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Debarking is actually a very cruel thing to do to a dog. Its a procedure that cuts the dogs vocal cord so they cannot bark, they can make some kind of wheeze. Its illegal in many western countries including UK and Australia, I dont think many vets actually do it here.

Why do you want to debark your dog? Perhaps you could consider training it to bark only once or twice, then stop, and to stop when you tell it to.

don't debark ur dog lar. very pity ler

I have no other choice...

Either I have to give her to someone else, or I have to debark.

I'm working and taking part time degree as well.. and my neighbors had give me final warnings, if they still hearing any barking, they will lodge a report..

I was so down today, I came to no other choices!

Well, if you read about it, even a debarked dog can make noise, it just wont be a very loud and proper bark. If the dog is really determined, he can make a loud WHEEZE WHEEZE sort of sound. Your situation kind of sucks at the moment, but performing a cruel surgery on your dog isnt an option.

Try consider training, or even moving, you might regret it later when you see how unnatural your dog sounds

please dont debark your dog...
poor him/her >.< iam sure there are other options you can make...
i do think debarking a dog is considered a SIN ><
anyway its your choice...iam just posting to help you not to regret later...
and really really hope that you wont debark your dog from the bottom of my heart x.x

I believe the cost of debark would be a ticket to hell. I am sorry, no offense but that is an inhuman thing to do. I would suggest training or professional training rather than debarking.

i think u better giv it away or try to find out the reason why ur dog is barking...

debark a dog is like i take away ur sound and voice from u, u want or not ??

ya...totally agree with ciohbu...if i take away your sound..how would you feel...many ppl say..."NVM LA...JUST A DOG ONLY"...but they have feelings too...for a dog...no matter how you treat them...they will still always love you

but they give their life to you...its on your hand...you are their owner, you have the responsibility...

why she bark?...because she need attention? or your dog bark for no reason?

give the dog away is the best for her rather than debark...

about 250. seapark animal clinic.

eh isn't it they have some ultrasonic anti barking things... maybe u can try that.... switch it on when u r not in...
the dog barking day and nite??? u stay in Condo or Apartment ar???

Some dogs will actually manage to undo the debarking operation of they are constant barkers. If they continue to try and bark directly after surgery they can regrow the vocal chords and have the same volume back.
Although i don't see debarking operation as being as cruel as some other methods (such as shock/spray collars or muzzles that physically affect or limit the dog each time they try to bark causing repeated trauma rather than a one time ordeal) it is a very extreme and painful solution.

Does your dog only bark when you go out? or is he noisy a lot of the time? There are other ways to keep him quiet that are not cruel in any way but can take some time to show any results (they are all training based). You can also discuss your plans with your neighbors to see if they will be willing to wait a while for the training to take effect.

If your dog only barks when you are away it is most likely a sign of separation anxiety which can be cured or at least handled in most cases. In this case you could also put your dog in a doggy day care center while you are out.

However if you are really busy and spend a lot of time away from the house, the kindest thing for your dog might be to find her a new home where there are people around to spend more time with her. Single dog households should be spending at least 2hours a day with their dog in order to keep them happy and mentally healthy.

After further thinking, I think debark her is very cruel, I'm really tired.. I guess I have to start searching for good owner for her better living..

Maybe you would like to reconsider. Maybe debarking is an option for you, but it's not his fault to bark. They bark for their own reason, which sometimes we don't see. Sometime, it their way to catch your attention. Since they dont speak, it's the only way for them to communicate. Maybe another way would be sending him to training school

Do not debark your dog. Damn pity leh. My family just adopted a debarked dog. So pity her, cannot bark. Our other 4 dogs thought she was an alien coz she got no sound. She couldn't tell us she wanna go pee, she couldn't tell us she is hungry, she couldn't even tell us when she is playful. She can bark a very coughing kinda sound, which is so pityful.

You may think it's the right choice to do because you are thinking of keeping your dog. But you put yourself in a dog's point of view. If someone comes and cut's your vocal cords, you can't talk. But then as humans, you can write, learn sign language. Can a dog do that? My new dog cannot communicate with our other dogs. It's sad to see a voiceless dog.

Really glad you reconsidered your decision to debark your dog. My bf's dog was debarked (by a #@!# breeder who put him up for adoption once he outlived his usefulness as a stud) and hearing his hoarse muted attempts at barking is one of the most pitiful things ever. If you really love your dog you will never forgive yourself once you see the effects of the surgery.

If your current lifestyle really doesn't allow for time to train your dog then the least horrible solution would be to rehome her. Do you know the reason she barks? It's important and a responsible thing to do if you rehome her - her adopter needs to know what to expect and anticipate whether he/she can train out the barking. If she's a compulsive barker because she's easily excited then training her to bark and be quiet on command might work, but if she's barking due to separation anxiety other training methods apply.

So just to clarify things a little here as people seem to be getting carried away.
Dogs primarily rely on scent (pheromones) and body language to communicate, not their voice. It would be a lot more traumatic for a human to loose their voice as it is our primary communication method.

A dog (or even group of dogs) left to their ways will not find it any harder to communicate with a dog whether he has a voice or not, if you watch your dogs closely you will also be able to pick up on the body language they use to converse with one another.
However if you 'pity' a dog for any reason, pamper them when you think they are sick or feel sorry for them when something bad happens, the only thing you are teaching them is fear and panic. Your dog looks up to you as a leader and as that leader you should not be phased by anything unless it really is a major life threatening event (meaning its ok to panic and run to your dog if they are about to get run over, but not if they slip slightly and are obviously not seriously hurt).

In this situation, if you make a big deal out of your dog not being able to bark, they (and all the other dogs around) will see it as a big deal. If you act like everything is perfectly normal and nothing has changed, they will all act as if nothing has happened as well.

I don't think the strong feelings people have expressed about debarking in this thread is "getting carried away" at all. From the responses in this thread I'll take a gander that some of us feel strongly about this because as a species that relies so much on vocal communication, it's particularly distressing for us when this channel of communication between our dogs and us is removed. The average dog owner is not an expert on reading canine body language. Where one's dog could previously whimper, howl or bark to indicate anything from distress to pain to plain old boredom, how will a debarked dog tell its owner now if it needs to get a message across? When even an experienced dog handler can get seriously attacked by a vocally intact dog because something conditioned it not to growl in warning before biting - how likely is it that the typical dog owner or even naively clueless puppy will be able to tell a debarked dog that can't growl audibly is about to do some serious damage?

Dogs can get along fine relying on scent and body language with each other - it may be adequate, but it's certainly not ideal. I'd have to disagree with you when you say a dog will not find it any harder to communicate with other dogs whether it has a voice or not. Vocal communication certainly helps - I've seen cluelessly friendly pups get repeatedly nipped by a debarked dog, perhaps they weren't socially experienced enough to read hostile body language and were over-reliant on the growl that never came to warn them! Another case in point: I'm currently fostering a feeble spitz that can't see very well - the alpha dog in my pack makes sure to growl his displeasure when she wanders too near his food bowl - conflict averted. He used to do this with the greedy puppers he coexists with but no longer needed to once they were taught the Stay command lol.

Now on this next point I can't speak for others since I don't know how they actually act in the presence of debarked dogs, but I understand your concern over people visibly demonstrating their distress/pity to their dogs when they can't bark as it's a very human sort of response - I don't do that. My pups which are calm in the face of thunderstorms (one of which had separation anxiety when I first rescued her) were trained based on the behavioural principles you described. All I'm saying is it's a rather sad thing to watch a dog deprived of what should be part of its natural repertoire of behaviours, especially if all other methods haven't been exhausted.

Hmm well, there are definitely fortunate cases where a debarked dog bounces back post-surgery seemingly unaffected by reduced vocalisation. I mean if you're lucky and the dog is none the wiser about being debarked and yaps happily at a much lower volume, great! But if there's an underlying behavioural issue that isn't addressed (i.e. barking due to anxiety/a way to release stress etc.) wouldn't the neurosis worsen if the dog realises barking doesn't get it the attention it used to? It brings to mind an anecdote a psych professor once told me about a really sad case of a debarked dog that started self-injuring (hurling itself against walls etc.) after it realised barking wasn't "effective" anymore.

I do not personally support debarking, but nor do I find it inhumane if it's necessary.

If you decide not to rehome the dog, I suggest you try to work out the reason he's barking before even considering debarking him. If it's seperation anxiety, boredom etc, debarking would not solve the problem at all.

If you tell us more about your situation, we might be able to help you more. Information like below might help explain the reason behind his barking more
1. When does he bark(Is it only when you're away etc)
2. Has it been a recent problem? Or since you got him? If so, since when?
3. How much physical/mental stimulation do you give your dog daily?

How do you actually train a dog to like just bark twice? I've seen a youtube video, and she said let the dog bark twice, then treat her. Wouldn't treating reward the barking, thus encouraging the dog to bark more when it doesn't get its treat after barking twice?

I said "getting carried away" because, as with many such controversial subjects, people were getting on board to 'no debarking' band wagon seemingly without understanding exactly what is involved in the procedure as well as what the alternatives are (shock collars, muzzles etc.). Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but it is important to look at the real facts before deciding how you feel.
Also if you base your feeling on debarking on your own reliance on your vocal chords then you should also be against the practices of spay/nutering as i know most male humans would be mortified at the thought of having their balls removed at the age of 1year old .

So here is a couple of websites i found about the debarking procedure and the arguments for and against:
http://www.squidoo.com/dog-debarking
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-debarking-a-dog.htm - A lot of people's own experiences with debarking
http://information.i-love-dogs.com/dog-articles/dog-miscellaneous/3727-Overview-The-Debarking-Debate.html ://http://information.i-love-dogs.com/...ng-Debate.html ://http://information.i-love-dogs.com/...ng-Debate.html - For/Against debarking arguments



You don't need to be an expert in canine body language. I'm sure all dog owners can tell you when their dog is happy/sad/feeling ill/angry. They might not be able to explain exactly how they know but what they are doing is picking up on their dog's body language, the same way we can tell what a person we know well is feeling when they walk in a room before they say a word.
Also after the debarking process a dog is not completely silent as the name suggests. Generally the noise the dog makes will simply be muted somewhat, if you are in the same room as them you will still be able to hear if they wish to 'talk' to you or alert you of something.



Once again, in the majority of cases there will still be a 'bark' left in the dog, just a muted one. Also if you had a pack that already had a reliance on vocal communication, i would not suggest debarking. However in this case we are discussing a one dog household so such complications wouldn't occur even if for some reason the dog ended up with no voice at all.



How did the owners react towards the dog after it was debarked? Also i would hope that in this case the owner would take the advice of training as i suggested and looking at the underlying causes to resolve the issue once her dog's place in her household was once again safe which seems to be something that wasn't done in the situation your psych prof told you.
On another note: I'm sure there are many cases where debarking has caused some kind of negative effect or another, however there are thousands, maybe millions of cases where not debarking has caused a traumatic relocation for a dog, or being put in a pound and worst case the dog gets put to sleep despite being perfectly healthy, happy, lovable dogs (as with so many who go through the shelter/pounds around the world) except for the fact they bark causing the neighbors/housemates/whoever else complained. I personally believe that having an operation and not being able to bark as loudly before is a far better option than any of these.

All in all i agree that debarking is not an optimal solution in most cases (as i have stated in my previous posts) especially if it is not backed up with continued training efforts (as in a lot of cases dogs can fully reverse the effects within 2 years), i would not suggest any unnecessary surgery due to the risks associated with the surgery itself. I also agree that there are many situations where debarking should not be considered an option such as in a household with an already formed dog pack (although in this case i would hope the owner would be experienced enough in training and handling that excessive barking isn't a problem), also an aggressive dog should never be debarked as this turns it into a silent weapon. However taking the situation we are looking at now, with a one dog household that needs a 'quick fix solution' (although it probably could have been prevented by trying to solve the problem before it came to a final warning), debarking is one option that can help nicholas88, not my preferred option but still one that can be considered and so needs to be looked at with regards to the facts as well as the emotional point of view.

This post has been edited by Divas: Mar 7 2010, 09:11 PM

Like ear cropping and tail docking, unnessary and cruel imo. Unless as a last resort after all options (training) has been exhausted. Never as a first choice

freakfingers12: The method i know of to teach your dog to bark only a couple of times.

1. Teach your dog the command 'speak' or 'bark' by using the command and saying good boy/girl whenever he is barking until he will start barking when he hears the command.

2. Next ask your dog to 'speak' and then after a couple of barks hold their muzzle closed gently (emphasis on the gently) and give a command such as 'enough' or 'stop'. After a few rounds of this give the command 'stop' before reaching for your dogs muzzle to give them an opportunity to respond to the command without your help.

3. Once your dog fully understands both commands you will be able to tell him to start or stop barking whenever you see fit. Also most dogs that get used to hearing the stop command after a couple of barks will start to predict the stop command and stop by themselves and look for a reward (in much the same way a dog who has newly learned a number of commands such as 'down', 'roll over', 'stand', and 'up' will try performing all tricks when asked for just one or sometimes none at all! ).

And there you have it, a dog trained not only to bark once or twice but who can bark and stop barking on command as well.
There are other methods of achieving the same goal, however i personally find this one simple and effective enough.

Please don't debark your dog, you can put it online for adoption,maybe his new owner's neighbor wont as bad as yours...just my 2 cents..
if you really think properly that you want to post for adoption,you can post it on petfinder.com ...animal have feelings too...

just use the ultrasonic bark stop equipment... it is around RM300 and switch on when u are not at home... so sad to hear that...

might as well get a rabbit if you wanna have a dog that doesn't bark..
a dog barks for heaven sake ! that's what they do !
they alert you with their barks!
you can control them..but just don't make them 'NOT' to bark..

i wouldn't call that unneccessary and cruel.

If you can't control the dog's barking, perhaps you should give it away.

It's either that you are not fulfilling the dog's needs or you got a dog that is not trained properly/ disobedient. Do something about it or leave it to someone who will at least try. Don't debark a dog just because you are unable to train your dog. You should at least send it to a professional dog trainer before attempting any surgical procedures.

I don't like this thread. Don't do it. Carried away or not, it's simply not right. Train or give it to someone who can provide a better home.

Please don't even debark your dog. It's so damn cruel and inhumane thing to do.

If you debark her, I'll personally come to you and debark your penis.

I have personally seen a dog that has been debarked. It does not back anymore but HACKS! Only thing is, tons of HACKS sweets will not help it.

Have you tried other less inhumane temporary solution e.g. bark collar - http://www.pet-super-store.com/pet-supplies/bark-collars/

give it a try at least this will only serve as temporary measure until your dog get accustomed that it means no barking.

whatever you do, just do it with the dog's best interest at heart. If u have to debark vs abandon, go for debark and keep the dog forever.

Ideally, u should choose a dog best suit ur lifestlye and living environment. since now it is already too late for that because no one will ever know if a cute puppy will grow up with barking issues, take all measures to keep it with u.

This post has been edited by sangterap: Mar 10 2010, 03:58 PM

I've seen both sides of the argument but those are helpful links for people who have yet to make an informed decision. Comparing debarking to spaying/neutering is a common argument (a favourite of breeders', for obvious reasons) but the logical fallacy is so huge I'm not even sure where to begin. The only things debarking and spaying/neutering really have in common are that both are invasive procedures with physical risks inherent with any surgery; and both are performed in hopes of preventing dogs from being abandoned/euthanised (for debarking, the dog in question; for spaying/neutering, unwanted pups from unfixed dogs).

The problem is when people make the faulty analogy of debarking = cruel therefore spaying/neutering = cruel = if you're against one procedure you should be against the other. If people anthropomorphise dogs when it comes to loss of vocalisation, there is some validity in the distress/concern etc. as the reduced or total inability to communicate vocally can have negative psychological effects on the dog (and also impair the quality of the dog's relationship with the owner if the latter can't read his/her dog's body language well enough). If people anthropomorphise dogs when it comes to spaying/neutering reducing or eliminating sex drive the concern though well-intentioned is unnecessary. The typical human wouldn't be thrilled at the prospect of being surgically sterilised for obvious reasons (the possibility of being able to enjoy recreational sex being the main one) but similar reservations should not apply to dogs as they do not have sex recreationally (otherwise we'd see them going at it all the time instead of only when a female is on heat). Furthermore it's well documented that spaying and neutering dogs can improve behaviour (less aggression and roaming) and shouldn't have negative psychological effects on the dog - the ignorant belief that a fixed dog might be miserable being deprived of its sex drive is simply that - ignorant. (I'm not implying you're unaware of the risks and benefits of spaying/neutering, but simply pointing out the faulty analogy of comparing debarking to spaying/neutering - it's comparing apples and oranges).



Any dog owner who pays enough attention to his dog will be able to tell the gist of the dog's mood by body language, yes. But the fact remains the finer details that a dog can communicate through the vocal medium we're so familiar with will be lost, often unnecessarily so when people make hasty decisions to debark. While the average dog owner can tell from experience his dog's relaxed expression and wagging tail indicates oh my dog is chilling and pretty happy right now, he might not be able to tell immediately if his dog has an internal injury or ailment causing discomfort because audible whimpering isn't there anymore to clue him in. And as I've mentioned previously, in situations where the dog is aggressive some dogs let alone humans won't have a clue without vocal cues.




The owners thought the problem was solved after debarking as they assumed the barking was the problem in itself and not a symptom of something else. So they ended up paying the dog less attention since the barking was no longer a nuisance. Only when the dog started self-injuring did they bother to consult a behavioural specialist. As it turned out, the dog had severe separation anxiety and basically traded in one neurotic behaviour for another to get attention. The owners regretted their irreversible decision and discovered to their irony they had to work harder to understand what their dog wanted since it longer had a full voice. Last I heard the dog was put on medication to help calm it and it's doing better now that the owners actually understand what motivated the previous behaviours.




I agree. Note that I've never said do not debark not matter what - I understand it's natural to assume that might have been what I implied in my first post when I addressed the thread starter. I made an emotional appeal in the hope his love for his dog will affirm his change of mind is the right thing to do at the moment rather than making a hasty decision. Since he mentioned his lifestyle is too busy to realistically involve retraining her and he hasn't explained whether he's aware of the cause of her barking, I think the lesser of the two evils is to rehome her to an attentive owner who is prepared to address the barking issue. If it turns out she simply enjoys barking for the sake of barking (no underlying issues causing the barking) then yes, debarking is the last recourse - preferable to her bouncing from home to home or ending up dumped at a shelter/abandoned. What I'm saying is why risk an operation with possibly irreversible effects that could make her more miserable in the aftermath when other options haven't been explored?

We're mostly on the same page here, except at this point I think debarking shouldn't be considered an option at all - as you say it's a "quick fix solution" (which may not even turn out to be a solution at all!).

Exactly! that's what God designed for Dogs. IMO, debarking is a terrible sin..

Please do not debark your dog. It is VERY CRUEL.

Train ur dog. When ur dog barks excessively, scold them and scare them with a softly rolled newspaper. That is what i always do to my Bishon frise... He actually keeps quiet when i point my fingers at him and say angrily "QUIET!!!! NO BARKING!!!". Then he will sit down with his ears down and sad face.

This post has been edited by jasondotcom: Mar 12 2010, 10:08 AM

That is all i wanted to do, is make more people aware that there are 2 sides to the argument. Even if their decision is to be totally anti-debarking after that, at least they have all the facts first. Also to remove any confusion, i was not implying that you needed to see the sites, it is perfectly obvious that you do know what you are talking about, it was for the benefit of others who will hopefully take the time to do a bit of reading about it.

I know it is a weak argument that when you look at it properly is quite flawed in many ways. However on the surface it does make a good point, as would comparing de-barking to tail docking or ear cropping (which many people see as acceptable and not cruel in any way, but could be seen as so because you are removing a dogs right to wag his tail...).


I'm glad we can agree on some things at least . I never meant to start a huge debate, just simply wanted to air the other side of the argument. I would never push someone to debark their dog if there were other solutions because i am strongly against any kind of surgery that is unnecessary (although i am still on the fence about cropping/docking for puppies as it is such an integral part of a lot of breeds looks, and of course 100% for spaying/neutering due to health benefits and stuff).

The only point i was really trying to make is that people should truly understand what something involves before making a judgment on whether it is wrong or right (again this doesn't include you, you obviously have much experience with dogs and have done the research to know what you are talking about).
For someone with my background and theories on dogs i find it insane that you can go into a forum like this and find people screaming and shouting about how it is so cruel an inhumane to perform a surgery on a dog and then tell someone in the next thread that whacking/beating/hitting with newspaper is THE ONLY training method that works.
I think maybe my views on dogs is just very different to a lot of people in Malaysia still which makes my opinions on what is 'more cruel' also very different .

My 2 jack russells like to bark too esp at night b'cause they sleep outdoor and will bark at anything that moves. We have decided to use muzzle to stop their barkings at night and keep them in cage. The female puppy is quiet but the male puppy still can bark with the muzzle on. We put a cloth on the front of the cage to prevent him looking outside of the house. Since then, the barking is lessen. Maybe u can try this.

Worse come to worse, you can try citronella anti bark collar. This is how the collar functions based on a website i've read "When your dog barks, the collar sprays a mist of citronella scent in front of his nose. Dogs don't like this. The hissing noise startles them and they dislike the citronella smell. Most dogs figure things out very quickly and stop barking. "

I have enquired with the vet and they said this collar can only be purchased online.

I hope you guys realize when you muzzle your dogs to stop barking, they are unable to drink during that duration.

Noted ur concern. However my dogs can still stick out their tongue to drink.

No worries I'm not looking for an argument (hopefully I didn't come across as combative in my previous post as that wasn't my intention), just felt the need to address potential pitfalls of debarking too hastily. (As for cropping/docking I strongly prefer not to have a dog altered if it's purely for cosmetic reasons i.e. to conform to show standards, but if it's for utility purposes i.e. herding/hunting dog at risk of getting its tail stepped on or entangled in bushes I can understand the consideration for docking.)

lol, are you an expat (perhaps from a first world country where there's actual enforcement of animal rights legislation)? My sympathies if that's the case, it can be quite a culture shock as animal rights are pretty much non-existent here and many dog owners still use very outdated ways of training. I won't claim to totally abstain from using physical correction methods as I have found it necessary as an unfortunate last resort (the alpha in my pack is a rescued stray that has a complicated history - long story short, I exhausted all other methods trying to correct his aggression towards people and had to resort to controlled physical punishment as a last gambit which worked - it was either that or send him to a no-kill sanctuary), but yeah I find it disappointing that a lot of dog owners believe hitting a dog is the most effective solution.

Friend.. use bark collar lah.. debark is ur last resort.. u still have other options dont you? Dogs are supposed to bark. A proper trainning will help ur dog. Take time to make ur decision.. make sure its the one that u wont regret.

Yep expat here. But i grew up in asia so it isn't such a shock, just saddening. I understand that people are brought up in different ways with different ideas about what is cruel and what isn't but what frustrates me is when people are supplied with the facts and still don't want to try other solutions. When people come to my shop with a dog that is obviously treated badly, i sit them down and discuss what they do and what would be a better way of getting the results they want (if they will even hang around for 5 minutes to see what the problem is). Only about 25% of the people i have talked to show any kind of improvement in the care of their dog (and those are normally the ones who just don't know what to do, not the ones who actually physically harm/torture their dogs).
So that is why i have resorted to sitting on forums, here people are asking for help so chances are they will actually listen to the advice people give and try out new training methods or food types or whatever else it is
(also the dogs on the forum are far better taken care of than a lot of the ones who stroll into my shop every 6 months for a total shave down which helps keep my spirits up ).

Dogs are not humans, if you ignore the deed of them barking for a treat, they won't do it.

My dog handshakes EVERYTIME he sees a treat. SO, according to your information, does he handshake ALL THE TIME just to get a treat? No, common sense please.

A dog is not a dog if it cannot bark.

Also, if you have no time to take care of your dog, just give him away lor. Imagine if you're not home and something bad *touch wood* happens to him. Who will be there to take care of your dog? Think of the bigger picture here. You might love your dog, but leaving him at home with you ain't enough. Think thoroughly. Debarking is really, really cruel.

Agree, Debarking is NOT NICE! NOT 1 BIT. But i also have the same problem, my terrier bark from 3am to 6am DAILY! NON STOP! Im getting a Anti Back Collar, but not the spray version, THE ZAP VERSION. Truth is, i only scold my dog when he done something bad, such as Digging in the Drain and Barking, What i hate most is, u cant go scold him everytime he barks, especially 3am in the morning, and u r inside and he is outside, Best thing to do is to get the Anti Bark Collar. And i love my dog for everything includes, he eat Pizza and burger, except Barking At Nothing.

You shouldn't feed your dog pizza, burgers or any other human food, especially be aware that dogs commonly have intolerance to onions and garlic both of which are commonly used in a lot of human food. Dogs also commonly develop allergies to corn which is a main ingredient in a lot of bread like products. Dogs are also commonly lactose intolerant, meaning that milk based products can cause them problems,especially later in life when their digestive system is weaker. Finally dogs shouldn't eat products that are fried or use a lot of fat as they have the same issues processing this fat as we do which can lead to obesity problems as well as clogged arteries and heart attacks...
If you don't want to only give your dog kibble, try looking online for some dog safe recipes so you can make a tasty and safe meal for you and your dog.

I cant believe got ppl to say these to me, Especially in a "Debarking" topic. My dog is now 7 Years Old. And almost every month he eat two slice of Pizzas but not the onions(I dont have to take it out). He seems okay and healthy 2 me. Quite playful, very active and a good jumper. And u say Milk Base food is no good? What about Milk Itself? My Dog Drink every night, So, not every dog is the same?

Divas is right. Do a bit of research online and you will find she is not lying or making things up. She is just concerned about your dog, not trying to have a go at you.

Oh waw.. Thx for that.

If you choose to feed your dog things that are bad for them, its your choice, but don't act surprised when you tell people about it on a public forum for pet lovers and someone picks you up on it... Yes all dogs are different, just like all people are different... but dog's digestive tracts are all the same, even if your dog has developed an immunity to the immediate effects of things such as milk and corn, over time they will still wear down your dogs digestive system and lead to more complex problems in later life (a dog's natural life span is estimated at between 15 to 20 years).

Put it this way, I'm a smoker, if someone tells me smoking is bad for me and i turn around and say "I've been smoking for 5 years and i'm still healthy" they would think i was a complete moron who was living in total denial of the fact that i was doing something bad for myself. However if instead i say "I'm aware of the risks and lead an otherwise healthy life, so i'm willing to accept any health related consequences" then i am an informed person who is choosing to do something despite knowing the proven medical risks, its my life and my choice.

If you are aware of the fact that giving junk food to your dog is unhealthy but choose to do it anyway, that's your choice, as long as you are aware of the potential health risks later on in life (heart attack, digestive tract issues, bloat etc) and are willing to bare all responsibility and costs, however arguing that feeding your dog things like milk and junk food isn't potentially bad for their health is just silly, there are many studied done that prove undeniably that they are bad for all dogs and can cause serious health complications (both in the short and long term).

PLS think if u r d dog itself... wat wld u feel if ur owner make ur voice away???

i dunno if u guys believe in reincarnation n karma? i believe in it. Once u do it, next round is ur turn.
So wat ever u trying to do... pls think it on their shoes...

~cheers~

today mpsp come with van full of many worker , u know........

someone report my dog ,

and they climb the steel grill even to count my dog , and write a warning stating only can hv 3.......................

i actually hv think of this , how is the cost and how it is compare to the no bark electric collar

How many dogs do you have?