Sometimes you will get mislead by these so called RICH people. They just do not have the intention to pay. Probably this is how they become rich in the first place.

rm30k.... not little bit amount leh...
why never chase? unless u also RICH ppl, rm30k to you is small small case
u can hire a lawyer & sue the RICH!!

haha, we did hire lawyer, and 3 warning latter already, but some how, we realise... he not a (normal) rich man, haha, so becoz of own family safety.. forget about it...

Put it this way, if he own you something, it will pay back maybe not in monetary term. Is call Karma

There is a saying, what goes around comes around.

Ya, that what i believe too, so i sure my life will getting well, and i sure he will in the other way. ^^

Well, that's one positive way of looking at it and get on with life

This post has been edited by kelvyn: Aug 17 2011, 12:57 PM

Not only from contractor...it occurred on me when buy furniture.. especially you order from catalog when showroom don't have the actual thing. What you see is not what you get it...and what shop promise you, is not what them going to do. When shit happen, I was told I need to pay to change back what I want :s ...

Hi there,

Just a share story for my renovation which start on last year.

About Sept 2010, I had appointed Kejuruteraan Keris Emas to renovate my house in Puchong.
On Oct and Nov 2010, the work progress is quite fast and I'm quite happy with that. However, start from Dec 2010, the work all stop and hardly to find the contractor name Indra Haliz. Everytime once his pick up my call (sometime I had to use different phone number to call him), he will provide bunch of reasons, e.g. waiting for parts, workers runaway, his vendor still pending and bla bla bla...

On Feb/Mar 2011, I managed to get his family and he come to me said that he will continue the rest of work. Again, he just show few times and only done 90% of my landscaping (this is another story again within him and the guy who doing the landscaping, it is also unhappy), but later on also doesn't show up and pickup my calls. Has contact his family again, his family told that he said there already too much works on my house and lossing so much of $$, should not continue my works. I just $%^$^#^#$% and again his family also totally does not pick up the calls.

On Apr 2011, finally I have made a police report and reported to tribunal court.

Below is the items which haven't complete:
1. Autogate system does not deliver and install.
2. Kitchen table top and cabinet does not deliver and built/setup.
3. 1 toilet does not tiles (originally I didn't plan to change the tiles but he dismantled my tiles due to mistake)
4. all toilet accessories include the toilet bowl does not install and 1 toilet bowl installed in wrong toilet which the size if different.
5. number of downlights install less than per contract agreement stated.
6. Autogate door comes with cheap quality but not follow the design that I choose, but still charge my RM4k+ included the autogate system as per contract.
7. Air con points and some power points does not install.

On May/June 2011, I have appointed new contractor and below is the more finding and fixing:

1. Water leak on extended kitchen, required to redo the waterproof system.
2. Change the lamps in L-box from fluorescent lamp to T5 and redo the wiring.
3. The wiring mostly just loop and loop, some wiring redo only (recently found the sockets on dining room does not provide enough power)
4. Extended kitchen landscaping does not doing well, one side of the wall is just 110 degree but not 90 degree.

Below is the information regards Kejuruteraan Keris Emas and Contractor information:

Forum ID: AzimAdhwa
Kejuruteraan Keris Emas
ROB: SA0056842U
Name: Indra Haliz
Birthday: 21 Sept 1986
H/P: 019-3795792
Phone: 03-33746963
Email: kkerisemas@yahoo.com
Address: LOT 449, JALAN SUNGAI BERTIK, 41100 Klang, Selangor
CIMB Bank Acc: 12210009564057
Maybank Acc: 162544000249

Until now he still haven't return me the advance payment and also the defect works, but I still saw he is active in the forum, so now has wrote this topic and inform all the forumers to beware of this.

Thanks.

He is still very active for past few month....

Go his house / office

http://www.cidb.gov.my/directory/local_con...?cont_id=128640

Thank you for sharing Silverong. I almost contacted this person for quotation. Now can struck off already. Really sorry to hear what you went through.

Good for you to file a police report and report to tribunal court.

When people take your hard earn money, they think you can afford it mah....they have no right!!!

I am interested what can the police and tribunal court can do to protect victims of this type of fraud.

Do update on this forum so that victims or potential victims know what to do in this kind of case...

kam engineering a?

Talking about bad experience with a contractor. Last month, September i noticed that my roof was leaking at my kitchen and then i saw a name card in my letter box who advertise themselves as Roof Waterproofing Specialist. That day i rang them up and explain about my problem and ask them to provide me some quotation.

They mention they will send their specialist team to my house on the very afternoon but i was not free and ask them to come the following Saturday. So they came and provide their specialist advice they are able to solve this and quote me RM850. At first i was reluctant to pay but they insured me that they provide me 1 year warranty is there is still any leaking at the same spot. So i let them repair my roof and unexpectedly they just paint a water proofing epoxy around my kicthen roof between the metal gutter and the wall and insured will they will be no problem.

The next few days, there was a heavy storm and i noticed there was still leaking on my kitchen plaster ceiling after i can repainted it after the roof was fixed. Frustated i rang up the company to complaint and ask them to come to check and fix it since it was still under warranty. After calling them daily and complain then only they send their team to check. ( I was wondering why the post service is so bad and they only come after two weeks of complaining which does not match with their initial service which they will come right on the spot when i call them the first time!!)

Then the roof specialist team went up to the roof and check and explain that during heavy storm the water will splatter in between the gutter and roof tiles (again i was questiong myself, if they were specialist why did they found the problem during the initial inspection) and then they recommend to put another feet of zinc sheet on top of the roof to prevent the roof leaking. ( Initial, i was happy that they found the root cause but here comes the nightmare and they mention that they will charge another extra RM600 for this service).

I was shocked when they mention that they will charge me extra but i mention it was still in warranty and they should fix it for free but they mention the warranty was for the waterproof epoxy coating which they did before and they mention there was no crack on the coating. I tried to argue that the warranty was for the roof leaking which they had initially insured me that it wont leak again at the same spot. In my mind, painting the water proofing epoxy was just too expensive which i could buy a top grade waterproof epoxy for RM 150 and paint it myself.

After mentioning that it is still warranty and they should repair it for free, they provide so many excuse and reason then lastly i was frustated and requested them to bare at least 50% of the cost and i pay them RM300 but they refused. I was totally dissapointed with their dishonesty and integrity about the warranty that they insured me and told them off that i will not continue their service for the following repair required.. So i would like to kindly advice please think twice to request for services from those advertise name card and this particular company

Company Name : Top Form Water Proofing Specialist
Contact Number : 012-2302370


Lastly i requested another roof specialist recommend by neighbour and he only charge me Rm200 to repair and it was excellent. The company Top Form really charge very expensive ,dishonest in the warranty insured and bad after sales service.


This post has been edited by edwin32us: Oct 28 2011, 09:33 AM

From my own experience, I will never get these so called specialist to carry out any repair work. Those that go around distributing calling cards, etc. If they are good, they don't this kind of advertisement. People will find them by word of mouth. Not only that they are way over priced & out to make a quick buck from people's misery; but they are not experience and knowledgeable. It is quite common that they push to the house owner to pay for additional work that they have overlooked previously (from lack of experience)

Good Day,

I could sense your frusturation. I'm a contractor myself. Usually for mid size to large project I would have a CA (Cotractors Agreement) with the house owner. In this agreement we would set terms like due date (where a contractor will be penalised for delays on agreed due date) and terms on agreed work and materials to be supplied. ( ussualy consist of a long detailed list ). Furthermore the agreement would also state that contractor would need prior written consent from owner for additional work and charges. Payment terms will also be covered in the agreement. Final payment will only be given after hand over of the project whereby customer has to be satisfied with the work done. Any damage incurred during project, customer could appoint another contractor or chose the same contractor to repair the damge and all cost would be the contractors liability.
This CA will ensure house owners are protected and the contractors will stick by the agreed terms n conditions. Thus situation like above could be avoided. Why waste your hard earned money just like that. You should get for what you paid for.

Hope this helps (moving forward)

Thanks

Hi Edwin,

I had the exactly same experience as you. Two weeks back I notice that my extended kitchen roof was leaking. I was looking around for ppl to fix it when I come across this flyers in my mailbox stated that they r the "roofing specialist".. I call them up and they r at my place within an hour. Told me that I need to put up zinc on my roof to prevent any leakage. Ok So I engage them and they quote me 2k to put up all the zinc and some pipe and gutter as well. At first I was happy with their service.. They did it within a day and demanded for payment. I pay them as I can see the job is done.

After about a week, I notice that one part of my roof is still leaking after a heavy thunderstorm. I call them up to complain as it stated that they will give a warranty of 1 yr. They say they will come back n rectified the problem.. is only small matter. After 4 days still nobody is at my place to fix it. I call them up again daily saying that why nobody is here yet. Again they give me the same excuse..the report have been send up maybe the contractor is not free, got many job.. bla bla bla.

After reading your story that they will charge u extra when they actually provide the so call "warranty", I'm also scared to ask them come back now. This people is so dishonest.

You mention that you engage another roof specialist to get the job done for only RM 200, how was the job done? Still got leak? Can share on the contacts ?

Anyway, the name of the company I mention above is :

EPS Waterproofing Construction

Contact : 012 920 6166

Never never engage them!!

To all Owner,

I'm a designer and i do design and build. In the market now. Alot of ppl will consider us as a contractor and just let me explain between designer and contractor.

Contractor.
Contractor normally u all will face Main Con and there will sub all the thing to other ppl do. Maybe himself onli doing some controlling. They just wan to find the work asap and grab money and tat end of the stroy. THIS IS CALL CONCTRACTOR.

Designer
Beside we designer firm onli do the design part we aso will gv alot of service on QC and coordinated with all the subcon and main con to make sure they to they work well. will good finishing and we are learn to provide our service to customers.

So if u all next time wan to play safe please attach to a design firm. Our Knowledge on renovation is more then contractor and so owner itself.

Thx


Best Regards,
Benny.W

P/S i just sick of those this kind of contractor. it make our market suck to the max. lolx

cheers

What coldman86 is very very true. I couldn't agree more.

To all property owners out there, please be alert and careful with your selection.

coldman86, open a new thread here and tell us more about your company and etc. I guess many ppl here happy to know more and engage design company like your 1.