Hm.. not only that, anyone noticed the P/E is missing from the online screen or is it just HLeB's? For SUNREIT i understand lar, less than a year old but ARREIT also no P/E?

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U can customize your view by clicking on "Customize Columns", the icon to the left of the calculator (the bar below "Search Stocks").

Hansel, the last i saw this happening (now U see it, now U dont for P/E) was Shell.. and shit happened!

Bro Teehk_Tee, we were pointing to HLeB's screen with 0 (zero) P/E for ARREIT wor

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1362442/+2306&#

bwhahaha - sorry ar bro Teehk_Tee. What U said earlier and above - way WAY over my head now (i need coffee.... zombified).

Aiya bro Gark, i'm a typical kiasi Cina beng mar. All other investments and trades can see P/E - this one buta buta elek, chicken shit lar, especially when this happened to Shell several years back. Floor may be full of feathers

The more info / data, the better heheh

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 25 2011, 08:10 PM

Different platforms, different P/E calculations mar - i aint suicidal.

P/E on the platform's just one of several things i look at. If all else being equal, i'll take the lower P/E thank U very much . Born the day BEFORE YESTERDAY (watashiwa not too bright but a bit brighter than the fellow born yesterday)

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Added on July 26, 2011, 3:08 pmBoss Cherroy - agreed.. unfortunately time's not on my side. Thus, for me most ratios are taken at "book / screen level" only - i process only the historical EPS, PER and ranking them ratios (sounds like brewing a witch's cauldron ) to create a filter list + decide what's the value i'd buy at.

Heheh - my only saving grace is i do check from at least 3 sources/platform + at least 3 years' historical data (if not more), U know them accountants lar - cooking by them, interpreting by them, buta buta come up with more disclosures and weird calcs also by them At least they cant play much with 3 or more continuous years' of data (eg. ROE spikes due to asset liquidation).

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 26 2011, 03:10 PM

Yup yup - P/E's like "last few" stuff as consideration, not the main ones.

Hhehe - U mean the blog on saline drips?
Yeah - SJer, moved there in end 2007, nice place but a bit pricy (food-wise) VS PJ SS3 & Setia Alam.

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 26 2011, 05:38 PM

Whoa.. long one . Yup yup - suicidal lar if solely OR mainly based on PER.

FYI. my main filters are past 3 years (or more) ROE, D/E, Cashflow, Gross Margins, Stockholders' Equity growth rate, Sales growth rate. Then ancillaries are several years' of DPS vs EPS (to see payout ratio vs kept ratio). Finally, if all else "nearly the same" during a particular time segment, i'd take the lower current P/E lor

Both SUNREIT & AXREIT - painful lar if looking for DY% (div paid vs cost paid) .

AXREIT on my filter but so far, DY% wise, TWRREIT, BSDREIT seems to be leading (hehhe - note, i'm vested already in these 2).

Bro Evening - which security firm's nominee account are U using that charges U $5.50 for the dividends ar? Or i missed something and the $5.50 = 10% single-tier tax at AXREIT's side before shooting out the gross dividend to U (via yr nominee a/c)?


This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 28 2011, 10:39 AM

and when there's fear in the market.. crazy disposal.. value investors steps in

Play DY% mar. Price plummets, and enter during fear = good DY% if div paid out doesnt plummet in same % as market price. Boney - U & i + most others here know market's price is not 100% reflective of actual business mar. Thus value hunters will definitely snap them up at certain price points

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 27 2011, 03:12 PM

Wei - heard U making a killing at the other topic

Anyways, why not best of both worlds? Take 5% of yr net worth or portfolio and go trade? Scratches the itch + still controlled risk & growing. I bet U doing this while your slow & steady mountain keeps piling up

That's why gotta use protection (Entry & Exit rules) right? With a plan, U can avoid big injuries that will take U out for good. Minor bumps and scratches can heal easily in time, especially when U are controlling your exposure (sizing) and risk %. Right or right?

Good lord - really? Reverse methodology of warrants & options (leveraged to the hilt)?

Huge capital + low trading fees..in terms of net returns over capital exposed (employed) should be very very thin lor. May be worth the effort & risk if this capital is just a small part of his/her total net worth gua.

When loading up, how to ensure the volume doesnt move market price up and when unloading - how to ensure it doesn't move the market price down (such volume wor)?

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 27 2011, 04:10 PM

Hi Brenda.
Just a thought - big volume throwing at $0.91 means there are buyers also absorbing at $0.91 in volume - we cant have a SELL without a BUY in the market.

Maybe it'll be more evident by watching the price movement with the related volume - note that ARREIT's price have not moved much between $0.905 and $0.91 for umpteenth days

er.. on the dividends.. CHERROY HELP!!

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Added on July 28, 2011, 10:32 amYes, i'm totally wrong. Please do go ahead and spread more fears. Thank you from the bottom of my wallet when the sell-off hits a price which is of value to me

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 28 2011, 10:34 AM

Bro Gark - any URLs or books for me to steal some kungfu on this REITs trading ar? I want to see the logic and work it out on Excel

Thanks Gark. It's similar to my assumptions - thus, i very erm.. not confident looking at the $ exposed Vs % returns. Chicken lar + i'm not the type that "converts" a TRADE into a long term INVESTMENT .
Thinking that there must be a better way if people are doing it.. only Q is whether worth the risk/rewards boh.

Dont worry dude - i always blame my own dumbass when things kablooey. If we blame others, how can we solve the problem?

er... what the heck is "taxable in the hands of unitholders"?!
They aint paying out 90% of their profits thus taxable in the hands of unitholders? if so, dagnabit - my tax's higher than 10% (norm REITs taxed %)


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