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post Jul 16 2010, 05:26 PM

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I sure hope CMMT can drop to 0.90 like cherroy taiko said.
Quite a long way to go man...guess must be after the stabilizing period. sweat.gif

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post Aug 18 2010, 02:39 PM

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Why CMMT yeild so low (6.x% now) but price keeps going up?
The same applies to Axreit. hmm.gif

Besides, QCap drops for lower recent yield. cry.gif

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post Aug 18 2010, 11:45 PM

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For steady income, hektar, arreit?
For growth potential, cmmt, axreit?
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post Aug 29 2010, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Aug 27 2010, 04:15 PM)
got my arreit cheque thru the post! rclxm9.gif
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yeah! me too! rclxm9.gif
my very first reit cheque!
qcap cheque on the way! thumbup.gif

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post Sep 2 2010, 05:26 PM

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Anyone know this SACC Mall in Shah Alam? Arreit's new property. And I've no idea how it is.

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post Sep 2 2010, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Sep 2 2010, 07:57 PM)
the reits structure is such that .. in order to grow you'd need to borrow, or draw cash from issuance of shares. plus since arreit's divvy policy is 95% of profits, then that means they have very little cash on hand to finance property acquisitions.. axreit used to have a high gearing (not sure whether its high now or not) because they had a period where they were just snapping up properties here and there.
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And they still do that now. Watching their share price keeps going up, i hope their yield able to cover that? hmm.gif

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post Sep 2 2010, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(aminius @ Sep 2 2010, 09:32 PM)
The Board of Directors of AmanahRaya-REIT Managers Sdn Bhd, the management company of ARREIT, wishes to announce that ARB, acting as the trustee for KWB, notified that it had on 2 September 2010 entered into a conditional share sale agreement with PKNS to dispose of the Units from KWB to PKNS for a total consideration of RM66,132,212.25 or RM0.95 per unit .

The sale and purchase of the Units shall take effect upon completion of the proposed acquisition by ARREIT, of 3 parcels of leasehold land located in the District of Petaling, Selangor Darul Ehsan together with the buildings erected thereon for a total purchase consideration of RM270,000,000 subject to the terms and conditions of the sale and purchase agreement entered into between CIMB Trustee Berhad, acting as the trustee for ARREIT and PKNS on 2 September 2010.

The Transaction Arranger for the proposed disposal of the Units by KWB to PKNS is Astramina Advisory Sdn Bhd.

This announcement is dated 2 September 2010
ARREIT current price is around RM0.88 rite? need to buy the share tomorrow morning!
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Will the share price shoot up to its diluted NAV of 0.95? This have to consult taikor cherroy. notworthy.gif
I just think after input of new assets, the yield actually drops. So for retail shareholders, shouldn't the share price be dropping instead of upping? hmm.gif


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post Sep 3 2010, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Sep 3 2010, 12:21 AM)
yeah .. i'll monitor it tomorrow see whether can sell at 95 or not, pick it back up when it sinks laugh.gif
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Looks like no stupid people crazy buy this morning so far. Investors are smart nowadays. tongue.gif

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post Sep 3 2010, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 3 2010, 10:50 AM)
thats a good thing right ? you make it sound like a bad thing..

or am i wrong ?
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If the yield drops after injection of new assets, then it's a bad thing.

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post Sep 3 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Sep 3 2010, 04:37 PM)
89 a bit pricey for arreit.
maybe i'll wait for below 85 biggrin.gif
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from maybank's paper on arreit a while ago regarding its yield after inject new assets, the estimated yield changed is -2.2% to 9%.
If they were chun, then the overall yield will be around 8.8% to 9.8%. Consider the worst case scenario, actually still a very good yield.
please correct me if i was wrong. biggrin.gif


Added on September 3, 2010, 10:28 pmRegarding Axreit announcement of oversubscribed for buying its new units in 4.3% discount price, was it only applicable for existing unit holders to compensate for their lose in dilution? If so, does that mean new buyers of Axreit units in the market rugi (since they are no longer applicable for the discount price)?


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post Sep 4 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 3 2010, 11:53 PM)
Because the new properties only come with slight over 7% yield, compared its overall yield of >8%.
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Ya, i realize that. And after reading the Axreit's paper, I also found out that the same case applies to Axreit too. FY10 yield suppose to reach 8%, but because of the expansion(special offer for new tenants 1st year etc) , the yield becomes 7.3%. And the yield will only goes back to 8% for the FY11. But then, I even start to worry what if they have more expansion plans for FY11? Then our yield will remains at 7.x% level. shocking.gif


Added on September 4, 2010, 12:07 am
QUOTE(sharesa @ Sep 4 2010, 12:04 AM)
latest report on Arreit:
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Thank you!! This is what I've been waiting for. rclxms.gif


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post Sep 4 2010, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Sep 4 2010, 12:49 AM)
i always thought that 270m(purchase price of building)  x 7.25% = 19.5m(rental)
then, 19.5m divide by total units of Arreit = yield per unit unsure.gif
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I am not very sure too. But my guess is, for rental return of 7.25% on new assets as compare to current assets' 8.5%, the EPU forecast of FY11 able to get even better earnings by 0.9%-1.3%, is because they didn't declare equivalent amount of new units to purchase the new assets. They partially paid by cash. Therefore, even though the new assets comes with a lower 7.25% rental fees, they still able to give even better yield for FY11.

Anyhow, this is just MBB's opinion, the real figure will have to be announced by Arreit itself if they dare to. laugh.gif


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post Sep 4 2010, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 4 2010, 01:59 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif From the pdf so kindly provided by brother sharesa,  it seems that gross div yield (%) increases with each year until 2012........from 2010 yield at 8.6 to 9.7 in 2012.....for year 2011 it's 9.4...that means are we all getting better dividend with each year?......correct me please [thanks to all].......btw, I am not too good reading these reports. icon_rolleyes.gif
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errr...i believe sharesa is a SHE. tongue.gif

For yield increasing yearly....well, in good condition, yes. However, that just mean if you buy it for current price. If the yield increase, normally the share price will also increase, that makes the future investors' (or if you accumulate more in the future) yield looks thinner. cool.gif

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post Sep 4 2010, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 4 2010, 08:51 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif That means by the look at Arreit future dividend , it seems that at the present price of 88.5 cents it is a worthy buy. thumbup.gif That means start collecting now to hope for a better increase in share price just like Axreit. icon_idea.gif ....that means more money in the bank. laugh.gif
 
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I sure hope Arreit can become the 2nd Axreit, but Axreit's income increases 100% in one year's time (so did their share price)! i doubt Arreit can beat that. laugh.gif
Anyhow, i still like Arreit for now. biggrin.gif

Anyone think current Axreit's expansion plans can possibly increase income messively in near future(again)? hmm.gif

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post Sep 6 2010, 02:45 PM

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Boy Arreit keeps shooing up! Should I buy now in case it really shoot up to 0.95? Or should wait until this period of heat cool down? rclxub.gif

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post Sep 6 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Sep 6 2010, 05:41 PM)
it should cool down gua, probably just hangat hangat tahi ayam / new toiletbowl. tongue.gif
assuming it can give out minimum 7.5 sen this year based on the old amount of share capital, post-dilution should be about 6.1 sen.
6.1 ... translates to about 6.7% gross.. but if add in the new income, maybe can achieve ~7% if price at 90.5 ..

its just my very rough calculation, i hope to sell high at 92-93, and pick up even lower at 83-85 tongue.gif
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you think so? it can go down to 0.83-0.85?
but i was thinking, when looking at cmmt and sunreit, which both give low yield around 6.x-7.x% for current price, still able to keep their price stable if not even moving up further. I mean, after arreit increases capital, this alone seems to attract more investors. hmm.gif



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post Sep 6 2010, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 6 2010, 07:45 PM)
AXREIT seems to be a tool for speculation now. Suddenly 1 lot traded for 2.15 during the first half, which boosted the price to 2.15. At this price, the yield at 7.44% seems to be pricey now. Is there going to be some good news coming out from AXREIT? hmm.gif
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I also interested to know this. I watch its price keeps going upwards. And I also spotted the 1 batang push up today. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 7 2010, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 7 2010, 12:43 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif In my honest opinion, ARREIT will definately go up & not down......yesterday it went up 2 cents......last price is RM0.905.....today much more perhaps or maybe add another 2 cents or more?? hmm.gif
whistling.gif Remember MAYBANK gave the TP at $1.19 JUST A FEW DAYS AGO.....so, waiting to get it back at RM$0.85 is almost a near imposibility.......so let us all be realistic & not have fat hopes. laugh.gif
Cheers to all. wub.gif
icon_rolleyes.gif See what brother whizzer  says.......
rclxm9.gif .......yours truely bought quite alot at what brother whizzer bought too. rclxm9.gif
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Maybank actually only raise 3 cents up from 1.16 to 1.19. However, of the help from cmmt and sunreit's great marketting, reit gains a lot more attentions. Just wondering what could be a stable price for Arreit for now. hmm.gif

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post Sep 7 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 7 2010, 07:18 PM)
AXREIT up another 2 cents to 2.17. I wonder if this interest could be caused by the latest distribution hmm.gif
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fyi, I spotted a 1 batang push at the end of session on yesterday and today around 4:45pm. So, it's kind of a "fake" one, and people blind blind buying the upward price. doh.gif

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post Sep 8 2010, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Sep 7 2010, 11:57 PM)
Well, we won't know who are the ones doing the dirty work, but all is good. If it keeps going up beyond 2.20, I will start selling.
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But i wanna buy below 2.08 vmad.gif


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