Game Fest 2
Time : 9am - 6pm
Date : 27 - 28th March
Venue : Dewan Tun Canselor a.k.a Grandhall Multimedia University Cyberjaya

Description of the event:
Good day everyone, Game Fest is going to hit the town again in this coming March! This event is organized by the Multimedia University Game Developers Club for the second time and it will be held from 27th to 28th March 2010.

Game Fest 2 surely will take you further to bring you behind the scenes to see the process of game development, right from the drawing board to the actual conceptualization. It will answer all your questions about game designs and how they are made to thrill. There are sub-events such as Game Development, E-games, Console Games, Board and Card Games, Self-Interest Games (e.g. yoyo, pen spinning, and Rubik cube).


Registration Procedure
Since many of the participants are having doubts and not so sure about the previous registration procedure, we have simplified it to a much simple way:

DotA registration please email to ferdinand636@hotmail.com
CS registration please email to ericseah_rkg@yahoo.com
COD registration please email to espgl.gary@gmail.com


1) Game of your choice:
2) Clan's Name/Team's Name
2) Team Leader's Name and Info (mobile no. & e-mail )
3) Team Member's Name
4) Uni/School or Cybercafes


Board and Card games:



Console games:



Game DeV:



LAN Games:
**Prizes subject to change



Self Interest-Games:




For more information about the event please visit http://www.gamefest.org




For LAN Games Rules and Regulation will be released soon.

This post has been edited by bryan12345: Mar 25 2010, 01:14 PM

3Ds Max Character Design and Modeling Competition


Details:

Criteria: A simple game character.
Prizes: Total Prizes worth RM600 and more !!
Registration Fee: FREE!
Date: 27-03-2010
Venue: Multimedia University Grand Hall

How does this competition run ?
1. Contestant will be given a theme exactly on that day the event run. For example, Human/ Orc / elf.
2. After that, contestants are require to design and model out the character in a t-pose and furthermore render it out on jpeg format.

How are we going to judge your work?
1. The work of the contestant will be judge by their creativity and technical skill of modeling.
2. Our Judges will consist of lecturers from various universities and game development company as well.



Rules and Regulations:




Email: long_5873@hotmail.com or gdc.gamefest@gmail.com

How to register?

Visit our official website, www.gamefest.org or email gdc.gamefest@gmail.com.
You may go to your student affair or student services division if you want to be the representative from your university


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This post has been edited by bryan12345: Mar 1 2010, 12:37 PM

Reserved

congrats on holding it again, hope it goes well as usual. at the same time, can i finally get my 2 year old rm15 refund?

should i lol?
y/n/profit

15 ringgit? what they charged?

actually.
Game fest is only 1 year old.

This post has been edited by vantoria: Feb 25 2010, 03:52 AM

Oh that's quite recent news, the robot made by lego which solved the cube.

Oh well we have our event with not only rubiz cube, there'll be also cup stacking and also dice...( not quite sure this part will have to confirm )

Looking forward to it =)

urm....what is the format for the COD 4 event?

awesomeness....!!!
i wanna join too... i mean its just like gaming heaven

hopefully im free on that particular weekend.. its nice to see gamers in action @@

ESPGL standard.

http://www.espgl.com/

ESPGL will be handling this CoD4 event.

For LAN games. Please contact the correspond person stated at the LAN Games spoiler section. Thankyou

ah my apologies. it feels like two years, when it was actually last year march. i confused convofest with gamefest.

it was for entrance fees for NFS in the Esports 09 tourney, which was then canceled.

not to say anything but..

CONVOFEST'09 is organized by CONVOFEST'09 committee, in collaboration with Students’ Representative Council 2008/2009 and Student Affairs Division, Multimedia University Cyberjaya

Well Convofest is not gamefest. So yeah you can refer to SRC of Cyberjaya MMU about that issue. I myself are not quite sure about that.

convofest and gamefest very different la.. mana ada same.. and btw.. gamefest 2010 is totally made up my gamers for gamers.. so u should bring ur friends to show up over there.. and try get urself into few tournament and well yeah u could win.. ^^

but isn't it run by the MMUGDC all the same?

The Gamefest 2009 (which was when the Esports Tourney was held) was with Kumhon as the head, who said he would refund me. finally nothing happened. Then Eric took over, and they ran Convofest, spoke to him, also said I would get my refund, til now still nothing. And then now we've got Gamefest 2010. still MMUGDC right?

ESPGL is thankful to able to collaborate with GameFest for the CoD4 tournament. Looking forward to the event, sure looks exciting!

What will your comp specs be like during the event, for COD4?

Reserved DotA

This post has been edited by montyz: Feb 25 2010, 05:48 PM

excuse me sir can reserve for quas gaming i pay on the compy day
thank you

reserve for team HMF
Mizuh 0192072989

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Added on February 25, 2010, 7:58 pmreserve for team HMF (dota)
Mizuh 0192072989

This post has been edited by LunLooN: Feb 25 2010, 07:58 PM

You guys really have to start using better computers. Your "classroom" computers are meant for studying, researching etc. NOT gaming.

Dota can la But seriously, do something especially for your 2 FPS games where frames per second really matters.

For DotA registration please send an email to the correspond person with details such as

Team name:
Team member name:
Contact:

Meh I explained a bit.

ConvoFest is like a collection of events. The eSports tourney was one of it and is managed by GDC. You know that the nature of college is that students comes and go. So it's natural that the next iteration of events is handled by totally set of people. The whole club could even contained diff members, so its also possible that the pple in 2010 doesn't know what 2009 did, hutang or whatsoever.

I experience this personally with a tournament in MMU Melaka a while back. I didn't claimed my prizes for quite a while, so when I finally get the hang around of it, the club already run by totally diff set of pple who didn't knew (or was not informed) that the committee of that event still owe me prizes. So, in the end, tak dpt satu sen pun (FFFFFUUUUUU). Ada la mock cheque satu, lol.

So personally, I would suggest you to nudge Eric again as Eric alrdy agree to refund and Kumhon alrdy graduated. Not Convofest pple or this year's pple.

Just moi two cents.

thanks for the heads up chaps. and lol at your unclaimed prize to be honest, i'm not really expecting my money back (though its still annoying considering rm15 will get you an awesome meal at murni ), especially since Eric seems to have forgotten completely, and i too forgot whether or not it was 15 or 30 because we all remember that the NFS tourney was first downsized, then completely dropped, and i dont remember if i paid before or after it was downsized. meh.

generally, one way or another, i don't really have much of a liking anymore towards any MMU tourney, but i still wish them luck anyways. i apologize for the rant post, i know this is not my blog

so Eric, if you're still around here, do me a favour and get back to me. to the current organizers, if you still see Eric around, please pass the message. you have my stomach's and murni's thanks. if not we can all just fly kites.

This post has been edited by strife_personified: Feb 26 2010, 01:27 AM

You should be specific.
You don like the way the people handle the tourney, NOT MMU tourney. Different people handle it differently. This year COD we have game marshal from ESPGL. So I think it's being standardized.
You should give us a chance

This post has been edited by vantoria: Feb 26 2010, 01:28 AM

you have to understand why i'm jaded, because 2 guys have so far let me down. that experience has left a bad taste in me. i agree with you in principle, its not your fault as the organizers this year. that doesnt stop me from being illogical (which is a specialty of humanity)

as for being specific, thats part of the problem, the details seem to be lost right now, on both ends. right now i can tell you beyond a shadow of doubt, that it was gamefest 09. other than that though, i cant remember the amount i paid, which while i would like to say is rm30, i have no proof (i was hoping eddie and then later eric would've helped me figure that out).

finally, me wishing you luck is me giving you a chance la i'm not sitting here praying you guys will fail, i'm hoping you exceed beyond expectations. both yours and mine. for the good of gamerkind. (just for the record, i'm not being sarcastic )

edit: to answer you questions in your sig, so far i'm not able to access the Gamefest site, either through your domain name, or through the mmugdc site.

This post has been edited by strife_personified: Feb 26 2010, 02:09 AM

Peace!
about the website. Contacting the webhosting now. hope can solve it ASAP.
thanks for the info.

Dear Chap, thanks a lot bro for explaining. Always owe you a big gratitude in supporting us thus far.

As for everybody's information, yeap, ConvoFest is actually the collaboration of many events, with many clubs helping us to commemorate for the graduates of each particular year. And definitely, GameFest was held on for the first time last year, with the help of Cyberview Lodge and made Cyberfusion happen.

As for the E-Sports competition last year, which is March 7th and 8th, which apparently doesn't accumulate to even one year for now, was done by GDC personally to find the qualifiers for Cyberfusion.

With regard to what Chapree said, that is definitely true, each and every year, with GDC higher-committees graduated leaving only the new-guns trying their way and probably did not passed down the essential part to continue make the club progress. We realised that discrepancy thus we had build our GameFest team with more new people with guidance from senior members (before they leave). Our goal is to cultivate leadership and not just the passion in gaming. This is an initial step that we are trying to do for this year and to continue pursue and do better each year. And definitely, Chapree truly make a point because not everyone will take the initiative to do something, not talking bout doing the best, but even their own things they couldn't settle properly. And for our club, as Rome is not built in a day, Chapree's note will definitely be well learn and improve.

Thanks Chap!

Ok, I don't get what's about my post but your welcome.

Meanwhile, the burning question here is would you refund that gentlemen? Please dun deprive him of his Murni's meal coz food there is so awesum.

Aight, nuff of this, let's get 'em party started. *school spirit on* MMU represents!

to be quite honest, if the records have been lost to time (which is entirely possible, i was almost in tears when i thought i misplaced my psu receipt and needed it for warranty ), then lets just move on. but definitely not forget, and definitely something to be made a lesson of, so its never repeated, at least in the future of MMUGDC. it would be a pity if issues like this to become a common problem when you guys clearly put a lot of effort into your events and the gaming community.

Oh my, oh my..my dear Strifemare!

Alright, don't worry, Eric is not hiding anywhere or graduating,leaving GDC nowhere. Even if I left GDC, is not hard to find me. Easiest way, go and find Leon from your own Spotgamers team and you can find me. If not, contact TPK and the same thing will happen. Or someone that you supported in this thread, Chap. If that is not possible, you can called up Go Intl., CS1.6 community like Gavin, COD4 community like ESPGL, Blackshot community like team of ATTP, Alex Yin OR simply, contact me back.

I'm sorry to make it this way, but I will treat it as a small misunderstanding again. I'm the advisor of Gamefest 2010 and supposingly not being given a High-Comm post, as I'm suppose to be assisting, guiding and bringing this new potential event organizers of GDC. It is not that I want to break my silence, or ranting, 'Why can't I just retire in peace'. I received calls and SMS-es regarding this lowyat thread and saying there were people looking for me. At first I thought it was some old buddies who want to tell me that they are definitely coming, but will pay me when or sort. But I was surprised to read the posts in the thread whereby I was in Genting that time! Bear with me guys, this is going to be a long reply, and if you check back the Convofest thread that I had last time, the same thing is about to happen. And I will personally apologise first on behalf of GDC team for that lacklustre. This is not something that I want quarrel or argue about, as this is really a small matter. Misunderstandings happen but at some point, everyone has a limit with what they do. And the reason why I have to make this things straight is that, some of the things that mentioned by you, Strife, intentionally or unintentionally, is rather untrue. Also, for the sake of my GDC team, and for my minions to run this event smoothly, let this thread be a good high hits thread, but not something that is small being spilt over everywhere. Although it is bumping, but it kinda de-motivating their next step.


So for everyone, I will make this things really clear and if you have any doubts, you can call or SMS me at 0129350001 or email me at ericseah_rkg@yahoo.com. Alright let me talk for a while now..

ah my apologies. it feels like two years, when it was actually last year march. i confused convofest with gamefest.

it was for entrance fees for NFS in the Esports 09 tourney, which was then canceled.

ConvoFest and GameFest was never near, ConvoFest was during August 09 while GameFest was March 09.


but isn't it run by the MMUGDC all the same?

The Gamefest 2009 (which was when the Esports Tourney was held) was with Kumhon as the head, who said he would refund me. finally nothing happened. Then Eric took over, and they ran Convofest, spoke to him, also said I would get my refund, til now still nothing. And then now we've got Gamefest 2010. still MMUGDC right?

I will make clear a statement in the after the below statement that you made later.

thanks for the heads up chaps. and lol at your unclaimed prize to be honest, i'm not really expecting my money back (though its still annoying considering rm15 will get you an awesome meal at murni ), especially since Eric seems to have forgotten completely, and i too forgot whether or not it was 15 or 30 because we all remember that the NFS tourney was first downsized, then completely dropped, and i dont remember if i paid before or after it was downsized. meh.

generally, one way or another, i don't really have much of a liking anymore towards any MMU tourney, but i still wish them luck anyways. i apologize for the rant post, i know this is not my blog

so Eric, if you're still around here, do me a favour and get back to me. to the current organizers, if you still see Eric around, please pass the message. you have my stomach's and murni's thanks. if not we can all just fly kites[COLOR=purple]

Alright, Strife. First of all, I will definitely admit that I have forgotten the payment during the first time, because you contactd KumHon, my ex-director rather late and he already graduated. Back then, I'm not in the High Comms seats, do not really know who to contact in assisting your problem and GDC is having a transition of new batch of committees, and that's when I took a post there. During the transition period, was then, I met you in DreamHack Winter Malaysian Qualifier organized by Go Intl. in One Utama. We both introduced ourselves and you told me regarding the money. And I wouldn't know you still remember or not, I clearly told you to remind me again as I was busy then on the CS competition and with a lot of organizing stuff to do . Why I can remember that I asked you to remind me? Simply because when I asked do you have my numbers, you said Yes, I have your email and we texted regarding that matter before. And since then, I too, never hear from you. The reason I'm stating this out is that, yes you mentioned that I have forgotten completely, but at the same time, I did my best by asking you to remind me, and you too, forget completely. I'm not pointing finger to say, ok, so this is no longer my fault, that's your fault. NOT MY OR YOUR INTENTION AT ALL. We both just, forget! And the refund is RM15, simply, when KumHon start collecting money, it was already downsized, and with prove, it was in his report for that event.

For the last two lines, I'll talked after the below reply by you.


you have to understand why i'm jaded, because 2 guys have so far let me down. that experience has left a bad taste in me. i agree with you in principle, its not your fault as the organizers this year. that doesnt stop me from being illogical (which is a specialty of humanity)

as for being specific, thats part of the problem, the details seem to be lost right now, on both ends. right now i can tell you beyond a shadow of doubt, that it was gamefest 09. other than that though, i cant remember the amount i paid, which while i would like to say is rm30, i have no proof (i was hoping eddie and then later eric would've helped me figure that out).

finally, me wishing you luck is me giving you a chance la i'm not sitting here praying you guys will fail, i'm hoping you exceed beyond expectations. both yours and mine. for the good of gamerkind. (just for the record, i'm not being sarcastic )

edit: to answer you questions in your sig, so far i'm not able to access the Gamefest site, either through your domain name, or through the mmugdc site.[COLOR=purple]

Dear Strife, I will personally apologise on the remarks that my junior have made. They are working their ass off in their publicity team and not that you were bashing, but as mentioned, they have their spirit pumped up to do their best, but apparently being pulled down by something they didn't do. Just the same thing that happen that KumHon was handling your time during your compy, I'm helping them, but I'm involved in part of the letting you down stuff. Let's put another way Just like you are newly elected as the Spotgamers webmaster, you are farely excited as well, but if someone came running stating your work and saying your work is unprofessional, how will you feel! You can argue, that is parts and parcels of life, but at some point, the way you respond are running too much on your emotion. I believe you just want to know what is all happening and things doesn't turn into your way, and you got flamed up. And you yourself know bout human that, upon getting flame, you flame back, just the same for remarks that was made by my committee.


generally, one way or another, i don't really have much of a liking anymore towards any MMU tourney, but i still wish them luck anyways. i apologize for the rant post, i know this is not my blog
you have to understand why i'm jaded, because 2 guys have so far let me down. that experience has left a bad taste in me. i agree with you in principle, its not your fault as the organizers this year. that doesnt stop me from being illogical (which is a specialty of humanity)

so Eric, if you're still around here, do me a favour and get back to me. to the current organizers, if you still see Eric around, please pass the message. you have my stomach's and murni's thanks. if not we can all just fly kites[COLOR=purple]

This is just the simple reason why this thread heat up! Dude, let me put an excerpt for you. You are running an event, and having the excitement running all over your head, suddenly on the first page and second page of the Lowyat forum thread, somebody commented such things that they do not have much liking anymore towards you or your event. What will you feel? We don't have to talk about logic here bro, let's talk about common-sense first. And you have the self-conscience to say that, yeap, you apologise for ranting and say this is not your blog. And next, you mentioned about feeling jaded, so much so that people have let you down. I know that is your freedom of speech and I won't question your post in what you are doing in the gaming community anyway, but you should know what words are strong and what are not. If you are truly running your logic in commenting, this post won't be that bad after all, but man, your words like 'let me down', 'left a bad taste' and your jargons. And looking for me like I'm a Wanted person. Strife, do accept others flaws as much as yours too. KumHon guided my early pack and it was pass down to me, and I'm just merely helping and as mentioned, did asked you to remind me, and you mentioned as if this two guys is truly running the whole GDC down. And fyi, I wouldn't want to keep using the amount to tease or strike on you, as money is always a sensitive matter, you and I know it very well. But for that amount of money, causing other people's publicity being deter, is that your INTENTION? I believe NOT and I truly know that you are not those kind of people.

Thus, at the end of the day, with your flowery language about those shadow of doubt and all..Dude, is it worth it? And in considering I know you, you can contact me easily, is it worth it? Having to bump this post, but with your post of rather strong constructive criticism(with what I believe doesn't fall on the right timing), is it worth it? And considering having some stupid message-war in this forum thread, with backlashed here and there, is it worth it? In pursuit of the claim, would you think that if you have made that call, or even SMS me upon seeing this thread is up, do you think is better considering this respond.

And for everybody in this committee of GDC we will truly apologise on the mistakes that we make. We are truly amendable as we are human, not robot, to strive better. I, on behalf of GDC will personally apologise to Kamahlaan "Strifemare" Thiagarajan, with regard to the refund problem and for any remarks that caused discomfort to him. Misunderstandings happen way too often and too easy, just that we must try to minimize the apprehending problem with a good solution. And personally, I wish you all the best with your work as a webmaster in Spotgamers.

So PEACE OUT! No more running to chase after me. Also, yeap, before I forgot, Strife, my partner Leon(stormie88) will pass you the RM 15 tomorrow. If you want to talk to me face to face, also, let me know, we can sit down and talked it through. And for others, any problem again, on the previous event, please SMS, call or email me alright! And kindly let my minions work their best in making probably one of their first event a great success.

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Added on February 27, 2010, 5:42 amyeap, RM15 cash on his way tomorrow, sender by Leon, venue, where their team meets!

This post has been edited by ericseah_rkg: Feb 27 2010, 05:42 AM

just to highlight a few points for clarifications sake. when i said i confused the events, i meant it in the context that i saw gamefest 09 and convofest 09 as the same series, meaning gamefest 10 would be no.3, hence the my confusion in thinking that it was already 2 years.

to be quite honest, i don't recall meeting you at the dreamhack qualifier, but i'll take your word for it, it was a rather hectic time in my life so i can't say that my memory was 100%. however, if i took your number, it must've gotten lost, as i definitely did not have it til yesterday when i spoke to TPK.

to continue being honest, lets take it as training for the team then, to have to deal with someone like me. if someone did tell me that my work was unprofessional, unless that person was Jali himself, i really couldnt care less unless they had some constructive criticism. its all about knowing who you're accountable to. in this case, considering they were not directly responsible other than being affiliated with the club, the best response would've been, "hold on mate, we'll check it out and get back to you." may not always work, but its a good start.

right now however i'm not entirely sure if i'm being insulted for my vocabulary, and trying to get my point across clearly without causing any mix up. i hope that was not your intention. there was a lot more that i want to say, but i think there's really no point, because the fact of the matter is: 1. we're both really on the same team 2. its just too damned petty an issue 3. from 1 and 2, the conclusion is its not worth it.

anyways, end of the day, thanks for the refund, just as you had to rant, i'm sure you understood why i had to as well.

haha..to be quite honest as well, I'm one of the CS Marshal and coordinator for Trackmania. If you do not know about the CS Marshal, there are a few that you might know during that event that is Khairul, me and Yea Han. I hope I do help you to recap that moment a little. In addition also, the moment starts when Yea Han and the Trackmania participants is complaining saying why is it all bout CS competition, when it is postpone from Saturday to Sunday. Also, it is definitely a rather hectic time for myself as well, so you do know the discrepancy of our memory right.

Yes, you are right that regarding to care on the note that important people gave you, but your word is face to face. Not in the public place, or at least, some community place like this forum. Yes, you can ask us to care less about what you say, but you know this forum is not just for you and me, bro. And you definitely know what is word of mouth, and put yourself in a shoes that this thing happen, what will you feel and think will happen? You will think the negative side of this event too right. And the same reason that why I'm replying you here, at least to protect team, at some point that people get to know what exactly happen. If it is just between you and me, and in a room for both of us, I believe, I will do the same, I wouldn't care less, pay you the money reported it out and everything is settled. But doing that here simply people will think, 'WTF, they will refund so late and stuff?', thus letting me sitting down in front of my computer to clarify these stuff.

Don't worry, I'm not insulting your vocabulary, it is never close that place my friend. I know you are trying to get the point across and respect your intention to clear up something that is bugging you. We are not trying to insult you or trying to defame in anyway, our simple reason is that your word may mean normal for you, but it may mean something deep and serious for others. Example, for my team that they have to call me up to read such point. In your early post, it is quite normal whereby passer-by who read will think, just some small problem. But the last few posts seems like the case get really off-handed and it may give people the idea that, "Oh my, so serious, 2nd page already got people backlashing". You and I should know what is the deadliest weapon in our life, simply, it is our TONGUE.

Honestly, again and again, GDC or the previous batch of committee did mix up this part of refunding to you, the problem lead to me and later this new team of Gamefest. In fact, the problem is not with me and the new team, as we do not create this problem, and we are trying to settle your problem. And for my sake in this post, yes, my previous director problems lead to my name being use as a letdown and etc. more than it should I believe, I'm not pissed and wouldn't care less, but it is an event that is running now. And I hope you realise, that in my previous post, I wouldn't mind talking about the mistakes that GDC team or I made, and apologise for that. From there, only we solved the problem. If you see clearly, I don't even have to apologise. As I'm merely helping as you and Kumhon, as how you guys ask me to..and I'm not even the Treasurer of GDC and knew the previous Treasurer less to solve the problem. Hope you understand as well.

Yeap, so at the end of the day, again, this is for GDC Team that we are sorry for this small problem and we cleared it up already. And thank you again at some point, at least for the new team to realise this problem may occur. Hope you are enjoying your Murni's meal today and hope to see you soon.

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Added on February 27, 2010, 6:37 pmFor COD4 and CS1.6, no worries is no longer using the LAB. We have talked to ESPGL regarding that and a lot more details can be asked from them. I already came up with plan B regarding this competition as well, so anything else, you guys can ask Gary 'Bliss' Heng from ESPGL. Thanks really a lot ESPGL for all the help.

This post has been edited by ericseah_rkg: Feb 27 2010, 06:37 PM

To all COD4 players, we have a good news for you guys. The winners of the competition will be given products from Sai Tek Cyborg's products, and definitely thanks to NEW ERA for this wonderful prizes.

For Dota and CS Winners too will get the products, as well, but not for all the winners. Only for CHAMPION AND FIRST RUNNER UP.

The products for winners list would not be given out as we haven't finalised the prize of it yet. However, the products that is sponsored by New Era is as such, so hope you guys are revved up for it. Thank you and Thank New Era again.

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/cyborgmouse.htm

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/cyborg5.htm

mr.organizer,utk console tambah la tourney winning eleven..pasti mendapat sambutan

DELETED.

LOL..


This post has been edited by vantoria: Feb 28 2010, 11:12 AM

Well guys, can we get back to main objective of this thread? Which is to get participants joining the competition.

Let's get back to the game shall we?

Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm pun best jgk pe kalau ada tourney

chocobo racing

choboco? lols. there's no final fantasy game for free play.
xD although i wanted to have.

Hurray up. register for LAN games now. DotA CS COD.

Sponsors logo will be uploaded in lowyat forum soon.

got blackshot game ?

reserve 1 slot for team kingsurf..

Reserve 1 slot team AKS (counter-strike 1.6)

reserve one slot for dota =)

This post has been edited by retardnoob: Mar 1 2010, 10:19 PM

i am MMU student
how to register for cs1.6 tournament

would love to come for character design part but will take a week to finish

Eric please make a specific link or steps for people to register instead of Team "ABC" reserved for Dota

You guys better not ask the organizer to extend again ah *ehem ehem*

Reserve for Team Extreme Sphinx.

For mmu student, we will be running a closed CS 1.6 competition after the midterm, so do look out in the bulletin board, or if you still persists to go in straight to this competition, you are more than welcome!

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Added on March 2, 2010, 6:06 pmstill got time, just join us! hehe..thanks

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Added on March 2, 2010, 6:07 pmThanks Gav for your quote! Leon, take note, please make like a registration format to register like last time. Take the last time Convofest template!

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Added on March 2, 2010, 6:29 pmDear all GAMERS who are interested to participates! Kindly take note of the below template and register accordingly.

The procedures goes like this;

Registration Procedure
Since many of the participants are having doubts and not so sure about the previous registration procedure, we have simplified it to a much simple way:

Simply send the following information to the respective key person that was mentioned in the post, namely
ferdinand636@hotmail.com (DOTA)
ericseah_rkg@yahoo.com (CS1.6)
espgl.gary@gmail.com(COD4)

1) Game of your choice
2) Clan's Name/Team's Name
2) Team Leader's Name and Info (mobile no. & e-mail )
3) Team Member's Name
4) Uni/School or Cybercafes


PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THIS! NO RESERVED WILL BE MADE BY RESPONDING IN THIS LOWYAT POST! PROCEDURES THROUGH EMAIL THANK YOU!

This post has been edited by ericseah_rkg: Mar 2 2010, 06:29 PM

what do you mean by the "4) Uni/School or Cybercafes"

As usual, our competition includes players from IPTA/IPTS or even school students, thus, we need the details. If not, if you are an active player you might be playing constantly from a cybercafes, so you can include that as well.

If not, you can just put none there, it is not a specific thing! Thanks

the winning eleven games not many ppl wanna play for tourney ba.. so basically sure no sambutan one.. but u can voice out for the upcomin events form us.. you may voice out in gamefest.org to tell what u want fro us.. take care aguys and happy gamin.. ^^

have FIFA ?

progamers are allowed to join?

i see KS INC and ES there.
Or is it just other people using their team names?

pro gamer is allowed. pls check the Dota format post on the first page.
Further enquiry, pls contact :

LAN Games Manager
Leon
Contact Number : 017-2138813
E-mail Address : ferdinand636@hotmail.com

Priority will be given to those IPTA and IPTS.

Don't worry about losing. Is round robin format.

8 Groups - each group 4 teams. Top 2 from each group will qualify and of cause i try my best to balance out the groups.

You all have chances to play 3 games with 3 different teams. Is totally different from outside tournament. Make this as your opportunity to meet those weaker teams and pro teams. Don't rely on unrealistic banning pro teams tournament. This round robin format decided to be used was because we don't want participant to come from far and just play to for 1 game. We organizer do consider about the players and the quality. In order to help us back, we really hope that no matter any weaker teams, average teams and even elite teams, please register and help us out.

The GameFest team sacrifice their time and putting a lot of effort in order to make the event successful.

This post has been edited by stormie88: Mar 4 2010, 08:36 PM

stormie i understand where you're coming from, but many people are discouraged after seeing these teams join
they are professionals, and as we've seen in SMM Melaka, these people are top players that are regarded as among the best in the world

on the other hand, perhaps you are right, as nubs we should be open to new things and that includes having to play with these teams

however, please consider this:
in group stage, team A managed to break 2 lane racks(or even 1 lane), whereas team B has more kills than team A(let's say leading them by 10 kills). how do you decide the winner?
wouldn't it be better to stick to the good ol' destroying of the throne or concede defeat?

This post has been edited by qinen: Mar 4 2010, 09:45 PM

As for the group qualifier,

If the outcome of the match has not been decided in regulation time (60 minutes), the winner of the match will be decided by Score Count with the following rules.
• 1 Barrack = 5 points
• 1 Tower = 3 points
• 1 Kill = 1 point
• Death does not count


What will actually happen for DotA in next two years, if all of you guys out there are discourage with no banning teams tournaments? Do you want to watch tournament such as public team vs public team? You will purposely go watch this kind of games?

If there are two match replays for you to download and watch, which replay you will download it?

1. ah beng vs ah lian
2. ah beng vs Kingsurf


Besides that, do you think by that time those sponsors willing provide sponsorship anymore for those mega tournament for DotA? They won't. The DotA scene will be very quiet. No more competitive news. No longer you will be hearing stars player such as yamateh, mushi and etc.. news. Do you actually want this to happen?

I'm sure everyone of you here keeping track of what's happening in competitive dota. You guys will visit those esport site such as mym, spotgamers, sgamer and why?

This post has been edited by stormie88: Mar 4 2010, 10:14 PM

i Agree with qinen, most people will be strongly discouraged to register knowing that they will lose at the finals. Its a sure lose thing, what sort of incentive is "You will lose at the finals regardless"

I find that unfair =(
Imagine losing by 1 point.
And your team has taken down mid racks.

Dun just feel scare when you facing top player lolx. Trust yourself you all out there also can do it. Who knows that they might be a new team will win KS during gamefest?

Why badminton world federation never ban world badminton top player like Datuk Lee Chong Wei for match? Try to think it yourself!

I don't mind that.
I'm just stating that people will be discouraged, regardless of what you say.

The 60minutes system is what is really bugging me.
As I've said, losing by 1 point, but having the clear advantage as mid racks have fallen, is that fair?

maybe we will sure lose if we meet a pro
but i think the important one is not winning
but the experience
what an rare experience

Mind to interfere actually.

Let say if players didn't join the tourney where top teams are playing, I was concern about there would be an exodus of top teams in the future, which means, no future talents can be groomed to replace these top teams once they retire.

You might don't see it now, but if this things continues, it would affect DotA scene in the future

Thats because he doesn't go to local small tournaments to catch the small fishes. He goes for big tournaments. Teams like KS have already made a name for themselves and to come and pick on inexperienced teams is just a cheap shot. I'm just saying. I know it will not change the decision of Gamefest. But it is something to consider, pro teams should be playing with other pros. If even small tournaments are giving it to highly experienced teams like "KS" it will be even worst for the DotA community as more players will be lest motivated to go for such tournaments. This will lead to a decline in players interested in competetive DotA

But then again, I'm just saying.

Peace.

the problem is at the moment that if every tournament banned the top teams, then the top teams would have no where to play. I'd think the Gamefest is a relatively large scale event, compared to smaller, more localized cyber cafe tourneys (which do in fact practice ban lists). if you're not looking to face the top teams simply because you think you might loose, then you're probably wasting your time here and should look for more of the smaller local ones.

i do wonder though, does underminer's ranking system for tourneys also accounts for expected skill level of participants? some kind of grade along those lines? that way you might have something where tourneys which have ban lists are limited to a certain grade as a max, and it would make it easier to identify the relative quality of the tourney participants as well.

hii, for the "3Ds Max Character Design and Modeling Competition" part , i got some question

1.if im juz graduate my professional cert only can join ?
2.the character need cut out through UV function and fill color in photoshop?? model must high poly or low poly??
3.time - time ~how many hour will been given ?

correct me if i wrong

Dear Syafiq, this time tak jadi buat. Our budget kekurangan quite alot..so sorry!

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Added on March 5, 2010, 5:15 pmPro-Gamers are allowed to join! No banning because we will be doing our MMU Closed competition, so it will at least seem slightly fairer I hope!

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Added on March 5, 2010, 5:29 pmDear Qinen, I truly know where you are coming from as I'm once a competitive gamer before. And definitely it is true, to know that, when you are playing hard and great even did not make much mistakes, and suddenly you just lose out by one point and were knocked out.

The organizing team is trying to randomise or at least, make it more than just a game for most players. Some players maybe noobs, and imagine paying the amount of money and got knock out in single elimination. However, I do understand the RR format do show some discrepancy, not just in our tourney, but in many others as well. But on the other hand, so far, only RR format had produced some miracles or surprised when players meet up. And comparing single elimination, at least you do diversify the risk of losing out in just a match. This is speaking on behalf of the organizing team.

And speaking on your side, I believe this is part of the interesting process to pick up the unfairness, and bring the game to the next level. After all, you guys got nothing to lose, you guys can come out with new formation, new strategy and shocked the pro-players. Gamers are born to be creative so maybe you guys can make this GameFest a crazy impact to this scene. In fact, even winning the pro 1 match, your clan name is more known than others, because you guys create surprises! This is what we want to see, we saw that unfairness,but couldn't do or help much regarding that. Our competition had always been no-banning unless it is a small compy. Hope you understand and continue supporting us QiNen!

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Added on March 5, 2010, 5:35 pmhi there, thank you for your Interest! And Edvinn (our GameDev Manager) will respond to you shortly!

This post has been edited by ericseah_rkg: Mar 5 2010, 05:35 PM

Sorry to disappoint, but tournaments lesser than what is expected of an open tournament will not be taken into account into the my rankings system. To take those into account requires very complex calculations in where a mix team of certain banned players in 1 tournament and not in the other would be able to win.

I do recognise the existence value of certain "closed" tournaments (colleges,schools tournaments etc) and "amateur" tournaments which provides the recreational / jumpstart point for teams / retired pros to play on once in a while. But when all these tournaments becomes the norm, it translates to an assassination of will of players wanting to become good. A simple quote to sum it all up : "why become good when all I get is a ban on all tournaments that matters?" Teams who thrived in the recent banned-team tournaments consists of former Pros who just skim past the banlist by a narrow margin. So whats next? Make a better list of "more" players to be banned in the future tournaments? This will go on and on and I could predict the winner of a banned team tournament will most certainly be added into the banlist of the next tournament in the not too distant future.

When the general scene stops wanting to become good, the Pro scene will fall and the lust of supporting it will be gone. When being good is punished in the scene by lack of participants and less organizers interest in supporting open tournaments with less teams in it, it translates into the collective failure of the scene to support itself and the beginning of the end of the once great scene we have (though quite young, our scene's achievements are endless and more prestigious compared to other games being played competitively in the history of E-sport here in Malaysia).

Look at the Philippines scene. They once got legendary teams, as good as Zenith at their prime back in 2005-2006 such as Team129, Team Flow and Team Ninja. When the scene starts banning top teams, these teams just die and what happened? Fast forward to 2009, there are 158 teams signed up for the Phil qualifiers of ADC III (Malaysia has 78) and their champion, Team Mineski only managed to placed 7th out of the 10 nations that joint , barely escaping the drop zone of ADCIII. Its sad for them but thats what the scene decided collectively 2 years back to have this fate befall them in International events.


So, what can WE do?

For a participant, just join as many open tournaments as you can. Show everyone that there are teams out there who still want to be good and make a name for themselves in tournaments like this. Especially those teams with sponsor support, there is really no excuse not to be down there duking it out with other sponsored-teams. Your sponsor wants exposure, and your presence with your team jacket at the event (if lucky, perhaps you can score an interview with a local newspaper or TV) and the sponsor's name in the brackets is the REASON the sponsor is sponsoring you for, there is really no other way to see it other than this.

For an organiser, supporting an amateur tournaments once in a while is good and I would say its perfect for the scene to grow. But for every amateur tournament made, make a real open tournament in its place some time in the future. Teams that gained experience in the amateur tournament will most likely want to do well and see how much have they improved in a real tournament where the existing top players will have a chance to test themselves against the young bloods of the scene. Stopping at supporting an amateur tournament will place "amateur" all over the place attached to your brand. When someone walk by your brand, people will point and say something that is linked to your brand. Whether its positive or not totally depends on the events you are supporting.

International media outlets and the pro scene is not interested with a tournament without the stars of the game and rightfully so. The medias in our nations should cease reporting on them no matter how hyped it is. Pay more attention to the remaining open tournaments, give them and their sponsors the best coverage they deserve and show everyone the value of organizing open events so we can expect more to come in the future.

Nobody really cared about the winner of amateur tournaments as they are at best, the best of the worst. There is no glory in winning these kinds of tournaments except for the short term monetary reward you will receive. I could easily predict that winning your next event will score you and anyone associated with your team right inside the banlist. Those tournament winners are not really amateurs anyway. For example. Amz.Viv, the newly crowned champion of Gygabite "Amateur" Tournament. I knew of at least 1 of their members which at his prime, actually slept 4 hours a day and trains Dota for all the hours he was awake for few months consequtively. The reason why other teams lose to them is simple : you do not deserve it because you have not put in the effort they had put in.

We keep on lament on a certain race's Quota system forever but we are now embracing them in the scene. A scene that is protected in this kind of manner will not be able to compete internationally and a scene/team that embraces this kind of protectionism is bound to fail when real competition comes along.

The culture that everyone seems to be promoting now is rewarding failure in the long term. Its a culture to despise but sadly it exists. In a scene where players stop wanting to become the best, everyone will pay the price at some point in the future, including the apparent "winners" of today.

I'm not disputing the group format either.
I think it's great. It lets teams play at least 3 games instead of single elimination.
Furthermore, ES, Quas, KS and INC can duke it out in one group, this is certainly incentive for them to prepare and play well in this tourney.
The only thing is the 60min game rule. That's the only thing I see as unfair. Dota stands for Defense of the Ancients, where players have to defend their ancient and destroy their opponent's one, so why change the meaning of the game at all?

Couldn't have said it better myself, the name of the game speaks for itself and whats a little extra 15minutes for a complete game. It has been the experience of many players both in pub games and competitive games that there is hope until the throne/tree is destroyed. Many a time great come backs have occurred after the 60minutes mark and to create such a rule is just absurd.

And as qinen has said it as true as it could be, the pro teams should be gathered in the same group to eliminate the unnecessary competition among the weaker groups.
this will create incentive for the pro teams to strive harder.

We feel that we'll lose not because they're famous, Its because we didnt dedicate our whole lives to DotA.

Then again,
I'm just saying.
Peace.

Change Team Extream Sphinx to Team Ftz.

I dislike the 60th minute part. Lol. Leon, edit it la. Unfair to farmer =.=

Thats another can of worms you dont want to open. You want the eventual winners to win based on the merit of their skills. Not because they lucked out and had another good team destroy the rest of the competition.

The scenario you're suggesting is basically in the Finals, Team A (Strong/Pro Team) did all the hard work and playing all the tough matches, eliminating other Strong/Pro Teams. Then Team B, the other finalist, got there because they didnt meet any Strong/Pro Teams along the way to the finals and basically got a free ride. Nobody wants to see a blowout tournament now do we?

This is why Strong/Pro Teams are seeded and they usually do not meet another Strong/Pro Team in the early stages of the tournament. Teams are seeded based on the merit of their past achievements. So if amateur teams keep playing amateur tournaments, they'll never progress far in an "open" tournament. The only way to get out of this rut is to start winning so that in other tournaments, you'll get seeded and not meet another Strong/Pro Team right at the start and go home early to fly kites.

Which brings us to the next point, the only way to improve is to play against strong opponents. So yeah, its a vicious cycle in tournaments, but its survival of the fittest/strongest.

I usually dont comment on DotA related topics, but the DotA scene has to get their community mentality right if they expect their game to survive, given the number of 'improved' DotA clones that are coming out of late.

Round of 16 we will see 2 pro teams.(as of now, at the very least) How is this a 'blowout tournament'?

This post has been edited by qinen: Mar 6 2010, 09:44 AM

I'm commenting about the general atmosphere/situation of the DotA scene now, given the recent spat of tourneys outright banning pro teams, not only on this specific tourney.

Then you've probably come to the wrong place?
Here we are pleading the GameFest organizers to take into consideration our suggestions.

This it how it looks like to me:

Just cause you or your team cannot win on your own merit of skill, you try to get the organizers to stack the odds against the Strong/Pro teams?

LOL.

Updates:[SIZE=14]

GROUP QUALIFIER:

1. 60minutes rules REMOVED

**Strictly Reminder**

For any teams that late to sign in during the 1st day, shall be disqualified with immediate effect.


@qinen

I hope that you will register for DotA

Hi Guys, chill chill! The organizers are in the midst of discussion to find the most feasible game plan for you guys. It is a small matter, and I believe Auricom and Qinen, both of you wanted to see the development of e-sports in Malaysia. We will together try to make it happen okay..thanks!

Anyway, Auricom, good luck with your CCI7! hehe..

Thanks for removing the 60min rule.
That was my biggest beef with the group stage.

Auricom you can open a topic elsewhere to discuss whether or not banning pro teams or 'stacking odds' against them is unfair.

And yes, my team is already registered.
Hint: We are HELP students.

This post has been edited by qinen: Mar 6 2010, 01:41 PM

Auricom jia you ^^

Qinen, Thanks for support. Willing to meet you in Gamefest 2010.

OH KHOO MIN JERN! HEHE..sorry to say out your name..but it is really a great pleasure to have you supporting us!

i feel that even if u dedicate your whole lives to DotA u will still lose

a loser will always be a loser

I completely disagree.
But I feel that it is unnecessary to dignify an internet troll with a response of anger/frustration that he expects.