If all CnC were good then tiberium sun would have been well received by others.

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The reason that RA3 is not famous at all is because of EA's inconsistent support. RA3 is a solid game and reasonably easy to balance it. The first 6 month after release, RA3 have enjoyed good consistent support from EA. The community thrived.There are some cookie cutter retarded BOs like Allied base crawling or PK spam that EA never bother to fix the problem after 6 months the game release. That pretty much killed the community once EA have stopped supporting it,as the game is still quite far from balanced.

Another thing that SC2 dont have compared to RA3 is, entertaining replays. Most of the best replays i have watched are in RA3.

Maybe i hate SC2 because of the cartoonish WoW inspired art(look at High Templar) and the conservative Koreans trying to make it a SC1 in 3D,rather than the game itself. Just change the damn game a bit.

I would say that RA3 and Generals ZH are the best C&C post-Westwood.

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Added on March 24, 2010, 1:27 pmPeople whine because the game turn out to be far too different from what they have expected.

If EALA actually spend more time to refine C&C4,whining would have not happen. The current game is just terrible. Brainless spamming.

If DoW2 actually still have some base building, whining would have never happen,as every single CoH and DoW1 player always wanted DoW2 to be CoH in space with W40k license back in 2008.

If SC2 was a little more daring in innovating,whining would have stop as some fans doesnt want a 10 year old game's sequel in 3D.

Rubbish games from EA???

Say that to Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age, NFS:Shift, BFBC2, Dead Space, Burnout Paradise, Red Alert 3.

Are those games are rubbish???? I disagree,as EA has improved a lot these 2 years.

The new quantity over quality company is Blizzard's lovely partner,Activision,not EA anymore. I wont say Blizzard isnt affected by the greed of Activision,even though Blizzard is still so called independent.

Expect another CoD and more (Insert musical instruments) Hero game this year

EALA is on the verge of bankruptcy.And EA is no longer the biggest publisher anymore.

Thats why they release a mediocre so-called epic conclusion to C&C. They are closing shop pretty soon,after the huge loss made with Tiberium and bad sales with RA3.

I expect EALA to have same fate as EA Black Box.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Mar 24 2010, 01:27 PM

Hey TS, i got what you mean.

I think i can safely say that this is the same case like how i hate World of Warcraft cuz it ruins MMOs. Thanks to WoW, every MMOs that follows are wow clones.

Blizzard ruins everything.

Very true. RA3 has +9000 crazy ways to win over your opponent. Unlike SC, it is possible in RA3 to make a comeback even after losing most of your units and base. I saw a replay once where this Jap player was left with nothin but a single generator, a shogun battleship and one or two other units, yet managed to come back and destroy his opponent's Allied army and base and winning the game.

Good times.

This post has been edited by mylife4nerzhul: Mar 24 2010, 01:34 PM

Thats not the best.

The best i saw is a game of Allied against Empire.

Both build their bases in the sea. Towards the end,Empire has only a ship yard and he only have like 6 Yari subs,while Allied had like a few structures with one air field in the water too,plus 1 Apollo and 3 Vindicators.

In the last few moments, the Allied send his planes to bomb the Empire ship yard and they Vindicators didnt have enough bombs. The ship yard had only a tiny bit of health,almost died. At the same time,the Empire's Yari subs was wiping out Allied's structure one by one,until the last one.

Guess who win in the end and how?

lol epic win

I don't find it fair to say that starcraft lacks rare comeback, I've watched plenty of games where good micro can turn a terrible situation into a win. You really have play with people to experience the game.

I guess if EA continues to patch RA3 and have good servers like bnet, Id buy a copy of RA3

It has,and i have seen it a few times.

I just need the Beta key to actually play it now.

Sick of watching boring youtube replays.

It's dead now,as EA stopped patching.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Mar 24 2010, 02:30 PM

Thats why there are still so many supporters for blizzard, even after 12 years they still hire a team just to support 1998 starcraft. Thats how committed blizzard is to their fans.

And that's what makes Blizzard king. DII and SC are still getting updates, even if not so frequently. EA is just milking the cash cow. Think Sims 3, the entire C&C/RA franchise and all the other freaking games.

Heck, they bought over Playfish and have you seen the quality of the games now? Its all about profits.

For 10 years old game, the retail price of Starcraft Battlechest has not really drop significantly.

That's probably why.

It's because they are loaded with money.

If they are short of money, i doubt that they are still that generous.

At least EA's past few product's quality has increased a lot and most of them are very good games.

Just that they are still recovering from their past financial problems.

I still wont put Blizzard as the king. There are some short comings in Blizzard.

Well Blizzard was not that wealthy to begin with but it was their support for the fans that gained them their reputation and their wealth. EA was the biggest publisher once but they never even once bothered about their fans, in fact they treat them like milking cows. mooo.

So the point of this thread is that you got into haemorrhage mode because of your failed patching for BC2 and now it is transferred to SC2 ? The thing is your speculation that sc2 is a rts killer is wrong and the only person to be blame is the other rts company for coming up with a product that is not competent to this day standards . If your game is good has new features of game play , something different and unique I can guaranty you it would topple down all kingdoms built by pass kings .

If you saying were true, it did not extend to the fps genre because Modern warfail 2 although with it's great hype and huge recipient of sale was not competent with the current release of Dice BC2 the main thing is if the game is badly made the only person to be blame is the company and not because of the surrounding competitors.

Blizzard become rich after Starcraft and Diablo 2 where it become so popular till it's an e-sport. Then,got even richer with WoW. Therefore they can support all their games. Not like they have 10 or more games.

I wont say EA is the same as 2 years ago since John Ricettello took over.

Mass Effect 2 is the product of all the criticism and praises of the fans/media in Mass Effect 1. Mass Effect 2 have better combat,less tedious MAKO driving and epic world. People were complaining about the horrible MAKO in Mass Effect 1,and Bioware removed it in Mass Effect 2. Go ask any Mass Effect player about their MAKO experience. Most of them hate it. In the end, Mass Effect 2 was great and a big improvement from Mass Effect 1. Memorable stories with memorable characters and good combat. Now,they are going to build Mass Effect 3 on the praises and criticism of Mass Effect 2.

If they gonna milk Mass Effect the way they did with Mass Effect 2,go ahead. I would still buy it as long as it's a good game. At least there are innovations in current EA games,rather than changing just the graphics and add a few new guns/units.

If you havent played a decent EA game(especially from Bioware) in last 2 years,please stop accusing them for milking the fans.

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Added on March 24, 2010, 3:22 pmAlmost everyone in this thread says SC2 is RTS killer. After what happen to MW2,where i used to say it's the FPS killer,i wont put much hope on SC2.Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

I wont put other RTS isnt competent enough to compete with SC2,as most RTS out now are good games but flawed in some way. Other RTS company did not have as much hype as SC2 and the hype a lone can bring a lot of sales,like what happen to MW2 or previous NFS like Carbon despite it's a shitty game.

Activision Blizzard is depending on those franchise that have good previous sales records like CoD,SC,Diablo and Warcraft to earn money. Hype it up,and millions of dollars will flow into their pockets. Once their proven franchise have started to show less sales, they will buck up to improve it. This is the same situation as what happen to EA few years ago,where EA is extremely arrogant.FIFA,Madden, NFS, C&C, MoH, Battlefield all have annual sequels during that time till the quality and sales dropped to abyss only they realise that they have been doing it all wrong. Only then,they started to come out with innovative features and new franchise. It's the same cycle,except different company.

Besides,BFBC2 rocks.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Mar 24 2010, 03:25 PM

I think it should be clear by now why Red Alert 3 failed to live up to its expectation. The potential is there but alas, EA couldn't be patient enough for it to garner enough followings.

my god.
i remember doing this back in ra2 with my harriers against my friend's nuke reactor.

I pretty much still remember that replay's every second.

Very well played.

There are a few more memorable ones,but this one stands out the most by far.