hi, I'm new in bodybuilding. i used to drink protein but i think it's too expensive. can i just eat egg whites? like some 8 ,9 eggs one day? is that enough? plus i'll eat chicken meat during lunch and dinner. not really big amount but it's like 1 or 2 dishes of the 3 dishes i eat together with rice is chicken. sometimes during weekend i'll take more chicken. is that sufficient?

I doubt, but let's wait for answers from the pros (:

Definitely not enough.

haha... most important question i guess is...
how heavy are u? =.=
if u are very heavy, then its definitely not enough!
if u r around 50kg, it may be ok.
8-9eggs, protein would be roughly 30g.
ur lunch and dinner, if u can get 70-80g then it will be just nice for ur 50kg.
but if u weigh much heavier, then haha... sorry to say, its not enough at all

im around 57 to 58 kg. that the estimate around half a year ago. if my workout session works then it should be around 60kg ?8 to 9 eggs is only 30g ? damn ... my lunch and dinner is one or two dishes or meat like what i said. how much protein is that actually? i don't know how to calculate

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_food.php
make some effort to read stickies or google it. emphasize on using the right keywords and you'll get to search the info you want in just seconds.

we dont know how much u eat.
ur portion could be small or big, it varies.
so estimate around 20-30g for lunch and dinner.
total maybe 80-90g per day. close to 100g only

so around how many grams is sufficient? i wanna get the size asap. around how many months if i work out 4 days and rest for 2 days and repeat it continuously?

If you're 60kg. 60 x 2.2 = 132 right? Then 132g per day of protein

besides eggs? if eggs is 3g then i gotta take 40 eggs one days.. i'm broke d then .. lol .. besides that, i'm working nowadays, working time i only can take one or two eggs...any ideas how to solve this things? cause after i come back, go gym and make a few half boil eggs it's almost time to sleep .. i don't think i can make so much eggs ..
btw, one piece of chicken , like a drumstick or wing is roughly how many gram protein? can someone post a list of the food like chicken, eggs, beans protein contents here ? thanks !

thats why they call it protein supplement..
coz it does help out gettin those extra numbers..

to get everything from food is possible but takes abit more work and effort ..

have fun mate..

well, if u dont have money to even eat eggs, then bro... sorry, no one can really help u.
eggs are the cheapest source of protein.
if u want to get supplements like whey, its up to ur budget and ur need.
if u all also cant get, then slowly gain ur size la.
eat wat u can, and just let nature do its course.
no one can give u any help on this.
wat u need to repair ur muscles after workouts are proteins.
one piece of chicken? gosh... we do not eat chicken wing or drumsticks here for goodness sake.
u need protein, and get it from breastmeat pls... drumstick and wings? big no no... coz, they are lesser compared to breast meat.
breast meat probably 20-30g depending on size as well.

purchase whey protein la.. easy

Depends on ur lifestyle, i dont really think money on food is the major issue. even if u consume 20 - 30g of protein tats like 100g of chicken so.... 1 week u only need like RM100 for all ur protein source and 1 month it is like RM400 -RM500 only, it is fairly cheap thou.

i don't get u. 20-30 g of protein tats like 100g of chicken? means 100g of chicken meat has only 20-30 g of protein?

checked out this site
http://www.menshealth.co.uk/chatroom/topic/325854
it says roughly 20-40. it depends...

roughly, go google the nutritional fact on skinless chicken breast

another thing, did u guys feel pain at the muscle part u train after work out? how bout one or two days after workout?

gosh... =.=
of coz u feel pain. yes, sometimes it takes a few days to recover. =.=

Wee...started taking AnimalPak. Took it after breakfast as I read that it will slow down absorption and that the infamous neon green piss will not be so obvious. Definitely hard to swallow those big pills, total 11 pills to swallow, some big some small. Drank a lot of water to I do not want to see neon green piss or dark yellow piss. So far so good, just clear but very light green/yellow piss. Anyone out there tried AnimalPak also?

How does it affect your workouts bro?

Too early to tell. Definitely not as explosive an impact to my workouts as taking NO2. Let's see as time goes by.

eggs consider cheap coz 1 crate(20++eggs) only cost around 8-9rm ..

not 30? mine is ard rm9+ 30pieces. finish in 1 and a half day XD

so do i now .. i bought 60 eggs on weekends.. tuesday almost gone d all.. by the way .. eggs itself enough d as the supplement ?

Update me k. I'm just really curious about the supplement cos it claims to make people train like an animal. I'm eager to experiment with NO2 though.

i have taken it for about a week now and if you are not caffeine tolerant, u might not b able to take it.
it does give the extra uhm, but if my training involves alot of head movement, for example abs, then i won't take it coz it feels like the blood vessel in the brain is pumping real damn hard and if my head moves alot, definitely i feel dizzy and nauseous afterwards.

This post has been edited by janson_kaniaz: Apr 13 2010, 08:37 PM

Define "extra uhm".

The first time I took NO2, I broke a few PRs. I will only take it on weight lifting days, though, and stop for a while after I finish my first and current tub to avoid my body getting used to it.

Tried white flood, felt like overdosing coffee lol, heart beat faster and more focus.

Thanks guys. So lemme ask the 2 of you. NO2, White Flood or Animal Pack? I'm deciding on one of these.

Animal Pak is more of a multivitamin supplement, it's a completely different animal altogether. Never tried White Flood before.

White flood and superpump 250 get a pretty good feedback from bb.com forumers and NO2 seems to be less prefered (some said the pump is not there). I only tried white flood before, as for me i wont really go for second time thou, cant really feel the pump but focus is for sure.

Animal pak... looks like multivitamin + EAA, i have no comment on this hehe. In the future might try it out or may be animal stak (ada tongkat ali extract) lol

That narrows down the choice to NO2 or White Flood. I'm already taking whey (pre and post), bcaa (intra), creatine (but laying it off a bit) plus the usual fish oil, multi vit and c. Let's see what i can do.

I'd say Animal Pak(personally had good gains with it).

I'd only recommend NO Boosters for people who have lack of energy and focus in the gym. Which i doubt you do, lol.

Plus animal pak is an all rounder, you will get pumps and energy boosts from the B complex, chromium and other enhancers as well which contain no stimulants like most NO Boosters do.(you can get that caffeine boost from a cup or two of coffee/green tea)

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Added on April 13, 2010, 10:14 pmbut looks like you most of what animal pak offers covered.
but do give it a try when your vitamins and bcaa run out

This post has been edited by tineagle: Apr 13 2010, 10:14 PM

i think you need to try animal pump instead of animal pak...unless you're looking for combinations of multi-vits, bcaa and minerals...

I'm taking Ja3ked now. Works on arms days, or maybe thats just psychology. Doesn't really give me extra strength, just feel more focused. Try White flood la.

well, the reps have increased and you are pumped basically. i wont say you can train like animal, but the extra energy is there. besides, it tastes not bad.
havent tried white flood b4. also need review from ppl who have tried both.