this one gotta confirm with the owners first)

The er6f to me is just not worth the extra 7k for the fairing.
If I wanted speed so badly I'll just save more for a CBR 600.


Going for the 250 R is fine if you feel you're a beginner and absolutely in no hurry when you makan angin. And doesnt lose out on looks either.
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post Apr 12 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(junbecks @ Apr 12 2010, 11:16 AM)
go with the Er6n (yes I know its over your budget, but in the long run, you'll be happy you took the 650.

extremely reasonably priced for a big motorbike in Malaysia compared to its "luxury" brethren.

I dont think you plan to ride 250+ kmph right?
This bike will cruise at 150 perfectly for hours. 17L full tank might take you around 300 km (but this one gotta confirm with the owners first)

The er6f to me is just not worth the extra 7k for the fairing.
If I wanted speed so badly I'll just save more for a CBR 600.
Going for the 250 R is fine if you feel you're a beginner and absolutely in no hurry when you makan angin. And doesnt lose out on looks either.
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well said.

as for me, i'll still take the KSR. u can go very far without filling up. but if u plan to makan angin then, this is where u lose out. u still can do it, but on highway, this bike seems to small. just nice for city tho.
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not sure which shop allows you to take it out for a test ride but my personal preference is always a bike without fairings... looks nicer (to me) and less hassle (and cheaper) when it comes to servicing it.
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post Apr 14 2010, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(junbecks @ Apr 12 2010, 11:16 AM)
go with the Er6n (yes I know its over your budget, but in the long run, you'll be happy you took the 650.

extremely reasonably priced for a big motorbike in Malaysia compared to its "luxury" brethren.

I dont think you plan to ride 250+ kmph right?
This bike will cruise at 150 perfectly for hours. 17L full tank might take you around 300 km (but this one gotta confirm with the owners first)

The er6f to me is just not worth the extra 7k for the fairing.
If I wanted speed so badly I'll just save more for a CBR 600.
Going for the 250 R is fine if you feel you're a beginner and absolutely in no hurry when you makan angin. And doesnt lose out on looks either.
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+1 to a very thorough reply.

after reading your comment, i have finally go down to a showroom and check out the er6n. like any other bike shops, no test ride is allowed, so i mounted my butt on the stall bike while chatting with the salespersonal.

few things i have noticed while i sat on it:
1) er6n doesnt give the feel of a 650 biggie should. its slightly lower, shorter and thinner than others in the same class.
2) the foot pegs are annoying for a 6 footer. they are designed like those on sportbikes. my hip & knee are uncomfortable after resting on the pegs for 5mins. maybe its not the pegs, i suspect the culprit is the lowered seat that kawa designed to suit lady bikers.

this pic is very much self explained, just look at his leg, i believe hes about 5'8"
the riding position is ok on a sportbike or a racebike, but not er6n, its a naked streetbike which should have great ergonomics sweat.gif
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post Apr 14 2010, 07:50 PM

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Which showroom did u went to? Didn't try Ninja 250r while u were there?
the ninja riding position not too radical so it's quite comfortable..sat on it before..if u are around pj area we can have TT and i can let u test my bike biggrin.gif
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post Apr 14 2010, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Apr 14 2010, 07:50 PM)
Which showroom did u went to? Didn't try Ninja 250r while u were there?
the ninja riding position not too radical so it's quite comfortable..sat on it before..if u are around pj area we can have  TT and i can let u test my bike  biggrin.gif
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well it isnt really a showroom, its more like an ordinary bike shop selling 2 wheelers with repair services.
it is in rawang, near the toyota showroom.

im now less interest in the er6n, the price tag is something i can compromise, but not the ride comfort. ohmy.gif
will narrow down the bike hunting to 250R. theres not much option atm.

and thx again for offering me to test your bike, i seldom travel to PJ but if i do, will pm you some time earlier (hope it doesnt trouble you too much) thumbup.gif notworthy.gif thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

btw, the shop has white er6f for sale, brand new for 36k. i always tot it is >40k.
whats the OTR price actually?


Added on April 14, 2010, 9:30 pmno 250R avail.
there are 3 kawas, the er6n er6f and a....cruiser....shadow? i didnt really look at it, lol

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post Apr 14 2010, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(yamato @ Apr 14 2010, 09:11 PM)
well it isnt really a showroom, its more like an ordinary bike shop selling 2 wheelers with repair services. 
it is in rawang, near the toyota showroom.

im now less interest in the er6n,  the price tag is something i can compromise, but not the ride comfort.  ohmy.gif
will narrow down the bike hunting to 250R. theres not much option atm.

and thx again for offering me to test your bike, i seldom travel to PJ but if i do, will pm you some time earlier (hope it doesnt trouble you too much)  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif

btw, the shop has white er6f for sale, brand new for 36k. i always tot it is >40k.
whats the OTR price actually?
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if u are in rawang maybe u can go to gombak and give WELLY a visit..they have most model of superbikes, new and used. No problem, just trying to help, and give poison a bit tongue.gif give me a buzz if u in PJ

ER-6f price OTR is around rm35.5k-rm36k..those model that priced at rm40k++ is a CBU model, this one is CKD model..er-6f looks cool with the fairing thumbup.gif
Ninja 250r is around rm21k OTR..the design really have the superbike feels but it's quite small..

Here is a comparison of Ninja 250r and Blade 250r
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Blade
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post Apr 14 2010, 10:09 PM

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(quoted from the kawa 250R review)
A 5'10'' rider still looks ok riding it, although anyone over 6 feet may want to consider something a bit bigger or risk looking clownish.



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post Apr 15 2010, 12:39 AM

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Then u have to go with Blade tongue.gif

That's if u are over 6 feet, and u ngam2 6 feet right? hmm.gif
Don't worry lah, those Americans riding Ninja still looks ok..i bet they are over 6 feet..u should check out the bike first and sit on it. smile.gif
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post Apr 15 2010, 12:56 AM

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yup, definitely gotta drop by welly someday.

i hope 6 footer isnt too bad on a ninja. i saw lotsa 6' on cubs & scooter but still look ok. (some are 5'10" but 120kg) haha.

the pegs about the same height as er6n? hmmm
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post Apr 15 2010, 01:35 AM

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But becareful when u wanna go to Welly, maybe u will end up buying zx6r tongue.gif tongue.gif
I think u'll be fine with Ninja..the bike received good response all over the world. IF my memory served me right , the foot pegs on Ninja is non-adjustable. My bike footpegs is adjustable one icon_idea.gif I think height won't be a problem but rider body size may affect a bit on the appearance of the bike. I think la.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(yamato @ Apr 10 2010, 01:35 AM)
now, budget is below 20k, but i wouldnt mind to top it to 30k if i find something which perfectly suits me.

i perfer smtg like:
- brand new sportsbike or naked/streetbike. (not a chopper/cruiser/tourer fan here.)
- 250 to 650cc
- 4 stroke
- as an alternative daily commute (car is still my main), 30mins city ride to work.
- occasional weekend "getaway" ride
- strictly non European machine.

ER-6 series are gud. fairing@no fairing, depends on you.
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post Apr 15 2010, 06:25 PM

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TS, ER6n/f is your only choice.

I owned er6f (sold recently), 250R and YZF-R6 coming.

ER6F is all round winner. Foot peg, Seat height is adjustable dude!

Happy hunting.
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post Apr 15 2010, 10:11 PM

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huh? pegs & seat on er6f are adjustable????
can some1 confirm this pls, im really keen to know.
thx
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post Apr 16 2010, 12:48 PM

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Yes, er6f seat is adjustable. Here's my 6f with pannier. Love the fc and performance though it can't match superbike. OTR 36k but after May, it will shoot up to 37k according to Kawa.

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Are you riding a moped now? those big cc bike (i mean 650cc) will make you spend a lot more on fuel, insurance and road tax, not to mention normal service yet. Insurance + road tax alone is RM1600+ IIRC.

If you get 250R you might join those who wanna sell their ninja for a bigger cc bike after few months.

My 2 cents is, go to Mudah page and then pick up some 250R/ER6N seller contact to test their bike, since its a used bike i think they will let you test it. After that you make your decision, dont rush.

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