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communist892003
post Mar 1 2010, 06:02 PM

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U wan to talk about sex? I can either agree or disagree the best posture for having sex. But then, sometimes people who are close-minded are disturb and paranoid by the topic itself. The point is that if you wan to deny the existence of the topic which is sensitive and apparently you havent grow up , is better to back-off than come here whinning about how undeserve and ungrateful are we. I'm seriously wan to apologize of being harsh on what i said, because the fact is that i am so frustrated with some Malaysians. U know what i mean.

Talk about sex= dirty-minded
Question about GOd's capability = Devil
Talk about something deep = U are out of your mind


So be open-minded rclxms.gif


Added on March 1, 2010, 6:05 pmI seriously cant imagine if i talk about Allah in real life with Malay fren. They sure burn my house like they burn your church. LOL. Last time i opened a thread on evolution of God. I think they might feed my body to their kids if they knew my face in real life. Holy moly.
Welcome to 21st centuries.

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post Mar 1 2010, 06:08 PM

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Closed minded people does not respect other people's believe and also do not accept other people's believe, and enforce his/her own believe on others...
Open minded people respect or accept other people's believe, and no not enforce his/her own believe on others

e.g. Topic: Naked beach
Closed minded people will critic the naked beach like hell, and no compromise.. and force their opinion that this is a bad idea
Open minded people will try to understand certain people's view, or accept or compromise with certain conditions that apply to the society

Just my 2cent opinion.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 1 2010, 06:16 PM

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Add one more point, open minded ppl can quarrel like there is a war going on with their mouth but yet still able to be fren after the argument is finish. IS that wrong to influence people with what i thought?? Open minded can disagree with you and tolerate you while close minded would cut your pennis off if they disagree.

Just my 2cent opinion

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post Mar 1 2010, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(communist892003 @ Mar 1 2010, 06:16 PM)
Add one more point, open minded ppl can quarrel like there is a war going on with their mouth but yet still able to be fren after the argument is finish. IS that wrong to influence people with what i thought?? Open minded can disagree with you and tolerate you while close minded would cut your pennis off if they disagree.

Just my 2cent opinion
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Yeah, valid point !!!
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post Mar 1 2010, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(communist892003 @ Mar 1 2010, 06:02 PM)
U wan to talk about sex? I can either agree or disagree the best posture for having sex. But then, sometimes people who are close-minded are disturb and paranoid by the topic itself. The point is that if you wan to deny the existence of the topic which is sensitive and apparently you havent grow up , is better to back-off than come here whinning about how undeserve and ungrateful are we. I'm seriously wan to apologize of being harsh on what i said, because the fact is that i am so frustrated with some Malaysians. U know what i mean.

Talk about sex= dirty-minded
Question about GOd's capability = Devil
Talk about something deep = U are out of your mind
So be open-minded  rclxms.gif


Added on March 1, 2010, 6:05 pmI seriously cant imagine if i talk about Allah in real life with Malay fren. They sure burn my house like they burn your church. LOL. Last time i opened a thread on evolution of God. I think they might feed my body to their kids if they knew my face in real life. Holy moly.
Welcome to 21st centuries.
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Personally I have had religious debates with my muslim friends, and they by no means have shown to feel even the slightest bit threatened. Also a topic of debate might not only have 2 options (agree/disagree), there may be other opinions regarding the topic, so being open-minded is to not blindly shut out others opinions but hear them out.

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post Mar 1 2010, 07:24 PM

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HaHa... communist892003 I think you have grown up since your first landing in this forum, still interested to enforce your philosophy concept to the people here? Now you are talking like one of us. The closed minded feel agitated when others don't agree with their views especially in religion and take it as an insult, the free thinker's intelligence is also insulted by religion and told that god cannot be questioned, as if we are not suppose to know who and what gave birth to us, never question your parents.

There are many intelligent replies but were ignored, I learn and enjoy those contributions that made me addicted to this forum.
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post Mar 1 2010, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Mar 1 2010, 06:08 PM)
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Closed minded people does not respect other people's believe and also do not accept other people's believe, and enforce his/her own believe on others...
Open minded people respect or accept other people's believe, and no not enforce his/her own believe on others

e.g. Topic: Naked beach
Closed minded people will critic the naked beach like hell, and no compromise.. and force their opinion that this is a bad idea
Open minded people will try to understand certain people's view, or accept or compromise with certain conditions that apply to the society

Just my 2cent opinion..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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you are mistaking close/open mindedness with conservative/liberal thinking.
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post Mar 2 2010, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Mesosmagnet @ Mar 1 2010, 08:19 PM)
Personally I have had religious debates with my muslim friends, and they by no means have shown to feel even the slightest bit threatened. Also a topic of debate might not only have 2 options (agree/disagree), there may be other opinions regarding the topic, so being open-minded is to not blindly shut out others opinions but hear them out.
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GOod for you having that argument with civilise religious fren. If u are trying to said the entire entity of Malaysians are open-minded enough to talk about it, then the church and kampung wouldn't being disgrace by some extremists.
THere is two type of argument, whether is a discussion or debate, it is always up to the reader or critics whether to choose which one of it. Agree or disagree. Accept or denying. Most philosophers i could see prefer discussion because they are wise enough to do so and wouldn't self-contradict themselves. But we the malaysian, come on, not all of us are up to the standard to start a truly well-respected discussion, because the fact is that there is still many contradiction, irrationality and misunderstanding going on. If u can always succeeding by starting a discussion, is either u are passive-thinker and courtesy is your priority or the entire discussion group are wise and logic. The truth is stop being a hypocrite, we are nowhere near 1st class-minded citizen. I felt disgusted because it remind me of my dearly government. Let us start from scratch.

DEbate = comparison of facts based on rationality and logic
Discussion = Sharing is caring!!



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Added on March 2, 2010, 3:28 pm
QUOTE(3dassets @ Mar 1 2010, 08:24 PM)
HaHa... communist892003 I think you have grown up since your first landing in this forum, still interested to enforce your philosophy concept to the people here? Now you are talking like one of us. The closed minded feel agitated when others don't agree with their views especially in religion and take it as an insult, the free thinker's intelligence is also insulted by religion and told that god cannot be questioned, as if we are not suppose to know who and what gave birth to us, never question your parents.

There are many intelligent replies but were ignored, I learn and enjoy those contributions that made me addicted to this forum.
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Long way ahead to talk like u guys. I fail my education and i prefer to talk broken english. Additionally, I never even read a book beside textbook, what else to said a book about philosophy. Here i am interested with philosophy and shitting inside here just to be part of it. Because, philosophy save my soul. AMen.
Erk, lai add facebook. Facebook is my only book that i interested.

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post Mar 3 2010, 02:13 PM

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open minded - people who have a lot of experience, kind to accept everything people said and argue with a good point thumbup.gif

close minded - never experience certain things, kind to use his own opinion only without knowing a good reason.
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post Mar 3 2010, 03:04 PM

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1+1=2

1+1=11, Be open minded
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QUOTE(communist892003 @ Mar 3 2010, 03:04 PM)
1+1=2

1+1=11, Be open minded
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Depends on where you use the fomular

Reproduction 1+1=3, 4, 5...

Union 1+1+1+1+1... =1

Love 1+1=1
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post Mar 3 2010, 03:37 PM

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a+b=c

1+1=c

what is a and b? hmm.gif
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post Mar 3 2010, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(kokakopi @ Mar 3 2010, 02:13 PM)
open minded - people who have a lot of experience, kind to accept everything people said and argue with a good point thumbup.gif

close minded - never experience certain things, kind to use his own opinion only without knowing a good reason.
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wonderful, everyone is close minded for everyone will never experience certain things.

at the same time, please define "a lot"
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QUOTE(lin00b @ Mar 3 2010, 04:24 PM)
wonderful, everyone is close minded for everyone will never experience certain things.

at the same time, please define "a lot"
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well... its up to your own definition since this one is subjective...
thats my own and personal view... whistling.gif
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post Mar 4 2010, 09:14 AM

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open minded = people that agree with me.
close minded = people that dont.

you'd be surprised at how uncannily true this is.
Reminds me of a quote from Belgarath the Sorceror by David Eddings
It goes something like this
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I give the benefit of doubt that there are intelligent people in this world, but I prefer the company of people who think like me


Anyway, I do agree with TS that we'll be shutting ourselves off to people whom are labelled as "closed-minded" hence being closed-minded ourselves.

However there are situations where these "closed-minded" people can be just a sore pain in the @ss don't they?
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QUOTE(Sukebe @ Feb 24 2010, 05:05 PM)
Nice video. But I do believe the usage of "open/close-minded" can be more than just for ideas or explanation, though it is more appropriate to use it for these.

[In]Torelance to others are very much related to how open or close-minded you are too. This is what I'm marking.
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Tolerance would be the key to judge someone. As long as you don't go overboard. There's always limit to everything.

QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Mar 1 2010, 03:06 AM)
lin00b,

<< while fact remains fact no matter what, it would be a sad day for science and human when scientist go "think what you will, i'm not going to bother to convince you, i'm right regardless of what you think">>

We are talking about religion here.  So, this has NOTHING to do with science.  For a TRUE BELIEVER, God / Karma/ whatever will affect the person regardless of whether the person believe or not.  And, a person will suffer the consequences of the non-believing.  If a person does not believe that, a person is a NOT a TRUE BELIEVER.

<<lastly, humans are social animals, the desire to be acknowledged and accepted is one of our main drive, >>

For an ENTP like me, I am anti-social.  I do not want to be accepted.  Do not ASSUME all human beings are social animal.

Are you sure that you are an INTP??

<<the desire to be acknowledged and accepted>>

That is NOT a motivation for that kind of personality.  That only works for F.

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True. I like your comment. Simple as ABC, if you believe, you believe. No one can ever change that. You hold to what you think it is true for you.

@communist

Some people are just too sensitive when talking about religion. I for one, would love to share my views on Islam. I guess you met the wrong kind of people to start a discussion with. I can't say much as I don't the know the person you're dealing with. As I myself won't be having all the answers to your questions.
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The title of this thread is : " closed minded back-off " . I think this is rather ridiculous since all closed minded ppl don't realised that they were closed minded. So the real closed minded ppl will also chip into this thread thinking that they were open minded.

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Social aspect wise the "close minded" ones usually triumph over the "open minded".
We already had a pack of "close minded" beings running on top of our country. That's one living example.
Anyway i would nv regard this term without the open inverted commas.
Instead i always categorize them as narrow minded.
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QUOTE(Empathy @ Mar 4 2010, 05:31 PM)
The title of this thread is : " closed minded back-off " . I think this is rather ridiculous since all closed minded ppl don't realised that they were closed minded. So the real closed minded ppl will also chip into this thread thinking that they were open minded.

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It depend on how open and how close are you. Sometimes people felt content even with slighty open door. One thing is true, no one is absolute open-minded. We are human living in an egg shell. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(darkskies @ Mar 4 2010, 04:37 PM)
Social aspect wise the "close minded" ones usually triumph over the "open minded".
We already had a pack of "close minded" beings running on top of our country. That's one living example.
Anyway i would nv regard this term without the open inverted commas.
Instead i always categorize them as narrow minded.
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again you are mistaking conservatives with close-mindedness

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