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JinXXX
post Aug 12 2010, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 12 2010, 02:46 PM)
You need market crashing time in order to get this kind of yield.

Just like Axreit was sold at Rm1.00, with >12% yield last time out.

So it is always a trade off.
Want higher yield, only with more risk time.
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wow 1 bux, that cheap.. too bad i went into stocks/REIT late.. else i could be holding tons of REIT stocks
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post Aug 12 2010, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 12 2010, 03:59 PM)
wow 1 bux, that cheap.. too bad i went into stocks/REIT late.. else i could be holding tons of REIT stocks
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Take it from someone who start stock/REIT during that time. You can feel the fear of investing. Everyone was running out of the market & your relatives, friends & neighbours are telling you don't touch stocks.

In hind sight, you can always say that if I had invest during that time, I will be rich. But during the actual time, you are thinking, will it go down another 10% the next day. sweat.gif

Needless to say, I bought but didnt dare buy a lot.
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post Aug 12 2010, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(whizzer @ Aug 12 2010, 04:42 PM)
Take it from someone who start stock/REIT during that time. You can feel the fear of investing. Everyone was running out of the market & your relatives, friends & neighbours are telling you don't touch stocks.

In hind sight, you can always say that if I had invest during that time, I will be rich. But during the actual time, you are thinking, will it go down another 10% the next day.  sweat.gif

Needless to say, I bought but didnt dare buy a lot.
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yeah true.. but then there is a limit abt hw low it can go...

apart from that REIT i dont think can bankrupt.. unlike other normal stocks.. as
its a sort of TRUST FUND...
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 12 2010, 04:44 PM)
yeah true.. but then there is a limit abt hw low it can go...

apart from that REIT i dont think can bankrupt.. unlike other normal stocks.. as
its a sort of TRUST FUND...
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There are risks. Property bubbles popping can bring REITs to its knees especially if they have high gearing.

Googled "REIT Bankruptcy" and got the following links for your reality check brows.gif :-

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/10/business/10mills.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2620633720100426
http://retailtrafficmag.com/features/reit_...cy_threat_0205/
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post Aug 12 2010, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 12 2010, 04:44 PM)
yeah true.. but then there is a limit abt hw low it can go...

apart from that REIT i dont think can bankrupt.. unlike other normal stocks.. as
its a sort of TRUST FUND...
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For overseas reit, it did.
Some reit under high leveraged one, failed to get refinancing, need to fire-sale their properties at the wrong time, and liquidating.

Yes, if reit is low or no leverage, it won't and shouldn't bankrupt, but no reit can perform well without some sort of leverage especially during good time.
Without some leverage, reit may only can give you 3-4% only. You want this kind of yield?

There is a lot of fear when it reached 1.00.
Even I managed to buy some at 1.00 and queued somemore at 0.99, 0.98 etc, I still expected it may go lower than 0.90.

It is easier when look back, but on real time or with it happening in front on your face, and worldwide is crashing, fear of severe recession, deflation, which corporate may close shop etc. so many negative issue around, your "feel" and sentiment is different.

At that time, even convert some Rm to AUD only Rm2.30-2.40.

It is always easier when look back but not the case when it is happening real time.

Just like Axreit now is RM2.05, should buy or sell?
Me also don't know.

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post Aug 12 2010, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 12 2010, 04:55 PM)
It is easier when look back, but on real time or with it happening in front on your face, and worldwide is crashing, fear of severe recession, deflation, which corporate may close shop etc. so many negative issue around, your "feel" and sentiment is different.

Just like Axreit now is RM2.05, should buy or sell?
Me also don't know.
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yeah i know what you mean... i'm trading in something else, that one also can commit suicide at times especially when Greece say wanna pokai ...
and euro went tumbling down like stones...

some say should buy as they are expanding their portfolio, but i read some blog somewhere..
they say need to see the PE ratio, to know its worth...


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There are some REIT's out there with high dividend and low gearing. Further more they are selling at discount to NTA value. So not only highly leverage REIT's is able to give the best yield, but they can give the best growth. brows.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 12 2010, 05:18 PM)
There are some REIT's out there with high dividend and low gearing. Further more they are selling at discount to NTA value. So not only highly leverage REIT's is able to give the best yield, but they can give the best growth.  brows.gif
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so whats on yr portfolio? care to share so at least we know what to pick....
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post Aug 13 2010, 03:38 PM

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Guys, any papers on AXREIT? Haven't seen one for quite some time.

If got, pls post ya!
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:18 PM

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There are two, few pages back.
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:38 PM

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anyone got annual report from stareit? Nothing special on it
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post Aug 13 2010, 06:02 PM

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The  Malaysian REIT Managers Association (MRMA) has proposed a new set of
incentives to enhance the existing tax concessions for real estate investment trusts
(REITs). The current tax concessions will expire next year. It is proposing zero tax for
individual local and foreign investors and 10% flat withholding tax for all investors. The
MRMA also wants to establish a framework to develop the industry and coordinate
investment opportunities and networking in the region. (BT)


hw will the uptake be next year.. since they planning to propose this
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post Aug 13 2010, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 13 2010, 06:02 PM)
hw will the uptake be next year.. since they planning to propose this
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The chance is pretty low.
The reit industry has been lobbying this for years now.

It is very hard to Mreit to compete with SgReit, with the difference between tax rate.
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post Aug 16 2010, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Aug 10 2010, 07:44 PM)
zamans98,

What new comments would you expect for AXREIT? From the past, all the research papers I've seen for AXREIT are about the same hmm.gif
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Jordy, not for me. for my friend - he's a newbie REIT investor. whistling.gif
Me - I only hantam US Stocks.. tongue.gif

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post Aug 16 2010, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 16 2010, 09:22 AM)
Jordy, not for me. for my friend - he's a newbie REIT investor.  whistling.gif
Me - I only hantam US Stocks.. tongue.gif
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how is US stock doing? i was thinking to start US stock too..but still inexperience on that..
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sunreit has settled down a bit
matched another 120 lots
i suggest all of you to take up this offer
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post Aug 16 2010, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(amalthea @ Aug 16 2010, 01:09 PM)
sunreit has settled down a bit
matched another 120 lots
i suggest all of you to take up this offer
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120 lots ? wow thats quite ALOT smile.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Aug 16 2010, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 16 2010, 02:09 PM)
120 lots ? wow thats quite ALOT smile.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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lol if its the old lots (x1000) that's a real big player laugh.gif
if new lots (x100) also quite a player laugh.gif

cant wait for arreit divvy cheque to pop thru my mailbox end of this month! icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 16 2010, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Aug 16 2010, 02:55 PM)
cant wait for arreit divvy cheque to pop thru my mailbox end of this month! icon_idea.gif
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you guys not using the edividend thinggy ?
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Aug 16 2010, 04:03 PM)
you guys not using the edividend thinggy ?
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e-dividend only will be implemented after Sept.

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