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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadbrand Thread V4, Latest:NO cap 4 unifi packages 4 now ^_^

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post Apr 1 2010, 02:38 PM

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Hong Kong ISP has 1gbps package for only HK$99.

So, I suggest st least the following for unifail:

5mbps with 150gb cap = RM25
5 mbps with unlimited usage = RM50
10mbps with 300gb cap = RM50
10mbps unlimited usage package = RM100
20mbps with 600gb cap = RM100
20mbps with unlimited usage = RM200.

Since HK isp offer 1gbps for HK$99 only, the price I suggested above already considered high.
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post Apr 1 2010, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(cshong @ Apr 1 2010, 02:38 PM)
Hong Kong ISP has 1gbps package for only HK$99.

So, I suggest st least the following for unifail:

5mbps with 150gb cap = RM25
5 mbps with unlimited usage = RM50
10mbps with 300gb cap = RM50
10mbps unlimited usage package = RM100
20mbps with 600gb cap = RM100
20mbps with unlimited usage = RM200.

Since HK isp offer 1gbps for HK$99 only, the price I suggested above already considered high.
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My fault. Correction: is 100mbps not 1gbps. And the 100mbps is for local connection only. 20mbps for overseas connection. But, HK$99 is still cheaper than Unifi's 5 mbps package.
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post Apr 1 2010, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Apr 1 2010, 02:48 PM)
How is their broadband quality ?
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This one really have to ask the Hong Kong citizen.
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post Apr 1 2010, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Gh-x @ Apr 1 2010, 03:12 PM)
That is the one I'm talking about.
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post Apr 1 2010, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 1 2010, 05:10 PM)
The HSBB project used government money, which means tax payers money, which means, MY MONEY. Yeah, I have a right to complain, and I also have the right to complain when they're not getting more international bandwidth but still rolling out more bandwidth packages, which means less share for everyone else.
I don't expect them to compete directly, but at least provide a few DESIRABLE channels which they've failed to do. If you want people to see value in it, then you must entice them to it, not just throw it in and expect them to appreciate it. People aren't stupid, because the "free gift" has cost factored into it already
laugh.gif The example was just to show you the difference in disposable income and prices and how it affects affordability. Yea, go ahead and wire up the rural areas which have LESS PEOPLE, which make LESS MONEY and charge them THE SAME PRICE as you're charging people who MAKE MORE MONEY. Seriously, you think that is a sound business model?

If its expensive, favor or no favor, you think the rural people are going to pay RM149 for a 5mbps package? You think that is CHEAP?
You're a bigger retard to think if nasi lemak was the point doh.gif
I am actually already in the process of compiling a list. You want some source? Yea, here you go

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Still want to say we're cheaper and have good value? I'm not even done with the list yet and tmnet is already showing to be incredibly expensive.
Bla bla bla, the only thing you can do is attack people without bringing out any substantial points of your own.
Considering I've been using streamyx since the 1st day it rolled out, I have seen how the service has degraded over the years. Anecdotal? Yea, perhaps, but its an anecdotal experience shared by many others. I pose a challenge to you, go and PM any of the LYN members now who use streamyx, and ask them if they're happy with the quality of service provided by streamyx. Heck, you can even go out of your house and do it.
Yea, and you would just lap up anything tmnet tells you like a good dog. I don't c are if my evidence is anecdotal, its a fact that I'm experiencing a bad service, and so do others. As if a point of discontent isn't enough for a complaint. Next time you go eat food and you find a roach in it, don't complain la. Anecdotal evidence only right, all the other customers didn't experience it, so shut up and eat that roach in your soup.
Possiblity of a cap? I WANT A CAP idiot. I just want it to be reasonable to what a high speed broadband should be like. If they want to keep the cap as it is, I'm fine with that, lower the prices. I don't give a shit if all the money they invested is their own money, but they used tax payers money for the job as well, which means I get a say.
That's 20% of the project, not a substantial amount to you?
Just curious, cause you didn't seem to reply in a way to show you understood what it meant.
More accusations again, can't you do anything better than that? I don't know about you, but I buy my games, and I buy them through steam as well, which means downloading the game and also patches, which are not by any means small. We've mentioned this many times already, high speed broadband is going to be used to get more high bandwidth content, and the low caps do not reflect a future for this.

Do you send and receive files from friends? Ever received 200MB+ files which are just pictures? The internet is moving forward, technology is moving forward, heck South Korea which only gained its independence after a CIVIL WAR in the late 80s, already had way better internet connectivity 5 years ago than we are "rolling out" now.
TMnet did it for free? THEY USED TAX PAYERS MONEY. Until that point gets into your head, you'll never see why some people are just so pissed about it. If you think my anecdotal evidence means nothing, that is fine. However the general dislike and hatred for tmnet speaks volumes about their branding and public perception... and they didn't get to that point by being great. You can ignore that if you want, you can continue calling people names if it makes you feel better and that it justifies your position.

The fact remains, we are way behind in terms of the internet, and we're not even trying to catch up.
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+1.

Not only your money, BUT MY MONEY ALSO. We paid the taxes, but at the end we get the UNACCEPTABLE CAPPED internet service AT HIGH PRICE. Malaysia's internet always lack behind. Hong Kong's 100mbps package's price not even reach 50% of the price of current Streamyx 1mbps. The whole Kuching area are ever the victim of TM's slow connection.

I still remember not long ago there is one time that the whole Sarawak, Sabah and Johor GET SUPER SLOW SPEED at the same time. And at that time, it is a long time after APCN2 cable has been completely repaired.

powerfulcool said 1000 households have wonderful experience with Streamyx service. 1000 households, can compare with the whole Sarawak, Sabah and Johor?
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post Apr 1 2010, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(pengiranijam @ Apr 1 2010, 06:17 PM)
Not only your money. Its all Malaysian people money here.

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Not only Malaysian, foreigners in Malaysia, foreign businesses in Malaysia, and also foreign companies who export products to Malaysia are also paying taxes to Malaysia government.


QUOTE(pengiranijam @ Apr 1 2010, 06:17 PM)
The APCN2 story before infecting whole Malaysia user not just Sarawak, Sabah and Johor.
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I was referring to the time which is a few months after the APCN2 cable has been fully restored, not during the APCN2 cable breakdown period.

And, at that time, it was only Sabah, Sarawak and Johor face the slow down problem, while no problem in other areas.

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post Apr 1 2010, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 1 2010, 06:29 PM)
What sort of time would they need?

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Let me assume:

Contacting and making appointment with the bandwidth supplier - 1 day.
Having disussion with the bandwidth supplier - 1 day.
Prepare the money to be paid to the supplier - 1 day.
Sign the contract + payment - 1 day.
Fully implement the bandwidth - few hours.

Total = about 4 - 5 days.
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post Apr 2 2010, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(slickz @ Apr 1 2010, 10:49 PM)
I don't know man, all this ranting about how our broadband sucks and how it is lagging behind other countries.... So ... other countries broadband so perfect? is the grass REALLY greener on the other side?
http://www.comcastsucks.org/
http://www.who-sucks.com/tech/8-reasons-wh...yond-all-belief

No matter what broadband company out there, there'll still be people like you guys who just go and just kutuuuuuuk only. Do take note that the unifi service JUST launched. Premium prices are a norm with new tech. How cheap was the ipod touch when it first launched? Remember the ridiculous price of the PS3? The PSP?

I think I've spent enough time in this subforum. Goodbye.
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Disagree. When a company got problem, or the price does not worth or more expensive than the market price (market price for whole world, not just a country), we should complain until they solve it.
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post Apr 2 2010, 03:24 PM

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Paid so much taxes and money, but at the end what we get is an unacceptable capped internet.

"you paid gold but what you get is peanut service or no service at all"

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 2 2010, 04:32 PM)
laugh.gif Malaysia where got so honest, you really think its because of TmNet's experience? FYI, Maxis has experience with broadband, so do other companies like TIME and penangfon/metrofon (which has more experience regarding fibre services to residential areas).

Expertise can always be brought in (and usually is), you think TM does all the work themselves? Laying cables and all are handled by contractors, not by TM specifically. So while the people go in as an entity (e.g. Maxis, Time, etc), behind that entity there will always be contractors/companies/experts leading it. Things aren't just so simple and clear cut like "Maxis don't have wired broadband, so they can't do wired".
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post Apr 3 2010, 03:44 PM

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Just because of a simple programming assignment, I have to download a C++ library which the installation file size is over 4GB. Very often, the downloaded files are corrupted and I have to re-download everything again. So, just a few days, I already used more than 16 gb of bandwidth just for a setup file, and this 16gb does not include other usage by my family members. And this is just a start, I still have to download many other C++ library files which is required for my assignment.

Shit! I can't really imagine what will be happened if I subscribe to this capped Unifail.

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 3 2010, 04:37 PM)
You say it as though all professional C++ programmers have more than 500GB of DLL's and header files in their PCs which they have to keep re-downloading for some reason  hmm.gif Only thing I can think of which is that big and needed for basic C++ assignments would be SDKs, namely the Windows SDK which is a 1 time download. Besides, UniFi doesn't corrupt downloads as much as ADSL or even at all due to the difference in technology.

Next, people are going to be saying they have to keep downloading Linux ISOs for their Linux ISO collection (because we all know that's what everyone torrents rolleyes.gif)
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May be you never meet an assignment which many of the required features cannot be done with Windows SDK. Windows SDK wouldn't use that much. But if Windows SDK + Boost C++ Libraries (this is the one that make me download so much) + wxwidgets (my assignment require GUI) + SQL Server (connection to the database is required) + some other required libaries = require so much bandwidth.
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QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 3 2010, 08:14 PM)
Actually no, the best way to stop excessively is to charge every GB over the monthly quota, the extra money is good enough to allow TMnet getting extra Internet backbone to coupe with the demand. You dont stop people from doing what they like to do, u charge them for what they do excessively, if they are happy to pay for it, let them be. if they are not happy to pay for it or they cannot afford to pay for it, they will stop themselves.
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"extra money is good enough to allow TMnet getting extra Internet backbone to coupe with the demand"

Since our government collect taxes from us + corruption, that should be 100000000000000000000000 times more than enough to cover the cost for upgrading backbone + purchase bandwidth. The taxes we paid are 10000000000 times more than enough to subsidy the cost of purchasing bandwidth.

We pay taxes for them to develop our country, including the internet. If they don't do it, instead want us to pay more, fine, then return back our taxes.

It is not that they don't have money for upgrading the backbone + purchasing huge amount of bandwidth, it is they have the money but want to take our taxes and then put into their own pocket.
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QUOTE(igothack @ Apr 3 2010, 09:28 PM)
Alot of you complain and complain. But when it comes down to it you are definitely going to stick with it because whether you like it or not TM Net is the best ISP in Malaysia at the moment.

If you don't upgrade to unifi, you're still going to be using streamyx. either way your money still goes into tmnets pocket.
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This is because our government sucks, want to eat our money.

Even if TMnut is the best ISP in Malaysia, but still is one of the top of the world's most suckest and selfishness ISP.
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QUOTE(sohlican @ Apr 3 2010, 09:50 PM)
Everyone complaints about users P2P too much, download too much, streaming too much; congesting the network and all those crap.  I personally feel very offended and before anyone flame me, yes I download a lot, and basically 24/7.

People goes to a buffet restaurant, pay to eat as much as they can.  Then the owner comes out and say, please share the food, we do not have extra.  Whose fault do you think it is? Who should be the one to be responsible for the shortage of food?  The customer or the owner? For fark sake, I can go out vomit and come back eat again if I want.

Think about it guys, if TM gives us all unlimited bandwidth for all packages, then if there is a network congestion, blame TM; don't come and blame the users.

By all means if TM wants to have a ridiculous bandwidth cap or shaping then there's nothing we can do about it.

Feedback can be given to TM but whether or not they listen, it is not for us to decide.

If you like the service, you felt it is worth paying, go ahead and subscribe it.

My point is, I just hate users blaming users for network congestion, people P2P too much, DDL too much.  I pay for the internet for God's sake.  I'll use it however I want.  No one, especially users have the right to tell me what's correct and what's wrong!
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100% agree.

However, if anyone feel angry for my following statement, then I apologize, but I just want to tell how I feel about those people who defend for TM instead of asking TM to purchase more bandwidth.

I will not blame those who defend TM. Instead, I pity them. Because I do feel that they are brainwashed by TM.
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 3 2010, 11:32 PM)
Anyway, my experience aside.. I just don't see downloading programming libraries as an excuse for high bandwidth consumption.
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TM also use "x% of users using xx% of bandwidth" as excuses to brainwash those light users who experience slow download so that TM can keep our money in their pocket. Yes, they success brainwash those users, and some of those brainwashed users are replying in this thread.

QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 3 2010, 11:32 PM)
In many uni level assignments, most students will get their files from their lecturer or classmates. For example if you do indeed need MSSQL server (non express version) for a project, you would pick the DVD up from campus or get it from a friend. Even if you do download everything, at most you're looking at 5-10GB of files in total.

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Why should I break my dignity and go and request from my lecturer / friends when I can get the latest version for free online? I most hate borrowing something from other people.

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QUOTE(Raven-X @ Apr 3 2010, 11:15 PM)
it's because of pricks like you my connection sux.
u don't own the connection. u just payed for the rental and furthermore, it's your daddy who paid for your internet connection not u so STFU pls.
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Another TM brainwashed customer replying in this thread.

IT IS TM WHO DOES NOT TAKE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO UPGRADE THEIR BANDWIDTH.
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QUOTE(Raven-X @ Apr 4 2010, 02:14 AM)
are you retarded? do u think upgrade bandwidth costs like upgrading your pc? stop being an idiot for a change, please?
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I can't believe you say this.

Are you retarded? Do you really believe that TM or our government cannot afford the cost of upgrading bandwidth? If you really believe that, that means TM or government successfully brainwashed you. I pity you. So kesian.

Many people in this world know that TM and our government want to take our money and put in their own pocket, only those brainwashed or ignorant person never know. Don't tell me you don't know. If you don't know, lol, I just know that their ability of brainwashing people are so powerful. If you know about it, based on your post, you are just the same as those evil who help other evil to brainwash or bully people.
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QUOTE(Tokiya @ Apr 4 2010, 01:16 PM)
subscribed 20mb, and installed one hour ago, as for current maximum speed for downloads, either BT or megaupload (with account) is about 2mb+ kinda disappointing..
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Your 2 mb is megabytes per second or megabits per second? If you are saying what you see on your computer, your computer will only show the speed in megabytes per second.

1 megabytes = 8 megabits. For the 20mb package, 20mb means 20 megabits per second. So, 20 megabits per second / 8 = 2.5 megabytes per second.

However, I am just tell you the information.

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QUOTE(Tokiya @ Apr 4 2010, 01:41 PM)
I am sorry, abit noob at this sorta stuff,
so what does this say?

user posted image
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I am sorry to tell you that your image not clear so hard to read. but if I am not wrong, it display 209kb/sec right? If true, it should be 209 kilobytes per second, 209 kilobytes per second = 1672 kilobits per second = 1.6328125 megabits per second, that is more lower than your stated "2mb". Only about 8.164% of your subscribed speed. So slow.

I can feel your disappointment. And, sorry for my previous post.

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