my saga blm after changed to Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 Fully Synthethic Motor Oil, car more noisy and no power.

weird thing is my car is smooth only after 100km/h, below it, the engine is like suffering, anyone know why? is this normal?

I bought this oil from tesco, Rm 138 not sure is original or not. Previously i was using eneos semi, it was very good overall.

Underpowered cars should never use Shell Helix engine oils. Even 1.8 and 2.0 liter engines complain of the same symptoms you have as Shell oils have always been known to be rather 'thick'. Nothing more you can do but just to make sure that you don't use Shell again on your next oil change.

i see, but will it spoil my car engine? or i need to change to semi now? it just ran for 1 k only.

Btw, how you do define underpower ?

I've the same very problem. Every time after service car with Shell Helix oil, car engine gets lauder and sluggish. I can confirm there was a change when EON service center used Petronas Syntium oil when i serviced. (that was at my home town). I recently serviced my car again at Proton Edar service center (the usual place i service my car and they use Shell Helix) and i can tell you the different was obvious. I feel car was much more smoother when used Syntium.

This post has been edited by jaya7: Mar 31 2010, 06:00 PM

After when you feel like not going back to proton service center, try eneos oil around Rm 95, it was much better than primax. Save fuel somemore. I'll continue using that oil in the future.

Shame on SHELL on saga blm (On other cars not sure )

Well, if a 1.8 Putra or V6 2.0L engines can feel the sluggishness, what do you think it would do to a 1.3L BLM? Don't waste it. Just use it till the next oil change. No harm will come to your engine. It is not like you used the wrong kind of engine oil. It is still ok as long as you can live with the sluggishness.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Mar 31 2010, 06:09 PM

Fully synthetic RM138

Not rm180 ++ ?

Normally
Mineral = 60 to 70
Semi = 90 to 100
Fully = 180 to 190

I like the Petronas Primax. I use Primax Syntium 5000 0W-40 and that is one great oil.

Yeah, i have same perception as yours. That's so happen normally they selling it at around 180 and suddenly drop to 138 then only i buy.

I think new model is coming to replace this.

There are somebody selling here at RM 130, same thing.

Which Petronas Primax are you comparing the ENEOS oil with? You are not generalising ALL the primax oils, are you? Primax Mach 5, Syntium 800, 1000, 3000 or 5000? Which one are you comparing?

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Added on March 31, 2010, 6:08 pmThe Shell Helix Ultra is entry level fully synthetic from Shell. They have a few more grades higher and those will fall into your standard high level fully synthetic price range.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Mar 31 2010, 06:08 PM

I'm comparing with the semi synthetic oil the proton HQ service center provide (Don't ask me what grade, i've forgotten and those who normally service there will know). The price is about RM 99

bro...how is Mobil 1 fully-sync 0w40??... i?? hows the oil? since you mention about shell oils are thick..what about Mobil engine oils......

You cannot go wrong with Mobil either but have to watch for their multiple levels of Mobil1. There is more than one...

One of the reasons I go with Petronas is due to the lack of fakes in the market since you can only buy Petronas oil from their Petrol stations or large approved workshops. You seldom find petronas in spareparts shops. This reduces the chances of fakes.

As for other brands like Mobil and especially Castrol (which is mainly distributed by spareparts shop), there's quite a number of fakes out there.

MOTUL got fakes out there??


re-ggurdss,
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Plenty. Any fancy engine oil that does not have a large secured distribution/retail base will have the same risk. Can you go to Motul Malaysia and get the oil from them? I think not since there is no Motul Malaysia. They have some local company running the imports that might be the only safe place to get it.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Apr 1 2010, 09:08 AM

i believe this is the malaysia's distributor, http://www.motul.com.my/eng/dealer_locator/index.html i am a previous user of motul engine oils.

Yes. That the local company I mentioned but it is still not Motul Malaysia. So unless you can go to them to get your engine oil, there is no guarantee that the Motul you get from sparepart shops are genuine. They are just a distributor not a controlling agent.

owh..kk...but comparing to shell and castrol,penzoil...i rarely sees mobil in sparepart shops..only a few shops....

how about penzoil??my BLM is use penzoil 5w-40 i never use other brand..

blm engine just used semi sync oil or mineral oil... not suitable for fully sync