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 Astro B.yond V4.1, WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD OF HD

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TallJustin
post Apr 5 2010, 09:38 AM

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someone mention my name?
What have I done? I didn't do it I swear!
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post Apr 5 2010, 10:26 PM

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Of course there is porn TV. I use to build the playout schedule of one in Australia. It's actually quite boring after awhile.

I don't see it happening in Malaysia until MCMC changes it tune, & I don't see that happening any time soon & I don't think that is a bad thing either.

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post Apr 6 2010, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 6 2010, 01:05 AM)
I wonder if it's already showing on ASSP HD? hmm.gif Also, the source is from wikipedia.... sweat.gif
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Seriously, did you read the entire quote?
BTW wikipedia is not a "source". Everything inwikipedia is meant to be backed up with a citation that has a link. THis quote has none.

here it is

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The Economist has suggested that News Corporation would eventually like to merge AAAN with its US satellite operation, DirecTV, BSkyB and possibly its STAR TV network to form a global satellite TV company[citation needed]. However, News Corporation has now sold its stake in DirecTV; in return for the sale Murdoch got John Malone's stake in News Corp. Astro is also rumoured to be interested in adding NFL Sunday Ticket as well as the NASCAR Hot Pass (currently available on DirecTV in the US).


Someone is confussing News Corp and Astro and the fact that it says "astro is rumoured to..." goes against wikipedia guidelines of entry. So thank you Qash-M for pointing it out. I've deleted the entire "Future" entry off that page.


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post Apr 6 2010, 11:40 AM

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Qash-M you starting another rumour?
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post Apr 8 2010, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Apr 8 2010, 03:25 PM)
Wow u can now see losing signal in HD !!!!!!! RM20 is worth 5 channels plus rain fade in HD ! rclxm9.gif
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I take it from that comment that you don't even have b.yond?

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post Apr 8 2010, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(ITrocks @ Apr 8 2010, 09:27 PM)
Just got byond today, hate that I can't control the volume with the remote control from Astro, and I have to put the TV audio level really high. Also, when viewing Standard Definition channels, the volume's really soft but in HD channels, it's really loud. Anyone else experiencing this problem?
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no one reads manuals any more do they?
Volume control

try adjusting the levels of you surround sound system to adjust the level difference between SD and HD
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post Apr 9 2010, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 9 2010, 05:29 PM)
Even if the decoder is cooled down, there's still audio/video sync problem and sometimes "garbled picture". icon_question.gif

Like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_effect
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Be careful, you're turning into a wiki engineer.

The Cliff effect only refers to how all digital signal is either on or off (Rain fade for example) rather then analog which fades out.

Audio sync issues on 5.1 are totally due to your system set up and its processing time, that is why there is a control to compensate it.

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post Apr 9 2010, 07:36 PM

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yeah it's SD
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post Apr 10 2010, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(klseet @ Apr 10 2010, 03:44 PM)
Hi,

I'm about to upgrade to Astro Beyond mainly for the Worldcup.
I have some question and hope you sifu here can share some experience/advice:

1. those 5 channels will be in 16:9 display through HDMI, but what happen to others since the source will be in 4:3 ? Stretch and force to 16:9 and become "fat & short"?

2. if this happen, is there any method we can setup on the Beyond decoder to auto-zoom those 4:3 channels and fit into 16:9 by keeping the aspect ratio ?

3. I was told that those non-HD channels image quality is better than the existing decoder, is it truth?

Thanks in advance!
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there is controls for the SD video out put.

aspect ratio controls

there was a zoom option but it was replaced with the fit to screen. I think we will bring back the zoom option in the future as a 3rd option but currently the box only can do 2 settings. Therefore use your TV to zoom if you can or watch it in Pillar box, this is how it is meant to be seen.
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post Apr 11 2010, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(klseet @ Apr 10 2010, 10:18 PM)
Why Astro want to "remove" the zoom option from the decoder which suppose to enrich viewing experience?  blink.gif
How many of us like to watch distorted "FatFat-Shortshort" TV?? cry.gif

If we still have to use TV remote control to zoom in & out between channels, it would be very troublesome for us...
Imagine, after paying extra, both hands need to hold 2 remote controls.... I guess no more beer & peanuts to enjoy anymore ..... doh.gif


Added on April 10, 2010, 10:21 pmHi TallJustin,

You said "....we will bring back the zoom option..."
Are you working with Astro?
Or you know some trick to enable the decoder to bring back zoom option ? Mind to share how ?
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I work for them.

read the B.yond v.3 tread and talk to all the others on here about the zoom feature. I was probably the only one that used it, so they took it away.


Added on April 11, 2010, 12:16 am
QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 10 2010, 10:57 PM)
Mine is solved using laptop cooler. The one with big hugh fan. tongue.gif
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what was solved? you cooled it down but you never had a problem.


Added on April 11, 2010, 12:17 am
QUOTE(klseet @ Apr 10 2010, 11:04 PM)
holy .... you mean we have to treat the HD decoder like a notebook and buy a Cooler Master underneath it ?? shocking.gif
Even then, if I'm not wrong, those notebook cooler is not flat, so how to .....
This is REALLY getting VERY troublesome now  rclxub.gif
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I don't cool mine down, it's fine.

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Apr 11 2010, 12:30 AM)
Mine is, only use the decoder 1-2 hours and is easily overheat. Cooled it down solved the problem. smile.gif
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yeah they can get warm but if it was over heating it wouldn't work

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The zoom feature is really meant for watching 4:3 letter boxed programmes on a 16:9 screen,you get full frame picture and correct aspect ratio.

use it on a full frame SD channel and it will cut the top and bottom off the picture.

Anyway new plasma's have better burn in prevention technology. I wouldn't worry about it, just watch it in pillar box.


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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Apr 11 2010, 07:19 PM)
And how many SD channels broadcast letterboxed?

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it's not a channel thing it's a show by show thing hence why make it switchable from the remote rather then set as default.

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post Apr 14 2010, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(klseet @ Apr 14 2010, 03:55 PM)
To TallJustin,

Can you share some technical experience in terms of old Vs new cable for the B'yond?

- My current cable was concealed when I moved in about 6 years ago.
- Except for the usual raining black-out no image problem, so far my Astro has no problem at all.

I can understand the advantage of new cable but I don't think it will be conceal again due to messy work involved....
But is it ok if the new cable is not conceal ? blink.gif

While I'm writing this, I just received an SMS and the installer confirm will come over tomorrow morning to install rclxms.gif
I ask him the same question, he said better change and he said ok if unconceal.....

Too excited now drool.gif  tonight probably insomnia until morning..... tongue.gif
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Sorry guys been really busy & it ain't stopping, on top of work my wife is going to deliver our first born tomorrow (induced)

So to quickly answer you.

Get the installed to check first hand. Don't use concealled. You don't know if it's spilt or broken or damaged.

Give me a few weeks to settle things down & I'll return to being a regular on here & updating my blog
cheers
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QUOTE(klseet @ May 7 2010, 10:24 AM)
Sorry bros, the more I read the more I get confused now ..... rclxub.gif
So is it so sort of "firmware" upgrade to the current Byond box withe the "record/burn" application, so we just plug in HDD through USB and press "Record" button? What format? Can later play on PC? So we just leave the Byond on 24 hrs from now to update?? blink.gif
The firmware is still in testing and not released yet.

QUOTE(klseet @ May 7 2010, 10:24 AM)
Oh ya ah, TallJustin's new born baby should be full moon liao right ?!  tongue.gif
Hope he can help to clarify further.
We had a girl and she's great, surprised you mentioned it actually.

I'm testing the system now but I can't clarify a lot of things until astro makes a press release about it. Where I can I will answer questions. Yes it is just a firmware update to get the service.


QUOTE(klseet @ May 7 2010, 10:24 AM)

Many years ago before the DVD recorder, I was using some kind of video capture device/card to record into PC, but it was expensive and the result is not so good.  With technology advancement, I'm trying to check around what kind of PC recording solution which possibly can either replace my current setup. But that will take time, so definitely I'll keep my recorders for time being.

Hope some sifu out there also can provide some idea/suggestion on movie/video recording solution nod.gif
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HDCP over HDMI prevents the recording of HD quality but if you use composite cables there are lots of devices out there that can record but it's only recording SD quality. I'm using a Pinnacle Hybrid TV Tuner with EyeTV software.



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post May 9 2010, 02:13 AM

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thanks mate,

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QUOTE(klseet @ May 9 2010, 02:14 AM)

Thanks for the Pinnacle recommendation, will check it out soon!
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this is a Mac option. Lots more PC versions

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QUOTE(liverpool red @ May 30 2010, 08:54 AM)
Hmm i cant seem to find any of the international friendlies today on the sports HD channels when i was on the astro site but then again, the astro site is so outdated, ESPN HD is like becoming the UCL channel already
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We couldn't agree with you more. In fact we are concerned about it and you will see massive changes to the site and the EPG very soon. In fact I'm personally working on improving the EPG.

So this week you will be getting news of some big changes and I'll give you a little heads up.

PVR is coming. there are 2 types of PVR. The PVR will allow recording of full quality broadcast so if you are recording HD you get HD playback.

1) Will be for existing b.yond decoder where you plug in a HDD into the back of the system. I've been testing this for a while now and it's a little gem.

THe HDD must be a drive that meets our power consumtion white paper for the decoder and at the moment the only one that I'm aware of that does this is a WD HDD (I'm using a WD My Passport AV). Others suck up too much power and they will will not work. THe recording quality is broadcast quality, so HD is played back in HD.

2) is the a new decoder with in built PVR. it's got 2 tuners so allows recording of 2 simulateous shows and if I've got this rigth playback of a 3rd all at the same time. Personally I've not tested this box.
It will require a special dual LNB that naturally have 2 cables coming to the box to feed the two tuners.

The PVR features aren't just about recording I find that the pause live broadcast feature is awesome. My phone rings, my baby craps her nappy or what ever I just hit pause and deal with it and then come back and hit play to take off from where I left.

Another little secret I discovered is that not only can you pause but rewind to watch that goal again and lets say you've been watching a programme from the start and you really get it into it and want to watch it again then just hit record. If you haven't changed channel during the broadcast of the show the HDD will automatically go back and keep the recording of the entire show for you.

The major thing you will find is that you watch TV differently. No longer do you just turn the box on and watch, now you turn the box on and sellect what you want to watch from the recording you have made. Kind of TiVo like.

To make this recording function better then the old astro max we are spending a lot of time improving the quality of the EPG. shortly you'll notice the start times of programmes will be far more accurate. As you know Malaysian law requires that we censor programmes & remove foregin commercials before they are broadcast and we do this in almost all our international channels live with a special delay system that holds the incoming video until it is edited and then it gets published. Problem with a PVR and this delay system is that you often would miss the end part of a show as it ran over the EPG scheduled time. We will be tweaking our EPG to compensate for this.

This is going to be a busy week for Astro and I hpoe you like what is coming.

Sorry I've been MIA on here, working on the data behind the EPG and my new baby girl click HERE (isn't she cute!) has meant that I've been too busy to drop by. Got any questions drop then on my blog. I reply to everyone and I do not censor your comments.

Cheers all
Justin

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ May 30 2010, 04:39 PM)
What does that mean? hmm.gif
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It means the new built-in PVR decoder has 2 tuners and you can't split the cable from the standard LNB you get with normal B.yond (signal loss and reduced quality). So to get 2 signals into the new PVR B.yond it has to come direct from a dual LNB which has an output of 2 cables that run direct from the dish to the decoder. This only applies to the new decoder it has nothing to do with the current b.yond box which has one tuner hence one cable coming from a standard LNB.

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QUOTE(dannychen @ May 30 2010, 05:08 PM)
Good News! but I'm more concern on the cost incurred for both external HDD and new PVR decoder. Any hints Justin?
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Nah sorry I don't know the costing info.


Added on May 30, 2010, 5:15 pm
QUOTE(AjkR06 @ May 30 2010, 05:06 PM)
Actually, I'm more interested for the new PVR box than connecting external HDD to my present Byond  tongue.gif
May I know, is that possible for me who already owned Byond to change to new Astro PVR?  hmm.gif
And I need to change the new dish + lnb also?
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Yes you can change and it will mean a new LNB, whether they change the dish I'm not sure? The dish is actually the same it is only the LNB that is different.

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