I guess ur snapping on the wrong wire. It's base on how individually view upon other's character.
What i pointed isnt only entirely conservative.

Are you saying that Malaysians cannot be "1st class-minded citizens"? And if we do try we're being hypocrites? And what would you classify as a well-respected discussion?

at a risk of turning this into a political debate, why do you say the people running this country is "close minded"?

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Added on March 5, 2010, 3:39 amMany thought they are, because they are well-educated. I suppose it depend on what type of education they undergo. WE can become 1st class minded citizens, the point is we suppose to have become because we f*** our textbook more than the ah moi. We jump off the building more often than the ah moi because we fail to please our book. WHat our leader is symbolise who we are.

We choose the best for our parliment seat. and the best had been monkey. We dont get that before the election. Or perhaps when u are not under the pressure, u tend to hide your true identity??

Tolerance= hyprocrites + innocent+ A + B + C ....

We don't "tolerate" people who share our views. They're on our side. There's nothing to put up with. Tolerance is reserved for those we think are wrong. This essential element of tolerance--disagreement--has been completely lost in the modern distortion of the concept.

somehow i do felt please to see what going on at parliment, because the fact is that is how it suppose to be. Just that we started it after 50 years of independant.

once an ah moi professor scold the hell out of my fren who are like us (asian), my fren is pissed off that he accuse that professor of being racist. He mention our act to get educated is not an act of to be knowledgeable but somehow an act of cowardness. He tease that we are living in a system which is really safe and yet we are still thinking way to survive and that we the chinese are repeating the history itself of being called Weakman. But one thing he said ring true to me. " We should do something that we passionate for, that's the privilege of having peace in this world. As well a way to understand and express the love of peace. Peace is neither driven by the fear of death nor violent, but fear of living for nothing." He aslo added, "The price one pays for pursuing any profession or calling is an intimate knowledge of its ugly side." Now i finally understand why the ah moi recognize us as 3rd class minded people while most of the chin at australia university out performance the caucasian academically.

Not to said only we are close minded, we are low minded as well. I think that the root of the problem. Low minded> close minded??

I always refer to entire entity of malaysian, it would be wrong if u thinking i am pointing finger on you.

This post has been edited by communist892003: Mar 5 2010, 03:44 AM

Hm.. Since you know it would invite political debates then i wouldn't wana state the point.
You should be more aware of y i categorize it under "close minded" rather then conservative.
Read the newspaper and u'll get an insight on how u term conservative or "close minded" in their very deeds.

What u mention is partially true.
Though chinese still posses leading qualities in thinking. But malaysian and Singaporeans shares the same attitude and moral education. Even though chinese but they are far behind China and Taiwan chinese. Yup to be sad it's on the scale as ignorant. That's y u see "Ang Moh" despising on our pressence. Don't believe ? Check out how the kids in the society compare in China/taiwan and Singapore/Malaysia. Ever seen a kid screaming on top of his voice in public in china/taiwan like a monkey being in the proccess of slaughtering? If it's some rural or kampung place it's hard to blame. But in cities u catch that alot in malaysia/singapore. "We" already regard that as a "common scene" in the society.
I do not believe in being 3rd class minded beings or anything lower then that. I simply regard it as being ignorant.
What your "Ang Moh" Prof see was actually what dated back before the 80s of China/taiwan. Chinese in these country had advance so fast that we cant even believe that malaysian/singaporeans chinese is indeed from the same race. And seriously.. i nv hold on to westerner's words. They are just hypocrites who had an aim to talk u into something else. Of course we do not share passion in learning how to persuade countries to have nuclears and also promotes to sell nuclear to these countries. This is what westerners being doing for years.

This post has been edited by darkskies: Mar 5 2010, 09:13 PM

U anti-westerner?? It was just a conversation....Teasing than telling the truth??

This post has been edited by communist892003: Mar 6 2010, 01:24 AM

Right, narrow it is.
Since a believer already made up their mind, why bother what others says about them, that subject is closed.
Open mined is to open for discussions not to debate on a closed subject, the only thing to defend is power / influence / integrity that could threatens their kind as if being called stupid to follow ancient rules.

Nopes i juz don't believe in them that's all. I'll always weigh and see what they say before finalizing my judgement. I won't just simply think that something that these westerner made "written down" must be fact.
I enjoy mixing my critizing and truth spinning in between. Like having chocolate and lemonade at the same time but not mixing it together and having it at once. I don't tease or joke. I'm a failure in that ^.^

When opening a debate or discussion. U've got to accept the downside or upside of the subject. Everyone is entitled to revive something that had been closed instead of being stagnant to one part of the topic entirely. What i notice is lyn dude usually doesnt tolerate such actions and think it's forbidden and absolute zero tolerance for such grp and call them flammers. This already made whatever open discussion to be close instead of open. It's same as saying given freedom to everyone but with rules. Also same like the flyers floating around in the dustbin mentioning UNLIMITED BROADBAND but with Quota in mini letters.

I wonder if it is the same lyn dude,
It is probably one of the reason I took part in these threads that certain very narrow individuals tends to do that, some are smart & educated which is unfortunate that knowledge is not balanced with experience. They obstruct freedom and will be challenged by not their kind.

i state "open minded" as non believer n alwayz assxxxe others..

The closed minded tends to be a nuisance in a rational discussion and low mentality, make their presence everywhere to fulfill the insecurity in them just because they don't like it. These are shameless people who will not grow up and a burden to the society, while the others continue to make progress in science and contribute towards a civilized living environment.

Usually these people stick to their own kind but others are intrusive and feel ire when others is smarter and talented then them, continue to make a fool of their own kind but then it does fuel the ratings in this forum.

This post has been edited by 3dassets: Mar 10 2010, 09:40 PM

just like you.

Me? I am god to you, so you better behave or I shall turn you into a worm in your next life.

How is the act of trying to gain knowledge an act of cowardice? And how is tolerance related to the questions I was asking? And what does "Tolerance= hyprocrites + innocent+ A + B + C ...." mean? I don't get you because your statements are incoherent.

That is just someone racist ah moi teasing someone with his metaphor. i bet your brain can intrepret it well enough. About tolerance, it was merely an assumption.

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