Do not agree

What tmnet is doing now is basically saying. Ok, you paid RM100 for this cake. However, you can't eat the whole cake, you can only take one bite. Even though you paid for the whole cake, because other people also paid for the whole cake, so they can also want to take a bite. Don't be greedy and selfish! Other people also want to eat the cake ok!

They charge you for a whole cake, but only give you one bite. They charge everyone for the whole cake, and give each one bite, the more people buy the whole cake, the smaller your share becomes. From a business point of view, this is amazing, because your cost remains the same, but your profits increase with each new customer. And the customers are all so gullible to accept the one bite for a price of a full cake.

If secret recipe were to do this, surely kena sue already. Yet there are people still defending tmnet.

No, they are paying for priority. So using a cake analogy, they get their cake before everyone else. Even if you were first in line and they came 2 hours later, they get the cake before you.

Doesn't mean you don't get your cake. Your cake just has lower priority. Which is the problem they are having now. They can't produce enough cakes, so they are giving one cake to many people who paid for 1 cake, instead of increasing production to give 1 cake to people who paid for it.

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Added on March 28, 2010, 1:47 pmNo, you don't understand the analogy

cake = bandwidth
factory/oven = international line

The better their production line (international line), the more cakes they can deliver (bandwidth). When you pay a fully dedicated line, you get your cake as priority, no matter what, you get your cake first. Which is fine, because not everyone is going to always buy full cakes, most of the time, people just buy slices, so you can accomodate that sort of demand.

Problem is when normal people are ordering more and more full cakes, and you can't keep up with the demand. You going to blame the consumers for ordering full cakes when you told them you can deliver it? Or are you going to increase your production to support it?

This post has been edited by silverhawk: Mar 28 2010, 01:47 PM

You guys still don't understand the analogy >"<

We are paying for cakes, because they advertise it as such. We are not paying for bites. If a cake is 1mbps, then a slice is something like 256kbps or something and a bite something like 56k (which is what we get with streamyx sometimes). If they advertised that we're paying for bites and if they have extra cakes we can have it(off-peak limits), then no one would be complaining.

However they want to market it enticingly, yet don't want to deliver on promises.

Doesn't make it right.

I don't over-promise when doing projects, and my clients like us because of that, they know exactly what to expect and exactly what they are paying for.Its the same with other services, and the best service to look at is web hosting companies. Many advertise unlimited, but you are actually limited. Which is why I rather pay for a service where I know how much I'm getting.

Rather than unlimited but limit me when I use 2GB or something.

Which is the whole point of the boycott.

I can get it, but not going to get it and advocate others to do the same so that in the end, we all get an overall better experience.

Its not available for a lot of people yet, but the question is. If it was available to you now, do you think the packages are fair for the price? If not, what would you like to see changed until you are willing to pay?

The whole point of the boycott is so that tmnet sees that there's opposition to their plans, and revise them to make it more fair to consumers. So if you can't get it now, but show that even when you can, you won't, then tmnet would be more likely to revise their plans, so when it does become available to you, you'll have a plan you like and can upgrade to it

So join the boycott and voice your concerns

You thought it was going to be uncapped forever?

Ladies and Gentlemen, May I present you with Exhibit A, a short-sighted and poorly informed consumer. This specimen easily falls for corporate tricks, thinking that he gets a good deal when in fact is being short changed.

You do realise you have a 2 year contract, and the caps they hit you with later is part of your T&C and you can't do much about it? How short sighted of you. Just because we can afford something, doesn't mean we should pay for it. Even if I can afford a RM5 cup of milo, doesn't mean its right for a road-side mamak to charge me that much for a cup.

Ahh, so you have too much money to spend Good for you. Then the caps won't matter to you as well, cause you can just go over the caps and get them to charge you per gigabyte, and you can just say "ahh, doesn't matter, small money I can pay for it" right?

From the tests so far, you get unifi also no use, the speed would be about the same as streamyx when connecting to international sites

could you post some results for international sites?

not too shabby

they are getting about 1/2 the speeds at most, haven't seen full speeds from international yet.

I have a US server I can put up files for people to do some download speed testing.

We know its not finalized yet, but until they finalize it, we're going to continue the boycott. Why sign a contract where terms are ambiguous? Doesn't make any sense to me.

For those of you are have signed up for unifi, if you know how to use FTP, help me get some transfer statistics.

server: ftp.hawk85.com
user: unifi
pass: speedtest

I've set the account limit to 1GB, the server has a lot of unutilised bandwidth. So upload some files, and others can download, so we can get a bit of a benchmark.

This post has been edited by silverhawk: Apr 1 2010, 11:13 AM

Not too shabby

Server is located in the US and its a shared hosting account, so I figured it would be a good way to test for the lowest common denominators. Quite impressed with the speed actually. Though I wonder why the speed goes up and down like that, its rather consistent in its behaviour.

do your other uploads/downloads from other sites/servers exhibit this behavior?

It should perform well locally, so I'm not too troubled about that.

What's the rough average you're getting from the international sites?

International latency is hard to control. The fibre local latency is amazing as has been posted by some of the users. As a previous metrofon user, I can tell you that local pings are great.

However, if you're going international, depending on where your traffic is routed your ping will always increase. Its not like you have fibre optic connections all the way to every server in the world.