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paskal
post Nov 18 2010, 04:11 PM

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wow lots and lots of opinions. this is good, that is no good. that one have this advantage, this one have that advantage. sure gonna make possible adopters turn away from the whole htpc idea.

1. if you want an absolutely fuss free playback platform, GET A DUNE. a htpc ain't for everyone.

2. if you're concerned about 23.976Hz playback and jitter on a htpc, GET A DUNE. no matter what type of graphics card you use, THERE WILL BE JITTER. yes ATi 5XXX card included (not only i3 IGP). and quite possibly any nVidia GC too. a PC uses multiple clock reference unlike a media player that could lock all its clock to a single clock generator. a PC have different clock reference for audio, video, cpu, northbrigde, southbridge and all that crap. and the OS manage everything, usually trying to sync everything to the CPU clock. an impossible feat at best for a software to sync a hardware clock to one another. YOU NEED TO USE RECLOCK.

3. some people won't notice motion jitter. a lot won't. i never noticed it when i was running on my LCD. because LCD just don't have that fast of a response rate. jitter is a dead giveaway after i installed my 50" full hd plasma. and mind you, ATi have a perfect 24p (23.976Hz) refresh rate. even then motion jitter is hugely noticeable on the new screen. refer above for reason.

4. AMD CPU generally have lots more heat dissipation compared to Intel CPU.

5. multicore CPU have even more heat.

6. most decoder can't properly make use of multiple core to decode video. ffdshow used to be one of it. no idea whether it has trickled down to the stable releases. only nightly builds used to have such capability. want low CPU usage (and make use of multiple core to decode) ? use CoreAVC.

7. if core i3 internal graphics processor sucks for you, you could always plug in another GC into it. why yes it's possible. the internal GPU will be disabled.

8. there's no non-IGP equipped core i3 because the IGP is integrated inside the CPU. so there's no i3 mainboard that don't have internal graphics because it's inside the CPU. wait i already said that.

9. DXVA hardware acceleration is implemented in most new GPU architecture. intel IGP, ATI, nVidia all have them. if hardware acc is hugely important for you, it'd be good to know that your choice aren't only limited to nvidia ion.

10. do forget the atom platform if you could pay the electric bill. because not all movies are encoded to allow for DXVA acceleration. you still need pure CPU processing power for some rare occasion. atom don't have that.

can't remember other questions.
but for someone that wants an absolute fuss free playback, i would seriously suggest the DUNE.

and echohesian, the motion deblocking problem with core i3 during DXVA acceleration could be cured by simply using the Microsoft DTD decoder that came with Windows 7. or maybe you could try CoreAVC. not free though. ffdshow still have this deblocking problem on i3. probably have to wait till either ffdshow new version or intel fix it with a new driver. try the ffdshow nightly builds just in case.

p/s: just drove for 6 hours so do forgive the crankiness tongue.gif


Added on November 18, 2010, 4:14 pmshi* i just messed up jitter with judder. not motion jitter, motion judder.

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post Nov 20 2010, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(minimize @ Nov 19 2010, 10:10 PM)
Just buy one la  laugh.gif
Mostly all latest AVR nowdays already have a TrueHD/DTS-HD feature.
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i reckon he said he don't even have speakers for it. probably no HT setup yet.

QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Nov 19 2010, 11:18 PM)
oh Ati 5450 can do 24p stable... tried it loving it!!!!
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noticed any motion judder?
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post Nov 20 2010, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Nov 20 2010, 10:36 AM)
on mkv - nope, on m2ts - nope, not tried bluray yet but I assume it is a nope

it has a additional buffer time which made 24p playback a stable one...
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that's what i thought. initially.
plug the 5450 to a large screen tv, a plasma tv (which generally have higher motion resolution than an LCD/LED LCD) or a projector (preferably DLP) and you'll notice plenty of motion juddering.

i first notice it at A&L Audio (IINM they're running either Optoma HD20 or HD67 can't remember) and straight away i can notice the motion judder on my setup (playback at A&L is a lot smoother). nothing that i do will make it go away. running 3:2 pulldown to 60Hz will reduce it, but won't totally remove the judder (but it also made the motion be too smooth for my preference, like soap opera effect).

thanks to echohesian, i ran ReClock and it goes away. never noticed it before when i was running on an LCD TV.
motion judder are largely more noticeable on bigger screen. more area for the unresolved lines to appear.
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post Nov 20 2010, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Nov 20 2010, 11:30 AM)
i am using 46inch samsung series 9 led tv (Not 3d version) and playback with ati 5770 using 23.976 also using the motion 100hz found on samsung and notice no motion juddering.

Remarks: using 10.6 driver.
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good for you. my eyes seem to notice the judder even at 23.976
or maybe it's just my system hehe
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post Nov 20 2010, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Nov 20 2010, 09:56 PM)
hi bro,

no u cant use dvi to hdmi dongle which u still cant get truehd or dtsma sound from avr, so my suggestion is get from brand like sapphire for ati 5 series which i did for mine that i have hdmi port.
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the link he put is for the sapphire card. SAPPHIRE HD 5570 1GB DDR3 DP
AFAIK, there's usually 2 models of the card, one with VGA, DVI and HDMI and the other model comes with VGA, DVI and Display Port.

the one that you put the link to is the latter. notice the DP in the model name. should point to Display Port.
get one with HDMI and you should be bitstreaming in no time
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post Nov 22 2010, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Nov 22 2010, 12:19 AM)
if you guys are using ReClock, what is the media adaption that you are using? I have tried to set my display freq to 50Hz, AVR input to 50Hz, and if I set the ReClock to 50Hz, it will become green but it will stutter a lot ... if I set to Auto or original refresh rate, it will become yellow but playback not so smooth...
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media adaptation should be left at auto. that's what the manual (and other people are suggesting).
i'm personally using auto.
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post Dec 4 2010, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Dec 2 2010, 01:14 PM)
anyone connected dell zino HD to 40" lcd tv before? will the words appear to be too small on the lcd tv? or need to lower the resolution in dell to show bigger fonts?
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increase the font size or font DPI (or issit lowering the DPI can't remember)

QUOTE(pOlipOng @ Dec 2 2010, 10:25 PM)
how about 40" full hd? will the display be too small to read as well?

im thinking of getting 40" to use with mac mini. what u think?
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i used to run 32" LCD (720p) and sitting 3 meters away. by increasing the font size, it's viewably comfortable. and got a friend running 40" full hd and sits 3.5 meters away. just a simple increase in font size to make bigger.

QUOTE(shuto1 @ Dec 2 2010, 11:16 PM)
Does anyone know how to fix this problem? :-

For some unknown reason, recently, my when I pause my Bluray movies (Read via BDMV folder) on Total Media Theatre 3, the sound (HD) goes to mute. If it's Dolby Digital or DTS, there's no problem, unpause and the sound comes right back up. But for TrueHD and DTS-HD MA, when I pause, I lose the sound after I unpause. I have to change the sound to DTS/DD then back again to whichever HD sound option the BDMV has. THEN only I get back the sound.

Anyone knows why and how to resolve this?

Thanks and appreciate any help.
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1. try updating the audio drivers (or the GC drivers if you're bitstreaming from GC).
2. try updating TMT3 to the latest update (version 3.0.1.1.85)
3. if you're running an ATI card with catalyst >10.6 then patch the TMT3 after update for ATI card.
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post Dec 7 2010, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(chokia @ Dec 6 2010, 03:59 PM)
According to the specs of HD4850, with HDMI adapter you'll be able to get 7.1ch audio

Source: http://www1.sapphiretech.com/cr/products/p...ew.php?gpid=244
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make sure to get an ATI compatible or from ATI (or something like that). i bought the normal off the shelf DVI to HDMI adapter and it doesn't work on my ATI 5 series
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post Dec 13 2010, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 11 2010, 06:12 PM)
What do you mean? ATI5450 is better than Intel Clarkdale?
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i reckon he said clarkdale could beat the dedicated ati 5450.
he must've compared it side by side to have said that. smile.gif
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post Dec 17 2010, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 16 2010, 06:45 PM)
Recently found out bitstreaming hd audio using the ffdshow audio via audio passthru is actually sounds better without using Reclock...
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upsampled hd audio?
i can't seem to diffentiate bitstreaming mode (avr does the decoding) to decoded mode (tmt3 decodes to lpcm and sent to avr). theoritically it should sound the same as tmt3 does the same thing otherwise the avr would be doing.

but upsampled to 96kHz using reclock (tmt3 decodes to LPCM, then passed to ReClock for upsampling), everything sounds much better with much better integration and seemless transition between speakers.

for music i never do any resampling. everything are played at its native 16bit 44.1kHz
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post Dec 18 2010, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 17 2010, 11:53 PM)
Not upsampled audio, it's mainly loseless audio like DTS-MA and TrueHD, to my ears it sounds better without using ReClock...
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try and upsample the lossless to 24/96. set tmt3 to decode to lpcm then reclock to upsample to 96khz.

you do know that ffdshow can't decode dts-ma/truhd right? if you let ffdshow decode the track, it'll only decode the ac3/dts track. explains the loss of quality compared to bitstreaming.
and if reclock just handle the clock sync and still passes the bitstream without decoding, then it shouldn't sound any different with or without reclock.
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post Dec 20 2010, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(stan001 @ Dec 20 2010, 01:13 PM)
Pls be aware the i3 is a "fake" dual core ( it is only 2 thread instead of 2 CPU core, ) the i5 is a real dual core cpu like the Core 2 Duo.
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are you sure it's a single core?
because the intel product page specifically said that it has 2 cores and are capable of handling 4 threads.
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post Dec 21 2010, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(xsi @ Dec 20 2010, 11:56 PM)
is it really stable..? i downloaded last 2 weeks....really buggy...
trying to setup the files...i.e. searching all the data in imdb....get the data...but not displaying properly in the library mode...very sakit hati one..
either i'm that dumb or that xmbc is really buggy..
nevertheless...will be trying the new version...thanks for the info.
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use ember media manager. i use it to manage all my media info. xbmc just read the file information pulled by ember
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post Dec 25 2010, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Fawkes @ Dec 25 2010, 12:29 PM)
Guys, do you think it's worth it to wait until I3 Sandy Bridge is released before buying a new HTPC now?

Is Asus GTS 250 good for a htpc? Got it after sending my old 8800GT for warranty. Or the onboard graphic will be better?
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if i were you, i'd get a cheap used mainboard with CPU. and power supply. things that nobody wants, an older generation architecture. and slap in an ATi HD5450. and waste all the rest of the budget on storage and HT and display.

i bought my Core 2 + mainboard for RM325, Silverstone ST56 (considered as mid high if not high end) for RM150 and ATI HD5450 for RM165.
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post Dec 25 2010, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Fawkes @ Dec 25 2010, 09:04 PM)
I'm lazy to search in garage sale, prefer to just get them from LYP.  sweat.gif Thought of utilizing the GTS250 for HTPC since it's lying around doing nothing. I've upgraded to GTX460 for my desktop.
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then by all means do it. just utilize anything that you have unused. get a dual core CPU from either intel or amd and it'll be powerful enough to decode just about any HD movies. that is if you can't get hardware acceleration to perform correctly.
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post Dec 30 2010, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 30 2010, 12:48 AM)
After tried to play around with XBMC, I think it's much faster than WMC7
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yes it is
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post Jan 1 2011, 06:43 AM

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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Dec 31 2010, 11:25 PM)
hi all sifu..
im need help all ur help urgent...
i already buy HT (due to arrive by sunday)set but right now need sound card (range RM 100-350) for pc use
tomorrow i will go to lowyat...

any advice suggestion welcome

p/s if im in the wrong thread tell me
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does your HT accepts HDMI? any partcular reason that you want a soundcard?
because you could get away with a new graphics card with soundchip integrated in it.
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post Jan 2 2011, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Jan 2 2011, 02:16 AM)
yup have  hdmi slot.. my graphic card is ati 5670..how to connect the graphic cards with the HT system? the hdmi port will go to the amp and the dvi port will connect to the monitor?
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htpc -> ht -> tv
all connections are done using hdmi.
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post Jan 2 2011, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 2 2011, 04:02 PM)
have setup mediabrowser + tmt3 which is working nicely.

would like to ask how to get tmt3 to play BD ISO files?
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have to create a script to mount and lauch tmt3. i reckon there's a few on the net.
or you could extract the content of the iso to a bdmv folder fashion and play from that.

QUOTE(TheWandererX @ Jan 2 2011, 04:48 PM)
For a keyboard designed to be used while lounging on a couch, etc, etc, it's really good. But one quirk, the mouse buttons are above the touchpad, and I have no friggin idea how much the volume is increased/decreased via a long press/short press. But overall, it's really good for its size, simplicity and ease of use.
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other wireless keyboard and mouse are not that cheap also. i'm using logitech mk250 for mine and it costs something like RM90 i think. back then, the cool wireless keyboard and mouse combo like this are not yet available.


Added on January 2, 2011, 11:53 pmspeaking of cool keyboards, you guys might wanna check into this:
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this belkin media pilot integrates a programmable IR remote and a rechargeable wireless keyboard. with mouse buttons integrated into it.

selling for under RM200 in lelong. never used nor researched the effectiveness of it though. but the programmable IR functions does sound interesting.

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post Jan 5 2011, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(TheWandererX @ Jan 5 2011, 06:01 PM)
Why do you want to do so? It's already damn good that we have Daemon Tools so we won't need to waste CDs...

Anyway, I've never come by such an action before. Don't think anybody has created something to do that.
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xbmc plays dvd iso by clicking on it. and as i've said before, there's script available to automate mounting and play for bd.iso

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